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    why does obama get so much blame?

    it seems to me after reviewing alot of stuff he just happens to be in the white house when the **** hit the fan.

    Trickle down economics was the result of regans presidency

    deregualting wall street and spefically the deraritives market was the result of clinton's presidency.

    george sr prompted the iraq war which cost billions

    george jr prompted us going back to iraq for WMD which cost trillions

    under one of them they allowed banks to give the bad loans.

    now I know obama has not been a great president but it seems to me he gets alot of blame for actually trying to fix the economy even if some of the stuff he does seems counterproductive.


    The Warning, veteran FRONTLINE producer Michael Kirk unearths the hidden history of the nation's worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. At the center of it all he finds Brooksley Born, who speaks for the first time on television about her failed campaign to regulate the secretive, multitrillion-dollar derivatives market whose crash helped trigger the financial collapse in the fall of 2008.

    [url]http://dailybail.com/home/pbs-frontline-the-warning-how-greenspan-summers-rubin-conspi.html[/url]

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    [QUOTE=ucrenegade;4454297]it seems to me after reviewing alot of stuff he just happens to be in the white house when the **** hit the fan.

    [B]Trickle down economics was the result of regans presidency
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    deregualting wall street and spefically the deraritives market was the result of clinton's presidency.

    george sr prompted the iraq war which cost billions

    george jr prompted us going back to iraq for WMD which cost trillions

    under one of them they allowed banks to give the bad loans.

    now I know obama has not been a great president but it seems to me he gets alot of blame for actually trying to fix the economy even if some of the stuff he does seems counterproductive.


    The Warning, veteran FRONTLINE producer Michael Kirk unearths the hidden history of the nation's worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. At the center of it all he finds Brooksley Born, who speaks for the first time on television about her failed campaign to regulate the secretive, multitrillion-dollar derivatives market whose crash helped trigger the financial collapse in the fall of 2008.

    [url]http://dailybail.com/home/pbs-frontline-the-warning-how-greenspan-summers-rubin-conspi.html[/url][/QUOTE]

    Ronald Reagan raised taxes on the rich. Thread fail.

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    [QUOTE=ucrenegade;4454297]it seems to me after reviewing alot of stuff he just happens to be in the white house when the **** hit the fan.[/QUOTE]

    Wrong, Peggy Joseph. The sht hit the fan in 2008, and he used the crisis to get himself elected, promising to fix things. Instead, he used it as an opportunity to loot the treasury and his economic policies have exacerbated the problem, causing more pain and misery, higher unemployment, inflation, etc.


    Eighty percent of the Department of Energy's (DOE) green loans, loan guarantees, and grants went to Obama backers. As Gomer Pyle used to say, "Surprise, surprise, surprise."

    Let's turn our attention to what has actually happened since Obama took office.

    •SunPower, after receiving $1.5 billion from DOE, is reorganizing, cutting jobs.

    •First Solar, after receiving $1.46 billion from DOE, is reorganizing, cutting jobs.

    •Solyndra, after receiving $535 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Ener1, after receiving $118.5 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Evergreen Solar, after receiving millions of dollars from the state of Massachusetts, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •SpectraWatt, backed by Intel and Goldman Sachs, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Beacon Power, after receiving $43 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Abound Solar, after receiving $400 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Amonix, after receiving $5.9 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Babcock & Brown (an Australian company), after receiving $178 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •A123 Systems, after receiving $279 million from DOE, shipped some bad batteries and is barely operating. It cut jobs.

    •Solar Trust for America, after receiving $2.1 billion loan guarantee from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Nevada Geothermal, after receiving $98.5 million from DOE, warns of potential defaults in new SEC filings.

    And that's a partial list. Can Obama and the DOE pick 'em, or what?



    Read more: [url]http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/04/solyndra_was_not_the_only_failure.html#ixzz1tWHQu9Ra[/url]

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    Add all of these together and it wouldn't last a week in Irag.


    [QUOTE=Frequent Flyer;4454372]Wrong, Peggy Joseph. The sht hit the fan in 2008, and he used the crisis to get himself elected, promising to fix things. Instead, he used it as an opportunity to loot the treasury and his economic policies have exacerbated the problem, causing more pain and misery, higher unemployment, inflation, etc.


    Eighty percent of the Department of Energy's (DOE) green loans, loan guarantees, and grants went to Obama backers. As Gomer Pyle used to say, "Surprise, surprise, surprise."

    Let's turn our attention to what has actually happened since Obama took office.

    •SunPower, after receiving $1.5 billion from DOE, is reorganizing, cutting jobs.

    •First Solar, after receiving $1.46 billion from DOE, is reorganizing, cutting jobs.

    •Solyndra, after receiving $535 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Ener1, after receiving $118.5 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Evergreen Solar, after receiving millions of dollars from the state of Massachusetts, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •SpectraWatt, backed by Intel and Goldman Sachs, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Beacon Power, after receiving $43 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Abound Solar, after receiving $400 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Amonix, after receiving $5.9 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Babcock & Brown (an Australian company), after receiving $178 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •A123 Systems, after receiving $279 million from DOE, shipped some bad batteries and is barely operating. It cut jobs.

    •Solar Trust for America, after receiving $2.1 billion loan guarantee from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Nevada Geothermal, after receiving $98.5 million from DOE, warns of potential defaults in new SEC filings.

    And that's a partial list. Can Obama and the DOE pick 'em, or what?



    Read more: [url]http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/04/solyndra_was_not_the_only_failure.html#ixzz1tWHQu9Ra[/url][/QUOTE]

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    Bottom line: Obuttocks inherited a bad situation and made it at least 3x worse. And his positions are generally not liked (his healthcare, his foreign policy mistakes, etc)

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    [QUOTE=Winstonbiggs;4454367]Ronald Reagan raised taxes on the rich. Thread fail.[/QUOTE]

    he may have raised the taxes but allowing trickle down economics to go through and you have the result of today a growing gap between the social classes.

    One of woody johnson's nephews did a documentary on this and exposed it all.

    Q&A: Jamie Johnson On ''The One Percent'' (Part 1)


    [url]http://www.forbes.com/2008/02/20/wealth-jamie-johnson-biz-cx_lr_0219johnson1.html[/url]

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    [QUOTE=Frequent Flyer;4454372]Wrong, Peggy Joseph. The sht hit the fan in 2008, and he used the crisis to get himself elected, promising to fix things. Instead, he used it as an opportunity to loot the treasury and his economic policies have exacerbated the problem, causing more pain and misery, higher unemployment, inflation, etc.


    Eighty percent of the Department of Energy's (DOE) green loans, loan guarantees, and grants went to Obama backers. As Gomer Pyle used to say, "Surprise, surprise, surprise."

    Let's turn our attention to what has actually happened since Obama took office.

    •SunPower, after receiving $1.5 billion from DOE, is reorganizing, cutting jobs.

    •First Solar, after receiving $1.46 billion from DOE, is reorganizing, cutting jobs.

    •Solyndra, after receiving $535 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Ener1, after receiving $118.5 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Evergreen Solar, after receiving millions of dollars from the state of Massachusetts, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •SpectraWatt, backed by Intel and Goldman Sachs, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Beacon Power, after receiving $43 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Abound Solar, after receiving $400 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Amonix, after receiving $5.9 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Babcock & Brown (an Australian company), after receiving $178 million from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •A123 Systems, after receiving $279 million from DOE, shipped some bad batteries and is barely operating. It cut jobs.

    •Solar Trust for America, after receiving $2.1 billion loan guarantee from DOE, filed for bankruptcy protection.

    •Nevada Geothermal, after receiving $98.5 million from DOE, warns of potential defaults in new SEC filings.

    And that's a partial list. Can Obama and the DOE pick 'em, or what?



    Read more: [url]http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/04/solyndra_was_not_the_only_failure.html#ixzz1tWHQu9Ra[/url][/QUOTE]


    and how much billions did clinton give his friends on wall street by deregulating it and not doing anything about derarivitives? How much did bush jr rip off the american public with fake WMD's and rigging the election in florida? How much billions did bush jr spend on war and finding osama? How many billions under the previous presidents did they let greenspan and goldman and sachs get from the american public?

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    because most white people HATE the fact that he is BLACK


    i calls it like i sees em

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    [QUOTE=ucrenegade;4454297]now I know obama has not been a great president but it seems to me he gets alot of blame for actually trying to fix the economy even if some of the stuff he does seems counterproductive.
    [/QUOTE]
    No, he has not been a great president.

    And his seemingly counterproductive moves are, in actuality, counterproductive and choke the economy.

    So it's pretty clear where the blame lies, guy - and it's not with "regan".

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    whatever "rewards" he gave back to his supporters.......while this is valid heres the deal: EVERYONE does this.

    its like saying that obama is doing something that the honorable conservatives havent done a million times before.

    and here we go....poking fun at obama for things everybody does. so while we all pick a "side" and root for it, we are all getting F'ed up the pooper and thats why the end is near

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    [QUOTE=dickkotite;4454620]because most white people HATE the fact that he is BLACK


    i calls it like i sees em[/QUOTE]


    Actually he's bi-racial. But he does not promoted that b/c it doesn't help his electability at all...

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    OK, the thread was started by a mouthfoamer who posted an article written by a mouthfoamer. I'm sorry for ever responding in the first place.

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    he looks black. thats the bottom line. a lot of people have issues with this

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    [QUOTE=Frequent Flyer;4454631]OK, the thread was started by a mouthfoamer who posted an article written by a mouthfoamer. I'm sorry for ever responding in the first place.[/QUOTE]

    mouthfoamer? wow you are still as clever as ever. vegas needs you....find an agent asap

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    [QUOTE=ucrenegade;4454297]it seems to me after reviewing alot of stuff he just happens to be in the white house when the **** hit the fan.

    Trickle down economics was the result of regans presidency

    deregualting wall street and spefically the deraritives market was the result of clinton's presidency.

    george sr prompted the iraq war which cost billions

    george jr prompted us going back to iraq for WMD which cost trillions

    under one of them they allowed banks to give the bad loans.

    now I know obama has not been a great president but it seems to me he gets alot of blame for actually trying to fix the economy even if some of the stuff he does seems counterproductive.


    The Warning, veteran FRONTLINE producer Michael Kirk unearths the hidden history of the nation's worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. At the center of it all he finds Brooksley Born, who speaks for the first time on television about her failed campaign to regulate the secretive, multitrillion-dollar derivatives market whose crash helped trigger the financial collapse in the fall of 2008.

    [url]http://dailybail.com/home/pbs-frontline-the-warning-how-greenspan-summers-rubin-conspi.html[/url][/QUOTE]

    Who was running and looting Fannie and Freddie? who resurrected the FAILED community re-investment act?( loans to UN-Qualified minority's, some to 125% LTV) who refused to order oversight of Fannie and Freddie even though Bush 2 warned congress of impending doom? Obama gets blame for a FAILED presidency of 3.4 years of doing nothing except campaigning and forcing down the throats of Americans the dismantling of the world best healthcare, Denigrating the U.S and Giving FAILED "green" energy Cos. 10's of billions for no return( 750mil to scumbag Pelosi's brother in law0.
    [url]http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Bush+on+more+oversite+for+fannie&oq=bush&aq=0p&aqi=p-p2g8&aql=&gs_l=youtube-psuggest.1.0.35i39l2j0l8.1502.5012.0.6230.4.4.0.0.0.0.72.276.4.4.0[/url].

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    [QUOTE=ucrenegade;4454611]he may have raised the taxes but allowing trickle down economics to go through and you have the result of today a growing gap between the social classes.

    One of woody johnson's nephews did a documentary on this and exposed it all.

    Q&A: Jamie Johnson On ''The One Percent'' (Part 1)


    [url]http://www.forbes.com/2008/02/20/wealth-jamie-johnson-biz-cx_lr_0219johnson1.html[/url][/QUOTE]

    What exactly did he expose? He makes a statement that taxes on the rich have gone down and the wealth gap has gone up. That doesn't even begin to address the issue.

    Ronald Reagan raised taxes on the rich and Obama has lowered taxes on the poor and the middle class and wealth inequality is soaring under Obama.

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    [QUOTE=ucrenegade;4454611]he may have raised the taxes but allowing trickle down economics to go through and you have the result of today a growing gap between the social classes.

    One of woody johnson's nephews did a documentary on this and exposed it all.

    Q&A: Jamie Johnson On ''The One Percent'' (Part 1)


    [url]http://www.forbes.com/2008/02/20/wealth-jamie-johnson-biz-cx_lr_0219johnson1.html[/url][/QUOTE]

    So your argument is that Reagan's policies, that gave us 20 straight years of massive expansion and pulled us out of a recession much deeper and harmful than the one we had in 2008, was a bad thing or the cause of the housing collapes?

    Then you are defending Obama who took advantage of the crisis by acting not to fix the economy but rather to enact a far left agenda of green energy (through his signature trillion dollar stimulus) and healthcare through all (through the hated Obamacare debacle).

    Maybe if he had spent his first two years dealing with the economy instead of passing bills that made things worse we would actually be in a recovery right now.

    Cliffs Notes on Obamas two signature pieces of legislation:

    Problem: High cost of healthcare is stifling business and causing people to simply not purchase insurance.

    Obama Solution: Pass a healthcare bill that actually raises the cost of health insurance while simultaneously massively raising taxes and still adding trillions o the deficit. What problem did this bill actually solve? It does the opposite. It raises taxes, raises premiums and increases deficits.


    Probmem: Economy in free fall. Need to stem job losses.
    Solution: Trillion dollar stimulus to spark the economy. (OK I can somewhat get on board with this idea)

    Execution: Obama used his fillabuster proof majorities in the house and senate to pass a blank check for 1 trillion dollars to stem job losses. They decide to push green energy (for years liberals have been screaming that green energy is the wave of the future). See the above post for the tens of trillions wasted on that futile dream with virtually no jobs created. Sprinkle in the billions wasted in cash for clunkers (autos and appliances) and billions to states that simply used it to replenish their coffers rather then hire new workers. In the end the bill was a complete waste. Each job created in even the mist liberal analysis cost over 2 million dollars. By some estimates the cost per job was upwards of 5 million dollars.

    Blowback: on the back of the stimulus we are facing a new debt crisis that has the potential to be many times worse then the housing crash.



    You ask why Obama gets blame for the economy today? It is because his policies have been harmful to the economy and harmful to the short and long term economic outlook our country.

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    [QUOTE=quantum;4454442]Bottom line: Obuttocks inherited a bad situation [B]created and exacerbated by his (D) compatriots[/B] and made it at least 3x worse. And his positions are generally not liked (his healthcare, his foreign policy mistakes, etc)[/QUOTE]

    Fixed

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4454729]So your argument is that Reagan's policies, that gave us 20 straight years of massive expansion and pulled us out of a recession much deeper and harmful than the one we had in 2008, was a bad thing or the cause of the housing collapes?.[/QUOTE]

    You're re-writing history. Did Reagan inherit 2 wars as well? Reagan raised taxes and gave us a big deficit as well. Pretty similar Presidents.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4455331]You're re-writing history. Did Reagan inherit 2 wars as well? Reagan raised taxes and gave us a big deficit as well. Pretty similar Presidents.[/QUOTE]

    Reagan inherited the cold war. He went on to win it. He also inherited 13% inflation and a crisis in Iran. He also inherited a massive recession. He also inherited a gas crisis. Reagan was the antithesis of Obama. His pro growth policies alongside his pro growth tax agenda led to a massive turnaround. The difference was that 4 years later we were growing at more than 5%. Unemployment was dropping like crazy and the markets were on fire. We went on to win the cold war and have the greatest 20 years of prosperity in our history.

    4 years later for Obama and the economy is flailing. His green jobs agenda was a complete bust. His healthcare overhaul was a disaster. Unemployment remains high and growth is sluggish at best. The national debt will have almost doubled by the time his 4th year is up. He neglected to address any of the economy's structural problems. His only successes have come by continuing his predecessors policies. All in all it has been a terrible three years for the economy and the country.

    Other than that...they were pretty similar.

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