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    In the Heartland....

    [QUOTE][url]http://www.newser.com/story/143864/welcome-to-ground-zero-for-americas-pill-poppers.html[/url]

    A tiny coal-mining town of barely 300 people and no supermarket is home to one booming business: pharmacies. In Kermit, West Virginia, two Sav-Rites alone moved 3.2 million doses of hydrocodone in 2006—a tad more than the 97,000 doses the average pharmacy sells in a year, reports Salon. Their customers were pill addicts from all over the Eastern seaboard. Now prosecutors have closed the Sav-Rites, but more "pill mills" are cropping up in a game of Whac-A-Mole against America's biggest drug menace today: prescription medicine.

    Abuse of prescription pain relievers has reportedly soared 430% over the past decade, and it's not just Oxycontin (or "hillbilly heroin") anymore. Today's top pills include the anti-anxiety drug Xanax and opioid painkillers like Loracet, Lortabs, and Vicodin. Kermit became ground zero for pill addicts because its miners, long beset with aches and pains, turned to Oxycontin in the late 1990s. But the addiction has spread: One recovering opioid addict says she hopes to raise her son in nearby Gilbert—nicknamed Pillbert. "Of course," she admits, "nowhere is completely safe."[/QUOTE]

    lolz....

    Small town America. Where it's at.

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4436068]lolz....

    Small town America. Where it's at.[/QUOTE]

    Exactly. Because lord knows we don't have rampant drug problems in big town America. :rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=shakin318;4436072]Exactly. Because lord knows we don't have rampant drug problems in big town America. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

    At least those drugs are normal. People cooking Sudafed in Mountain Dew bottles and setting their double wides on fire while hopped up on Grandpa's back medication??

    America's White Picket Fences. Those things house some serious f*cked up sh*t.

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4436085]At least those drugs are normal. People cooking Sudafed in Mountain Dew bottles and setting their double wides on fire while hopped up on Grandpa's back medication??

    America's White Picket Fences. Those things house some serious f*cked up sh*t.[/QUOTE]

    WOW did you even read your OP? IT is prescription drugs they are taking not meth. They are also selling them to "pill addicts from all over the Eastern seaboard". It isn't like the 300 people in that town took the 2+ million doses of hydrocodone.

    What is a normal drug in your opinion? People all over the world and of every walk of life do drugs. Why do you single out the picturesque idealized American stereotype?

    People like to get drunk and high, there's a news flash. :rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4436068]lolz....

    Small town America. Where it's at.[/QUOTE]

    Nah, It's the cities, like those Western NY power houses like Buffalo.

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ly1uubccl8[/url]

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    [QUOTE=acepepe;4436097]Nah, It's the cities, like those Western NY power houses like Buffalo.

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ly1uubccl8[/url][/QUOTE]

    TRUST ME.... some of the towns where PK lives... jeebus,
    downright scary.

    Western NY, no jobs, high unemployment , high property taxes to support the public employees.

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    [QUOTE=southparkcpa;4436105]TRUST ME.... some of the towns where PK lives... jeebus,
    downright scary.

    Western NY, no jobs, high unemployment , high property taxes to support the public employees.[/QUOTE]

    Just call it "Obama's Model Society."

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    [QUOTE=shakin318;4436113]Just call it "Obama's Model Society."[/QUOTE]

    WESTERN NY..Captured perfectly in this 1994 Paul Newman classic of Bath, NY.

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoU_kJdTDKY&feature=relmfu[/url]

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4436068]lolz....

    Small town America. Where it's at.[/QUOTE]

    Doctors, drug stores and pharma making illegal money? Never.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4436190]Doctors, drug stores and pharma making illegal money? Never.[/QUOTE]

    How do you indite pharma on this one? I can see doctors and drug stores but what is your point really? Did someone say that those industries are squeaky clean?

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4436207]How do you indite pharma on this one? I can see doctors and drug stores but what is your point really? Did someone say that those industries are squeaky clean?[/QUOTE]

    They are making more money because of this correct?

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4436220]They are making more money because of this correct?[/QUOTE]

    Sure but they aren't pushing the illegal sales. Do you expect the pharma industry to police the drug stores? That is like holding Smith and Wesson responsible for the Trayvon shooting.

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4436225]Sure but they aren't pushing the illegal sales. Do you expect the pharma industry to police the drug stores? That is like holding Smith and Wesson responsible for the Trayvon shooting.[/QUOTE]

    They have a responsibility to monitor where their Drugs are being shipped. For example if the state of Florida is prescribing more Oxy than the rest of the states combined, they can't turn a blind eye on the abuse of their drug.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4436232]They have a responsibility to monitor where their Drugs are being shipped. For example if the state of Florida is prescribing more Oxy than the rest of the states combined, they can't turn a blind eye on the abuse of their drug.[/QUOTE]

    We aren't talking about a single drug company here. Hydrocodone isn't a brand it is a chemical that is blended into many other drugs that are also available as generics so it is very likely that there wasn't a huge blip on the radar of any particular drug company.

    Then again the drug stores were caught, closed and prosecuted. I don't think there is an easy answer to people's addictions. As the article states when you cut off one supplier another will take its place and as I assume you know if you take the "legal" suppliers away illegal ones or home grown drugs will take their place as was seen during the prohibition.

    What is the actual argument here and what is the solution?

    [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocodone[/url]
    [QUOTE]Hydrocodone and compounds containing it are marketed, in varying forms, under a number of trademarks, including Anexsia, Biocodone, Damason-P, Dicodid, Duodin, Hycet, Hycodan (or, generically, Hydromet), Hycomine, Hydrococet, Hydrokon, Hydrovo, Kolikodol, Lorcet, Lortab, Mercodinone, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norco_%28medication%29"]Norco[/URL], Norgan, Novahistex, Orthoxycol, Panacet, Symtan, Synkonin, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicodin"]Vicodin[/URL], Xodol and Zydone. Hycodan was the original trade name.[/QUOTE]

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    I used Oxy as an example. Here's another [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/04/business/glaxo-to-pay-3-billion-in-avandia-settlement.html[/url]



    [QUOTE=Trades;4436239]We aren't talking about a single drug company here. Hydrocodone isn't a brand it is a chemical that is blended into many other drugs that are also available as generics so it is very likely that there wasn't a huge blip on the radar of any particular drug company.

    Then again the drug stores were caught, closed and prosecuted. I don't think there is an easy answer to people's addictions. As the article states when you cut off one supplier another will take its place and as I assume you know if you take the "legal" suppliers away illegal ones or home grown drugs will take their place as was seen during the prohibition.

    What is the actual argument here and what is the solution?

    [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocodone[/url][/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4436243]I used Oxy as an example. Here's another [URL]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/04/business/glaxo-to-pay-3-billion-in-avandia-settlement.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

    Thanks for the article that proves the system works as is.

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4436245]Thanks for the article that proves the system works as is.[/QUOTE]

    And big Pharma has benefited from the illegal sales.

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4436085]At least those drugs are normal. People cooking Sudafed in Mountain Dew bottles and setting their double wides on fire while hopped up on Grandpa's back medication??

    America's White Picket Fences. Those things house some serious f*cked up sh*t.[/QUOTE]

    Do people usually erect white picket fences around their double-wides?

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4436232]They have a responsibility to monitor where their Drugs are being shipped[/QUOTE]

    Does the DOJ have a responsibility to monitor where their guns are being shipped?

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    [QUOTE=shakin318;4436264]Does the DOJ have a responsibility to monitor where their guns are being shipped?[/QUOTE]

    Feel free to start a new thread.

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