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    Kickers

    Maybe not a big deal but I do find it funny (not sure that is the correct word) that two ex-Jet kickers (Nugent / Weatherford) both were franchised this week.

    Is that a Westhoff issue, Tannenbaum issue or just random

    Anyway our current K and P are so good probably doesn't matter... :rolleyes:

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    since IMO at least, Folk and Conley are as good or maybe better than those two franchised players, I'd agree with you that it doesn't matter.

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    Can't stand hypocracy because the thread starter probably wanted Nugent gone immediately..

    Secondly, it's never as simple as just "is someone good". In a salary cap league, it comes down money... We have been spending just about the least money as possible at those 2 positions which means we weren't going to keep either of those two guys.

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    The jets and westoff are horrendous when developing and or keeping and or getting very good long term kickers.

    The front office treats the kicking game as a very low priority which is bizarre considering what type of team the jets are. While other teams have 10 year punter/place kickers the jets shuffle them every year or so.

    I think finally this year things may change as westoff was quoted as saying that the kickers at this years combine were some of the best he's seen out of college. With the extra picks we should get this year I'd be shocked if we didn't draft one or the other or both.

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    [QUOTE=OneTime;4385297]Maybe not a big deal but I do find it funny (not sure that is the correct word) that two ex-Jet kickers (Nugent / Weatherford) both were franchised this week.

    Is that a Westhoff issue, Tannenbaum issue or just random

    Anyway our current K and P are so good probably doesn't matter... :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    Weatherford was great in the regular season last year, and completely **** the bed in the playoffs. This was after having heart issues the previous season.
    The Jets made a mistake in cutting him, but there were logical reasons for it.

    Nugent was bad in his final season with the Jets, and was cut by two other teams before joining the Bengals (Bucs, Cardinals).

    Kickers are fickle, and notoriously inconsistent I don't really this reflects on Westhoff, one way or another.

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    [QUOTE=sg3;4385313]since IMO at least, Folk and Conley are as good or maybe better than those two franchised players, I'd agree with you that it doesn't matter.[/QUOTE]

    +1-
    Finally, someone who knows where the Jets' real issues are.

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    [QUOTE=SizzleBear287;4385872]+1-
    Finally, someone who knows where the Jets' real issues are.[/QUOTE]

    Conley is better than Wetherford? Is that a joke? It is okay to admit that another team has a better player than the Jets, even on a Jets forum.

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    as good or better, definitely and none of the four of them are worth a franchise tag

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    Taking into account how the Jets are currently built, a good punter is essential for them and can actually win a game for them. A bad one can lose a game for them.

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    Jay Feely is a free agent, no?

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    speaking of kickers who screwed up royally in Pittsburgh in a conference championship game

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    Bryan Anger, P, California
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 207.
    Projected Round (2011): 5-7.
    3/5/12: Anger is the consensus top-rated punter in the draft. He averaged 44.3 yards per punt in 2011. Anger had 18 punts of 50 or more yards, with 19 punts placed inside the 20. He has a strong and accurate leg. Anger was an All conference punter the past three seasons.

    8/22/11: Bryan Anger enters the season as the top punter in the nation. Last year, he averaged 45.6 yards per punt in 2010. Anger has a strong leg. In his career, he has 54 punts of longer than 50 yards. Anger also has pinned 71 punts inside the 20 and forced a fair catch on 62 punts. He was a first-team All-Pac-10 selection for the second consecutive year in 2011. If Anger stays consistent, he should have a grade that will land him in the draft.

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    Phukin BS, when you can't get first downs and touchdowns your K, and P are important, more important than Westhoff, some one has to help the D.

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    I admire Westoff's track record as a special team coach.... No doubt he takes his job very seriously and clearly is not shy with getting in players faces and holding players accountable.... He has an EGO, like most NFL coaches... I get feeling sometimes that he trys to over coach in certain situations.. I like his return teams slightly over his coverage teams, but think their failure to secure and develop a punter is a bit disappointing. I understand the impact of cap and understand nature on how we can lose a feely and or gain a Folk..

    sometimes u don't get appreciated until you are gone.... westoff last year is 2012... so..

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    [QUOTE=JetsFanatic;4386449]Westhoff wasn't even the coach when Nugent was here. :confused:[/QUOTE]

    what?

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    [QUOTE=jetsman51;4386460]what?[/QUOTE]

    My bad, I was thinking of when Rex came on board in 2009, Westy has been here since Edwards in 2001.

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    well, at least that's been cleared up

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    Anybody else miss Tom Tupa and John Hall? I want to bring in Shawn Powell from FSU as a 7th rounder or UDFA.

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    watched the MN miracle game replay

    and neither Tupa's punts or Captain Hook's FG attempts were all that much to get excited about

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    The difference between a great kicker (Scobee) and a league average kicker (83%/97%) would be worth 7 points over the course of a season to the Jaguars.

    Kickers are kickers. It's not worth getting worked up over which one you have.

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