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    [QUOTE=JetPotato;4455762]It is sad. But true.



    It isn't. Fact of life.



    Pretending it wasn't already in the gutter is your issue. NewsCorp exists as is as a reaction to the left's version of the gutter. Murdoch saw a model that worked and filled a void for a different part of the population. He was just better at it, and now the left is pissed.



    Important, but not the "most". The definition of media has changed, mainly as a response to our culture. People are hungry for extremes. So that's what they get. It sells. It doesn't exist to inform as you seem to naively believe. It exists to sell advertising space.



    Your head is not in the sand when you ignore FoxNews and MSNBC and search out actual facts. Quite the opposite.



    I'm under no such belief. It's my belief that the average citizen is dumb as a box of rocks. We get dumber as a society with each passing generation. Spoiled and dumb. Idiocracy lived. Nothing I can do to change that, I can only equip myself to survive by educating myself and ignoring the nonsense. The majority of those dummies out there, [B]that's going to be their problem. Not mine.[/B][/QUOTE]

    This is where you could not be more incorrect. It will be our problem (it already is TBH) because they will vote.....or not vote. The future generations will be in charge of the health of our country. Saying "its not my problem" does not make it so.

    Also, the American media has always been in a poor state. But there are even less journalistic standards now, less ethics and responsible behavior then ever before. Woodward and Bernstein, Walter Kronkite, Edward R. Murrow; they are long gone and with them, their sense of journalistic integrity. In their place we are left with Sean Hannity, Ed Shultz, Steve Doocy, Katie Couric.

    It has absolutely gone from bad to worse.
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    [QUOTE=SafetyBlitz;4455263]Couldn't the same be said for you in reverse?

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    No.....

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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4455938]This is where you could not be more incorrect. It will be our problem (it already is TBH) because they will vote.....or not vote. The future generations will be in charge of the health of our country. Saying "its not my problem" does not make it so.
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    No, sir, it is you that are mistaken. Stupid people are stupid people. Nothing can be done about it. Bad choices are going to be made whether FoxNews exists or not. The downfall of this country has been set in motion and it isn't going to be stopped. There is no point in having sour grapes about the ignorant masses being led by [I]their[/I] guys instead of being misled by [I]your[/I] guys. :rolleyes: You actually believe that you can "educate" these dopes? With the stuff you present here? As if it is any different? So naive.

    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4455938]
    Also, the American media has always been in a poor state. But there are even less journalistic standards now, less ethics and responsible behavior then ever before. Woodward and Bernstein, Walter Kronkite, Edward R. Murrow; they are long gone and with them, their sense of journalistic integrity. In their place we are left with Sean Hannity, Ed Shultz, Steve Doocy, Katie Couric.

    It has absolutely gone from bad to worse.[/QUOTE]

    And it will continue to get worse. Until the people demand otherwise. But as long as folks point the finger at one side as being worse than the other, that won't happen. Self-awareness is going to be the necessary first step.

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    The greatest irony in all of this is the people angriest about it, those on the left, fail to realize that they [I]need[/I] NewsCorp to exist.

    The craziness that FoxNews and the like arouse enables the Democratic Party. It's the only reason they are able to exist in this day and age.

    What would they do if they didn't have the right wing fringe making fools of themselves so they can point out to the mindless masses how "racist" the GOP is and how they are "raging a war on women" and "love the evil rich folk and hate the poor and immigrants"?

    What else would they have to run on? [B][I]Policy[/I][/B]? [B][I]Economy[/I][/B]? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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    [QUOTE=JetPotato;4456141]No, sir, it is you that are mistaken. Stupid people are stupid people. Nothing can be done about it. Bad choices are going to be made whether FoxNews exists or not. The downfall of this country has been set in motion and it isn't going to be stopped. There is no point in having sour grapes about the ignorant masses being led by [I]their[/I] guys instead of being misled by [I]your[/I] guys. :rolleyes: [B] You actually believe that you can "educate" these dopes? With the stuff you present here? As if it is any different? So naive.[/B]



    And it will continue to get worse. Until the people demand otherwise. But as long as folks point the finger at one side as being worse than the other, that won't happen. Self-awareness is going to be the necessary first step.[/QUOTE]


    Am I to assume that you act in the same manner outside of work as you act at work? Because if you do then you either have the most understanding boss in the world, are self-employed or live like a monk after hours. If not then it should be reasonably easy for you to understand that how I discuss current events/politics while posting at a football forum may not be the same as I act in a classroom. :rolleyes:

    As a teacher my task is to teach them [I]how[/I] to think not [I]what[/I] to think. I leave the indoctrinating to the cable "news" networks....
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    [QUOTE=JetPotato;4456336]The greatest irony in all of this is the people angriest about it, those on the left, fail to realize that they [I]need[/I] NewsCorp to exist.

    The craziness that FoxNews and the like arouse enables the Democratic Party. It's the only reason they are able to exist in this day and age.

    What would they do if they didn't have the right wing fringe making fools of themselves so they can point out to the mindless masses how "racist" the GOP is and how they are "raging a war on women" and "love the evil rich folk and hate the poor and immigrants"?

    What else would they have to run on? [B][I]Policy[/I][/B]? [B][I]Economy[/I][/B]? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA[/QUOTE]

    There are two sides to that coin. You think the republicans can run on the economy? Did you pay attention to the eight years of the Bush Administration? Did you follow congress during the six years when they had control of the house, senate as well as the White House? The hypocrisy of republicans running on fiscal responsibility is almost too much to take.

    Both parties are a disgrace. And both parties need each other to mask the smell of their own stink.
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    The Dowler family says hi.


    [QUOTE=JetPotato;4456336]The greatest irony in all of this is the people angriest about it, those on the left, fail to realize that they [I]need[/I] NewsCorp to exist.

    The craziness that FoxNews and the like arouse enables the Democratic Party. It's the only reason they are able to exist in this day and age.

    What would they do if they didn't have the right wing fringe making fools of themselves so they can point out to the mindless masses how "racist" the GOP is and how they are "raging a war on women" and "love the evil rich folk and hate the poor and immigrants"?

    What else would they have to run on? [B][I]Policy[/I][/B]? [B][I]Economy[/I][/B]? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4456681]Am I to assume that you act in the same manner outside of work as you act at work? Because if you do then you either have the most understanding boss in the world, are self-employed or live like a monk after hours. If not then it should be reasonably easy for you to understand that how I discuss current events/politics while posting at a football forum may not be the same as I act in a classroom. :rolleyes:

    As a teacher my task is to teach them [I]how[/I] to think not [I]what[/I] to think. I leave the indoctrinating to the cable "news" networks....[/QUOTE]

    Huh? Who's talking about your students? I'm talking about the people you mock for watching Fox News. Do you really think anything will change with those sorts if Fox News goes away? My point is people who gobble it up, or gobble up MSNBC or any of the other left outlets that you cite (who are no different than Fox), they're a lost cause.
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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4456685]There are two sides to that coin. You think the republicans can run on the economy? Did you pay attention to the eight years of the Bush Administration? Did you follow congress during the six years when they had control of the house, senate as well as the White House? The hypocrisy of republicans running on fiscal responsibility is almost too much to take.

    Both parties are a disgrace. And both parties need each other to mask the smell of their own stink.[/QUOTE]

    Yes, because George Bush isn't running, no matter what Obama wants to drill into your head. GOP fiscal policies, whether they are just talk or not, at least have some logical basis behind them. Dems meanwhile constantly drum up policies that have proven to fail consistently throughout all of human history, with added side effects of citizen oppression and the creation of a culture of dependency and failure.

    But with Obama and Reid and Co., there is no policy. No budget. Nothing but a campaign slogan based on a lie about CEOs and their secretaries. At the very least, at least the GOP wants to discuss the economy. Obama doesn't want to touch it with a ten foot pole. It's clear that his campaign strategy is going to be the paint the GOP as women-hating, racist 1% ers. It's pathetic.

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    [QUOTE=JetPotato;4456715]Yes, because George Bush isn't running, no matter what Obama wants to drill into your head. GOP fiscal policies, whether they are just talk or not, at least have some logical basis behind them. Dems meanwhile constantly drum up policies that have proven to fail consistently throughout all of human history, with added side effects of citizen oppression and the creation of a culture of dependency and failure.

    But with Obama and Reid and Co., there is no policy. No budget. Nothing but a campaign slogan based on a lie about CEOs and their secretaries. At the very least, at least the GOP wants to discuss the economy. Obama doesn't want to touch it with a ten foot pole. It's clear that his campaign strategy is going to be the paint the GOP as women-hating, racist 1% ers. It's pathetic.[/QUOTE]

    With respect, here is where your bias plays out. What did you say in one of your posts; "[I]as long as folks point the finger at one side as being worse than the other, that won't happen. Self-awareness is going to be the necessary first step[/I]."

    I have no qualm with your assertion that the democrats present false slogans and empty promises. But do you honestly believe that the republican party is any different? remember "compassionate conservatism"? :rolleyes: And what high-minded campaign strategies are the republicans running on; Obama is a socialist :rolleyes: Obama and democrats hate the rich. Its equally pathetic.

    Both sides play politics to preserve their power or win it back. Do you really believe that only the democrats are playing election year politics? Does the word [I]obstruction[/I] ring a bell?

    George Bush may not be running but I promise you that [B]many[/B] of the same republicans in congress preaching fiscal responsibility today were rubber stamping the irresponsible spending during the Bush years. I guess its just a coincidence that they found their fiscal souls when their party ceded power to the agenda of the opposite party. :zzz:
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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4456738]With respect, here is where your bias plays out. What did you say in one of your posts; "[I]as long as folks point the finger at one side as being worse than the other, that won't happen. Self-awareness is going to be the necessary first step[/I]."

    I have no qualm with your assertion that the democrats present false slogans and empty promises. But do you honestly believe that the republican party is any different?[/QUOTE]

    No, I've made it consistently clear that the GOP in its current state totally sucks. It just sucks far, far less than Obama, Reid, Pelosi and Co.

    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4456738]
    remember "compassionate conservatism"? :rolleyes: And what high-minded campaign strategies are the republicans running on; Obama is a socialist :rolleyes: Obama and democrats hate the rich. Its equally pathetic.[/QUOTE]

    No, that's what you hear on FoxNews. I haven't heard that from the Romney campaign. And do you really believe there's no truth to the idea that Obama has drawn a line in the sand between the rich and "non-rich"?:rolleyes:

    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4456738]
    Both sides play politics to preserve their power or win it back. Do you really believe that only the democrats are playing election year politics? Does the word [I]obstruction[/I] ring a bell? [/QUOTE]

    Didn't say that. Both are guilty. But any objective observer would be able to surmise that the Dems are much worse this time around. Obstruction. Please. Where's the budget to obstruct? Reid just openly admitted those guys have no desire or intention to pass one. Especially in an "election year". Unprecedented yet so quiet around that issue.

    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4456738]
    George Bush may not be running but I promise you that [B]many[/B] of the same republicans in congress preaching fiscal responsibility today were rubber stamping the irresponsible spending during the Bush years. I guess its just a coincidence that they found their fiscal souls when their party ceded power to the agenda of the opposite party. :zzz:[/QUOTE]

    It's funny that you seem to believe that anyone who opposes the absurdity of Obama and the left automatically embraces the entire right.

    Look at my history on this board. I don't support most of these idiots either. But given that we still only have two options these days, they are clearly the lesser of two evils. But you can't see it. The left machine has its grips on you just the same as the Foxies that you rail against are gripped. They've got you convinced you're in the middle, and the Foxies are the typical GOPer. Reality is, you aren't in the middle. You're their exact opposite counterpart. It's funny, ironic stuff. The fact that you brought up Bush as if he were running just now is exhibit A.

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    [QUOTE=JetPotato;4456765]No, I've made it consistently clear that the GOP in its current state totally sucks. It just sucks far, far less than Obama, Reid, Pelosi and Co.



    No, that's what you hear on FoxNews. I haven't heard that from the Romney campaign. And do you really believe there's no truth to the idea that Obama has drawn a line in the sand between the rich and "non-rich"?:rolleyes:



    Didn't say that. Both are guilty. But any objective observer would be able to surmise that the Dems are much worse this time around. Obstruction. Please. Where's the budget to obstruct? Reid just openly admitted those guys have no desire or intention to pass one. Especially in an "election year". Unprecedented yet so quiet around that issue.



    It's funny that you seem to believe that anyone who opposes the absurdity of Obama and the left automatically embraces the entire right.

    Look at my history on this board. I don't support most of these idiots either. But given that we still only have two options these days, they are clearly the lesser of two evils. But you can't see it. The left machine has its grips on you just the same as the Foxies that you rail against are gripped. They've got you convinced you're in the middle, and the Foxies are the typical GOPer. Reality is, you aren't in the middle. You're their exact opposite counterpart. It's funny, ironic stuff. The fact that you brought up Bush as if he were running just now is exhibit A.[/QUOTE]

    :D

    [I]So let's leave it alone, 'cause we can't see eye to eye.
    There ain't no good guys, there ain't no bad guys.
    There's only you and me and we just disagree.
    Ooo - ooo - ooohoo oh - oh - o-whoa[/I]
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    To think education is not currently indoctrinating kids is either ignorant or disingenuous.

    Apparently we're just concerned about WHO does the indoctrination . . .

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    [QUOTE=OCCH;4456819]To think education is not currently indoctrinating kids is either ignorant or disingenuous.

    Apparently we're just concerned about WHO does the indoctrination . . .[/QUOTE]

    Exactly. What we are seeing here is sour grapes over a monopoly lost. The outrage is comical.

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    [QUOTE=OCCH;4456819]To think education is not currently indoctrinating kids is either ignorant or disingenuous.

    Apparently we're just concerned about WHO does the indoctrination . . .[/QUOTE]

    I cannot account for "education" as a whole but I can assure you that I am being neither ignorant or disingenuous when I say [B]not in my room[/B].

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    [QUOTE=JetPotato;4456827]Exactly. What we are seeing here is sour grapes over a monopoly lost. The outrage is comical.[/QUOTE]

    :zzz::zzz::zzz::zzz::zzz::zzz:

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    [QUOTE=JetPotato;4456827]Exactly. What we are seeing here is sour grapes over a monopoly lost. The outrage is comical.[/QUOTE]

    I must of missed the indictments coming down on all of the LIB news channels?

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