Anyone who watches Jones though know this guy is showing so far that he is the real deal. He has gotten a sack in every game this season (the one in Baltimore was called back for a BS holding call). He is consistently drawing double teams and winning one on one match ups against good LTs (only Michael Oher has had any success with him and they let a lot of offensive holding go in that game for both teams). If Jones was a Patriot, Jet, or Brown; he would be getting the hype he is getting.
Last edited by Rob0729; 10-03-2012 at 02:14 PM.
I think Chandler Jones is a good player. But he did not do much in that Ravens game and he had PLENTY of opportunities to be stout against Ray Rice; I didn't see much of that at all. So - I've seen some good plays from him and some so-so. I'll wait til the end of the season to judge any of these guys.
Last edited by adpz; 10-03-2012 at 02:27 PM.
Jones had a far better game than you give him credit for against the Ravens. It was his worst game, but he did better than you say.
Here is an impartial write up by Matt Williamson at ESPN (yeah, not the best source):
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story...triots-defenseComparing anyone to the Giants' Jason Pierre-Paul just isn't fair. And Patriots DE Chandler Jones is not quite in that class in terms of physical gifts -- few are.
But Jones is close because of his incredibly long frame and arms, smooth movement skills and the natural strength to anchor or bull rush against bigger men. He has been extremely impressive thus far as a pass-rusher and against the run -- and he has yet to develop a wide array of pass-rush moves.
Also, Jones has to have endeared himself to Patriots coach Bill Belichick because of his versatility. He is best as a traditional 4-3 defensive end, but Jones also can stand up and bump outside in a wider technique or hunker down inside in more of a 3-4 defensive end role.
A big problem for Jones, and for New England, is that Jones is really the team's only threatening pass-rusher. Opposing teams now know he is the one to stop when they decide to pass, which is going to be a lot for any rookie to overcome. The Bills, namely fellow rookie Cordy Glenn, did a nice job against Jones in Week 4. But that is also a bit misleading, as Buffalo surrenders few sacks because its offense dictates getting the ball out very quickly.
And as for Coples, I don't think he has been all that impressive thus far, but I saw in the preseason (which has translated to the regular season) a raw player who struggled against the run and was more of disrupter than a polished pass rusher (he burst through the line, but had poor awareness of the QB). He is raw. So he could become dominant over time, but he needs to develop his game. I think it is way too soon to call him a bust, but I knew he wouldn't come out of the gate like gangbusters.
Last edited by Rob0729; 10-03-2012 at 02:34 PM.
I found this in 3 seconds
http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/sh...48&postcount=1During the draft process, he was outstanding and dominated the Senior Bowl practices. He was dam right unblockable and looked 2 steps ahead of everyone on the field. His combine showed what everyone expected. A physical specimen in the likes of Julius Peppers.
If anyone wants to fess up to having done so, be my guest.
I agree with the other post - yes, Jones has been at the top of the class so far in defensive rookies.
I don't know about A+ grades or C- grades on any draft. Those are subjective.
What I do know is that the only Patriots players on the team left form the 2004 SB team are Brady and Vince. Yet, they win 10+ games a season while getting younger and faster.
That is not subjective- it's a fact. Many of those younger and faster players are drafted, so that speaks for itself without a letter grade.
Last edited by #1Patriot; 10-03-2012 at 07:25 PM.