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  1. #201
    [QUOTE=dickkotite;4416933]lawyers on tv have already said that zimmerman was under no obligation to obey a phone operator. furthermore, cops are constantly telling people what to do when even they have no authority.


    so zimmerman was in the right. even what you posted implies that trey was beating him up.......much different than the medias version where zimmerman just walks up to the "little boy" and shoots him for wearing a hoodie.


    cmon people, its human nature to hate and make judgments and assume the worst but be fair about this. most people dont kill others for no good reason. u have to give the guy the benefit of the doubt here until evidence proves otherwise . all the 911 calls make zimmerman seem very calm and concerned. he does not sound like a maniac at all[/QUOTE]

    This is sort of like finding a kid in your driveway or in front of your house, late at night, with a hoodie on after crime has been rampant.

    He confronted the kid and THAT is the issue. The kid, beat up an armed guy and get shot.


    Can you confront someone, in your neighborhood, that you dont know because they appear suspicious? This was at night, in a neighborhood already experiencing burglary's.

    That to me is the issue now. He clearly was in the right to shoot him IF the kid jumped on top of him as it appears.

  2. #202
    Zimmerman has a police record and has a history of being an untrained vigilante. He created this mess and now it is not feasible for Trey to be defending himself?


    [QUOTE=dickkotite;4416933]lawyers on tv have already said that zimmerman was under no obligation to obey a phone operator. furthermore, cops are constantly telling people what to do when even they have no authority.


    so zimmerman was in the right. even what you posted implies that trey was beating him up.......much different than the medias version where zimmerman just walks up to the "little boy" and shoots him for wearing a hoodie.


    cmon people, its human nature to hate and make judgments and assume the worst but be fair about this. most people dont kill others for no good reason. u have to give the guy the benefit of the doubt here until evidence proves otherwise . all the 911 calls make zimmerman seem very calm and concerned. he does not sound like a maniac at all[/QUOTE]

  3. #203
    sure maybe zimmerman attacked him, in which case he would be wrong. none of us really know. my point, however, is to just say that there is a lot more to this than what we hear on the news. in all fairness, it appears that zimmerman was the one attacked. be fair....

    as far as the "history" of being a vigilante.......i dont know about that. a vigilante is a person who takes the law into their own hands. driving around and watching your community doesnt seem like taking the law in your own hands. neither is verbally asking someone who he/she is and what they are doing. this is all perfectly legal. he has a history of doing it as you say, but he hasnt ever been arrested for it right? so he did nothing unlawful. what about the guardian angels? are they a vigilantee organization? they certainly do the same patrolling, they certainly "say" things to people they suspect or see doing questionable things and they certainly call the cops when needed. The GA's have been around forever now, nobody arrests them and they are socially accepted and in many ways revered. whats the difference?

    as far as the arrest record, that has nothing to do with this case. im not saying zimmerman was an angel, im just saying he is guilty of nothing in this case.dickkotite is the first to say this.....so credit me when the final chapter is written.

  4. #204
    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4416397]Exactly. Sh*thole areas of the country with "lower" crime rates than mean urban areas.

    WTF does Missouri have 3,000 meth lab busts a year compared to NY's 20?

    Because of values. Obama makes people do coke. Christians make people do meth.[/QUOTE]



    Hey, PK, tecnically YOU live in Appalachia. LMAO.
    True that more remote areas are into meth. Unlike Urban areas into coke and heroin. Obama is an urban self admitted coke user.

  5. #205
    Fair enough. If Zimmerman doesn't follow him and/or stays in his car none of this happens at all.


    [QUOTE=dickkotite;4417032]sure maybe zimmerman attacked him, in which case he would be wrong. none of us really know. my point, however, is to just say that there is a lot more to this than what we hear on the news. in all fairness, it appears that zimmerman was the one attacked. be fair....

    as far as the "history" of being a vigilante.......i dont know about that. a vigilante is a person who takes the law into their own hands. driving around and watching your community doesnt seem like taking the law in your own hands. neither is verbally asking someone who he/she is and what they are doing. this is all perfectly legal. he has a history of doing it as you say, but he hasnt ever been arrested for it right? so he did nothing unlawful. what about the guardian angels? are they a vigilantee organization? they certainly do the same patrolling, they certainly "say" things to people they suspect or see doing questionable things and they certainly call the cops when needed. The GA's have been around forever now, nobody arrests them and they are socially accepted and in many ways revered. whats the difference?

    as far as the arrest record, that has nothing to do with this case. im not saying zimmerman was an angel, im just saying he is guilty of nothing in this case.dickkotite is the first to say this.....so credit me when the final chapter is written.[/QUOTE]

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    Poor little Trayvon. All he wanted was a bag of skittles, and now he's dead.

  7. #207
    [QUOTE=cr726;4417222]Fair enough. If Zimmerman doesn't follow him and/or stays in his car none of this happens at all.[/QUOTE]


    If Zimmerman was actually a neighborhood watch captain, he had every right to confront someone not a part of the neighborhood. It was a
    problem area. Apparntly the "innocent little boy" (right) took exception and attacked. Did Zimmerman take it too far? Maybe. But Martin made the more critical error it seems based on reports.
    We also have "Stand your Ground" laws in South Carolina. Good idea.
    BTW, yesterday a 17 year old with dreadlocks was followed by a police officer here in Charleston after reports of a commotion. The "little boy" drew a weapon. The officer (better trained) got off several shots to none. The kid may live. I'm sure our local NAACP will be screaming as usual about profiling and the plight of the poor black youth.

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    Waiting patiently for Obama's comments... :rolleyes:

    The article doesn't say it but John Sanderson is white (they did have his picture on the page).

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    [B]Mississippi State releases more details on Saturday homicide[/B]

    Dispatch Staff Report March 25, 2012 10:37:27 AM

    A student was shot to death at a Mississippi State University residence hall late Saturday night, prompting campus-wide alerts as authorities searched for suspects who fled the scene. The university held a press conference Sunday morning at 10 a.m. to release more details.

    Bill Kibler, vice president of student affairs, stated the victim's name is John Sanderson, age 21, from Madison, MS. Sanderson is a first year student at MSU and transferred there from Holmes Community College.

    The 911 call was placed at 9:54 p.m. Saturday night, and police arrived at Evans Hall within minutes. The shooting occurred in a first floor dorm room.

    Sanderson was transported by ambulance to Oktibbeha County Hospital Regional Medical Center around 10:20 and was declared dead there at around 11:30 p.m.

    Evans Hall, which houses about 300 male students, has security cameras at each entrance. That video footage has been downloaded and turned over to police. Dorm residents have to go through three separate key card entrances before reaching a residence room.

    [B]Three African American male suspects[/B] reportedly fled the scene in a blue Crown Victoria. Authorities believe the suspects fled the campus and probably the city of Starkville. Twenty four students from adjacent rooms were relocated after the shooting primarily to preserve the crime scene. A gun was recovered on campus but authorities did not say where it was found.

    As of mid-day Sunday, no arrests had been made.

    Kibler says the university cannot discuss the motive due to the ongoing investigation.

    University President Mark Keenum announced he believes the shooting was an isolated incident, and there's no indication of any danger to other students; however, university and Starkville residents were cautioned to be aware of an African American male looking for a ride to Jackson.

    Shortly after the shooting, the university began sending a series of text message alerts to students.

    University Police are heading the investigation with the help of Starkville Police, Oktibbeha County Sheriff's Department and Mississippi Highway Patrol.

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4417343]Waiting patiently for Obama's comments... :rolleyes:

    The article doesn't say it but John Sanderson is white (they did have his picture on the page).[/QUOTE]

    [B][FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"]NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE!!!![/FONT][/B]
    TSU (TX Southern U) here in Houston is having a huge protest rally today for Travon.
    This school has a 4% graduation rate, btw. Me thinks they should stay in classroom and try studying a little harder.

  10. #210
    A police officer receiving a radio call and responding is related to this how?


    [QUOTE=palmetto defender;4417313]If Zimmerman was actually a neighborhood watch captain, he had every right to confront someone not a part of the neighborhood. It was a
    problem area. Apparntly the "innocent little boy" (right) took exception and attacked. Did Zimmerman take it too far? Maybe. But Martin made the more critical error it seems based on reports.
    We also have "Stand your Ground" laws in South Carolina. Good idea.
    BTW, yesterday a 17 year old with dreadlocks was followed by a police officer here in Charleston after reports of a commotion. The "little boy" drew a weapon. The officer (better trained) got off several shots to none. The kid may live. I'm sure our local NAACP will be screaming as usual about profiling and the plight of the poor black youth.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4417343]Waiting patiently for Obama's comments... :rolleyes:

    The article doesn't say it but John Sanderson is white (they did have his picture on the page).[/QUOTE]

    Drug deal gone bad.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4417438]Drug deal gone bad.[/QUOTE]

    And you know this how?

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4417419]A police officer receiving a radio call and responding is related to this how?[/QUOTE]




    To be blunt, and as an observor here, another example of a black kid with an attitude. We see quite a bit of it, even though this is a spohisticated city. Lots of 15-19 year old blacks killing. Mostly other black kids. A 18 year old black pizza delivery guy got whacked last week. For what? Not money - for his pizza and chicken wings. And fun according to the two youths - 17&18.
    BTW, don't know too many crackers here. Lots of educated Southern people, even though my K-12 was in the North and I worked there most of my life. Less racism here than in NY/NJ.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4417438]Drug deal gone bad.[/QUOTE]

    I like how you jump to the conclusion that a "white" guy killed a black guy because of racism and the black kid was doing nothing wrong but the white guy killed by 3 blacks had to be a drug deal.

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    [QUOTE=palmetto defender;4417473] Less racism here than in NY/NJ.[/QUOTE]

    Funny you say that, I recall NY being FAR more racist an area than down here in VA tbh. Long Island especially was horribad racist when I grew up there. Down here, it was almost culture shock, because the neighborhoods and schools were not so "self-segregated" due to soci-economic differences and ethnic neighborhoods, as they are/were in Long Island.

    I still remember the rampant racism, for example, levied at Hempstead.

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    [QUOTE=acepepe;4417395][B][FONT="Franklin Gothic Medium"]NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE!!!![/FONT][/B]
    This school has a 4% graduation rate, [/QUOTE]

    Hence the proliferation of gated communities in the US.

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4417489]I like how you jump to the conclusion that a "white" guy killed a black guy because of racism and the black kid was doing nothing wrong but the white guy killed by 3 blacks had to be a drug deal.[/QUOTE]

    LOL, I have never said anything about race.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4417549]LOL, I have never said anything about race.[/QUOTE]

    You have sided with the poor kid in Florida and assumed the white kid in Mississippi was looking for or dealing drugs. You may not have explicitly said anything about race but your comments implied it.

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    [QUOTE=Frequent Flyer;4417544]Hence the proliferation of gated communities in the US.[/QUOTE]

    You better hope you need a job when you get back.

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    [QUOTE=acepepe;4416664]Prove how wrong I am. Chose your closest large city and go for and evening stroll in the hood, then tell me who the "racist" is. Can't be the blacks who WILL rob or murder (or both) your azz, because, after all, only guys that look like me can be racist. As I have stated many times in the past, I will gladly open my facebook page to any of you, than we will see who the "racist" is. I hate lazy, mooching, criminals it doesn't matter what color they are. I also can't stand biased media and condescending, self loathing, guilt ridden (for thing they've not done), excuse making liberals.[/QUOTE]

    You lost me at "Obammy."

    I know plenty of spots where a black kid better not roam either. (Hello, South Boston after the St. Patties Day parade....or didn't you read about that?...oh you didn't read about that? I wonder why.)
    Last edited by FF2; 03-26-2012 at 01:22 PM.

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