Hmmm, wonder why you seem to have ignored this:
OF Sanchez's pass attempts this year, 65.86% of then ranged from behind the Los to 10 yards from the LoS. For Tebow, that number was 47.91%.
OF Sanchez's pass attempts this year, 90.72% of then ranged from behind the Los to 20 yards from the LoS. For Tebow, that number was 78.33%.
Think that might have something to do with differences in comp %?
Might come as a huge shock to you, but screen/dump off passes behind the LoS or just over the LoS have a much higher completion percentage. I.e. QBs who have a higher percentage of those in their passing mix will have a higher completion %.
Hell, even John Elway understood this and said so at the press conference at the end of the season.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Tebow is super accurate, he's not. But, a lot of it is a perception issue due to the fact that when he misses, he really, really misses.
Some here would say that's awful, I wouldn't go that far for a third year QB, but it's not great, certainly not nearly adequate going forward.
In Tebow's career--16 starts--one full NFL season--he's only had ONE GAME where he completed a higher % of passes than Sanchez's career average and that was on 10-15 (66.7%).
So Sanchez sucks for his career, but there is somehow a reason to explain away Tebow's inaccuracy?
No agenda there--that's just statistics, right?
Convince yourself all you want that Tebow is MORE accurate than his stats would lead you to believe and that Sanchez is LESS accurate than HIS stats would lead you to believe. Sanchez had MORE drops than Tebow and Orton combined and Tebow didn't have ALL those drops--some were Orton's.
Tebow does not make any of the throws Sanchez makes to Braylon or Keller or Holmes in the back of endzones or sideline routes or on the run displaying beautiful accuracy and spin and zip.
2011, admittedly he took a step back, but I lay a lot of the blame on him getting killed by Hunter and going into a shell.
I get it, you love Tebow and you hate Sanchez. I hope for the Jets sake we never have to see Tebow play quarterback for us. TE, H-Back, punt protector, fake field goal holder, running back, run some routes, hand the ball off to him.
Starting QB like some of you are hoping for?
I hope Tebow and Sanchez work together in perfect harmony and the NYJETS win the Super Bowl..............than what will we all have to ***** about.
Honestly now, who gives a crap about velocity? I'm sure JaMarcus Russell throws harder than both of them from his knees but that still did him no good.
i forgot to add my link
but those were not numbers i made up..........keller would prob be on the list for most dropped passes for a TE........
I never ever said tebow was a better passer i said he can be a NFL passer and more suited to run a offense that rex and sparno want to run........that is the problem people do not look at what I say just soon as a make a defense or criticsm of either QB they put on shields and ignore the actual posts show me where I ever said he was a better thrower and more accurate?
My defense is sanchez does not have the football IQ takes forever to go through his reads and does not have leadership of that lockerroom or field those are very big problems for me.
Tebow on the other hand took a team that was obv reeling with orton at QB prob did not have alot of confidence and made the playoffs even though elway admitted during the last 3 games he became more tenative which is why he played worse he was not being tebow.
those are what I believe and I will stick to them and continue to defend or critique who i want if people do not like it I do not care I am not politically correct and could care less if people like me or not.
it would be nice if people wanted a actual debate though instead of making up stuff and saying I said it..........
I've seen Sanchez throw on a number of occasions and I watched 85% or so of all the passes Tebow threw in his first 16 starts. I also watched the kid for 4 years while he was at Florida.
I guess along with having difficulty with math and physics, comprehension is an issue with you as well. Why do I say that ? Because I haven't really talked about Sanchez other than to point out that he has a much higher percentage of shorter pass attempts than Tebow did last year. Guess what ? MOST QBs in the league have similar percentages to Sanchez. Why is that ? Because most OC's not named Mike McCoy actually call screen passes and short routes.Convince yourself all you want that Tebow is MORE accurate than his stats would lead you to believe and that Sanchez is LESS accurate than HIS stats would lead you to believe. Sanchez had MORE drops than Tebow and Orton combined and Tebow didn't have ALL those drops--some were Orton's.
Newsflash to you fella, me pointing that out isn't a knock against Sanchez, rather, it's a simple statement of fact.
Umm, at times, Tebow most certainly made some of those passes in his last 16 starts. Seriously dude, if you take the blinders off, you'll see that Tebow's problem is one of CONSISTENCY. He's made "all the NFL passes". He's made a lot of remarkable passes actually, both short, midrange, and deep. Again, it's CONSISTENCY.Tebow does not make any of the throws Sanchez makes to Braylon or Keller or Holmes in the back of endzones or sideline routes or on the run displaying beautiful accuracy and spin and zip.
Scenario: Tebow throws a beautiful 15 yard out pass on 3rd and 10. next series, he then throws a nice 7 yard crossing route on 2nd and 5. Series after that, it's 3rd and 6 and Tebow short hops the ball to Decker.
What do people remember ? That he bounced a ball to Decker and the drive stalled. Hence, he's a terrible and inaccurate passer.
Guess what ? This will probably shock you quite a bit. I agree with you and would actually add some things to that list. Play calling didn't always help. Nor did the fact that he didn't have a stable receiving corps.2011, admittedly he took a step back, but I lay a lot of the blame on him getting killed by Hunter and going into a shell.
Again, an apparent problem with comprehension. Please go back and find out where I have said ANYTHING that would indicate that I hate Sanchez or even that I think Tebow is a better QB/passer RIGHT NOW.I get it, you love Tebow and you hate Sanchez. I hope for the Jets sake we never have to see Tebow play quarterback for us. TE, H-Back, punt protector, fake field goal holder, running back, run some routes, hand the ball off to him.
Guess what ? You won't find either. Why is that ? Because I don't hate Sanchez, nor do I dislike him. To the contrary, I think he's a pretty good QB and could get better.
Furthermore, I think Sanchez SHOULD be the stater this year, and that Tebow should be the backup.
As I explained in a previous post, good velocity is largely due to good mechanics. Accuracy is due to good mechanics as well.
What I HOPE this means is that Tebow improved his mechanics while working with Mazzone this offseason and that those mechanics are now ingrained in his muscle memory.
This would be very good for the Jets as it would make Tebow even more of a threat in the "wildcat" package.
They should have just picked up Mark Brunell again and have QB coach Matt Cavanaugh be the 3rd string qb. This way, Mark Sanchez is not pushed and The Jets have no insurance at the quarterback position.
Arguing about which of our two quarterbacks Mark Sanchez or Tim Tebow is less inaccurate is about as useful as arguing which genocidal maniac, Adolph Hitler or Pol Pot was actually less of a genocidal maniac. Or if you don't like that one then it is a bit like arguing the merits of having a three inch dick as opposed to a two and a half inch dick.
Both QB suck in terms of being able to throw the ball and get completions.
Tebow sucks more and it isn't even as close as the two and a half inches to three inches example above.
Problem: The entire Jets lockeroom hates Mark Sanchez.
Solution: Let's trade for Tim Tebow!