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    Stephen King Rant

    While I have enjoed a lot of Stephen Kings writing (though much of it is way too long winded) I think he shows himself as quite a liberal, out of touch baffoon in this opinion piece.

    I found it worth the read just because it gives a little insight into the liberal mind. The 3000 comments are some fun reading too.

    For the TLDR crowd:King finds it appalling that the GOP thinks that people are greedy for wanting to keep what they earn, doesn't like Chris Christie and thinks everyone should pay the same proportional amount in taxes while simultaneously saying the rich should bear a larger burden somewhere around 50%.

    Thoughts? My plan to help reduce his angst at having too much money is to never buy another product from his franchise whether it be a book or a movie ticket.



    [QUOTE] [B]Stephen King: Tax Me, for F@%&’s Sake! [/B]

    [B] The iconic writer scolds the superrich (including himself—and Mitt Romney) for not giving back, and warns of a Kingsian apocalyptic scenario if inequality is not addressed in America. [/B]

    by [URL="http://www.thedailybeast.com/contributors/stephen-king.html"]Stephen King [/URL] | April 30, 2012 4:45 AM EDT [URL="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/02/why-liberals-should-leave-chris-christie-s-weight-alone.html"]Chris Christie may be fat[/URL], but he ain’t Santa Claus. In fact, he seems unable to decide if he is New Jersey’s governor or its [I]caporegime[/I], and it may be a comment on the coarsening of American discourse that his brash rudeness is often taken for charm. In February, while discussing New Jersey’s newly amended income-tax law, which allows the rich to pay less (proportionally) than the middle class, Christie was asked about Warren Buffett’s observation that he paid less federal income taxes than his personal secretary, and that wasn’t fair. “[URL="http://money.cnn.com/2012/02/21/news/economy/chris_christie_warren_buffett/index.htm"]He should just write a check and shut up[/URL],” Christie responded, with his typical verve. “I’m tired of hearing about it. If he wants to give the government more money, he’s got the ability to write a check—go ahead and write it.”

    Heard it all before. At a rally in Florida (to support collective bargaining and to express the socialist view that firing teachers with experience was sort of a bad idea), I pointed out that I was paying taxes of roughly 28 percent on my income. My question was, “How come I’m not paying 50?” The governor of New Jersey did not respond to this radical idea, possibly being too busy at the all-you-can-eat cheese buffet at Applebee’s in Jersey City, but plenty of other people of the Christie persuasion did.

    Cut a check and shut up, they said.

    If you want to pay more, pay more, they said.

    Tired of hearing about it, they said.

    Tough **** for you guys, because I’m not tired of talking about it. I’ve known rich people, and why not, since I’m one of [I]them[/I]? The majority would rather douse their dicks with lighter fluid, strike a match, and dance around singing “Disco Inferno” than pay one more cent in taxes to Uncle Sugar. It’s true that some rich folks put at least some of their tax savings into charitable contributions. My wife and I give away roughly $4 million a year to libraries, local fire departments that need updated lifesaving equipment (Jaws of Life tools are always a popular request), schools, and a scattering of organizations that underwrite the arts. [URL="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/04/16/why-democrats-feel-joy-in-gop-s-defeat-of-buffett-rule.html"]Warren Buffett[/URL] does the same; so does Bill Gates; so does Steven Spielberg; so do the Koch brothers; so did the late Steve Jobs.
    All fine as far as it goes, but it doesn’t go far enough.

    What charitable 1 percenters can’t do is assume responsibility—America’s national responsibilities: the care of its sick and its poor, the education of its young, the repair of its failing infrastructure, the repayment of its staggering war debts. Charity from the rich can’t fix global warming or lower the price of gasoline by one single red penny.

    That kind of salvation does not come from Mark Zuckerberg or Steve Ballmer saying, “OK, I’ll write a $2 million bonus check to the IRS.” That annoying responsibility stuff comes from three words that are anathema to the Tea Partiers: [I]United American citizenry[/I].

    And hey, why don’t we get real about this? Most rich folks paying 28 percent taxes do not give out another 28 percent of their income to charity. Most rich folks like to keep their dough. They don’t strip their bank accounts and investment portfolios. They keep them and then pass them on to their children, their children’s children. And what they [I]do[/I] give away is—like the monies my wife and I donate—totally at their own discretion. That’s the rich-guy philosophy in a nutshell: don’t tell [I]us[/I] how to use our money; we’ll tell [I]you[/I].

    The Koch brothers are right-wing creepazoids, but they’re [I]giving[/I] right-wing creepazoids. Here’s an example: 68 million fine American dollars to Deerfield Academy. Which is great for Deerfield Academy. But it won’t do squat for cleaning up the oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, where food fish are now showing up with black lesions. It won’t pay for stronger regulations to keep BP (or some other bunch of dip**** oil drillers) from doing it again. It won’t repair the levees surrounding New Orleans. It won’t improve education in Mississippi or Alabama. But what the hell—them li’l crackers ain’t never going to go to Deerfield Academy anyway. **** ’em if they can’t take a joke.

    Here’s another crock of fresh bull**** delivered by the right wing of the Republican Party (which has become, so far as I can see, the [I]only[/I] wing of the Republican Party): the richer rich people get, the more jobs they create. Really? I have a total payroll of about 60 people, most of them working for the two radio stations I own in Bangor, Maine. If I hit the movie jackpot—as I have, from time to time—and own a piece of a film that grosses $200 million, what am I going to do with it? Buy another radio station? I don’t think so, since I’m losing my shirt on the ones I own already. But suppose I did, and hired on an additional dozen folks. Good for them. Whoopee-ding for the rest of the economy.
    [INDENT] Tired of hearing about it, they said. Tough **** for you guys, because I’m not tired of talking about it. I’ve known rich people, and why not, since I’m one of [I]them[/I]?[/INDENT]At the risk of repeating myself, here’s what rich folks do when they get richer: [I]they invest[/I]. A lot of those investments are overseas, thanks to the anti-American business policies of the last four administrations.

    Don’t think so? Check the tag on that T-shirt or gimme cap you’re wearing. If it says MADE IN AMERICA, I’ll … well, I won’t say I’ll eat your shorts, because some of that stuff [I]is[/I] made here, but not much of it.

    And what does get made here doesn’t get made by America’s small cadre of pluted bloatocrats; it’s made, for the most part, in barely-gittin’-by factories in the Deep South, where the only unions people believe in are those solemnized at the altar of the local church (as long as they’re from different sexes, that is).

    The U.S. senators and representatives who refuse even to consider raising taxes on the rich—they squall like scalded babies (usually on Fox News) every time the subject comes up—are not, by and large, superrich themselves, although many are millionaires and all have had the equivalent of Obamacare for years. They simply idolize the rich.

    Don’t ask me why; I don’t get it either, since most rich people are as boring as old, dead dog ****. The Mitch McConnells and John Boehners and Eric Cantors just can’t seem to help themselves. These guys and their right-wing supporters regard deep pockets like Christy Walton and Sheldon Adelson the way little girls regard Justin Bieber … which is to say, with wide eyes, slack jaws, and the drool of adoration dripping from their chins. I’ve gotten the same reaction myself, even though I’m only “baby rich” compared with some of these guys, who float serenely over the lives of the struggling middle class like blimps made of thousand-dollar bills.

    In America, the rich are hallowed. Even Warren Buffett, who has largely been drummed out of the club for his radical ideas about putting his money where his mouth is when it comes to patriotism, made the front pages when he announced that he had stage-1 prostate cancer. Stage 1, for God’s sake! A hundred clinics can fix him up, and he can put the bill on his American Express black card! But the press made it sound like the pope’s balls had just dropped off and shattered! Because it was cancer? No! Because it was [I]Warren Buffett, he of Berkshire-Hathaway![/I]

    I guess some of this mad right-wing love comes from the idea that in America, anyone can become a Rich Guy if he just works hard and saves his pennies. [URL="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/13/to-romney-detractors-suffer-from-envy.html"]Mitt Romney has said[/URL], in effect, “I’m rich and I don’t apologize for it.” Nobody wants you to, Mitt. What some of us want—those who aren’t blinded by a lot of bull**** persiflage thrown up to mask the idea that [I]rich folks want to keep their damn money[/I]—is for you to acknowledge that you couldn’t have made it in America [I]without[/I] America. That you were fortunate enough to be born in a country where upward mobility is possible (a subject upon which Barack Obama can speak with the authority of experience), but where the channels making such upward mobility possible are being increasingly clogged. That it’s not fair to ask the middle class to assume a disproportionate amount of the tax burden. Not fair? It’s un-****ing-American is what it is. I don’t want you to apologize for being rich; I want you to acknowledge that in America, we all should have to pay our fair share. That our civics classes never taught us that being American means that—sorry, kiddies—you’re on your own. That those who have received much must be obligated to pay—not to give, not to “cut a check and shut up,” in Governor Christie’s words, but to [I]pay[/I]—in the same proportion. That’s called stepping up and not whining about it. That’s called patriotism, a word the Tea Partiers love to throw around as long as it doesn’t cost their beloved rich folks any money.

    This has to happen if America is to remain strong and true to its ideals. It’s a practical necessity and a moral imperative. Last year during the Occupy movement, the conservatives who oppose tax equality saw the first real ripples of discontent. Their response was either Marie Antoinette (“Let them eat cake”) or Ebenezer Scrooge (“Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?”). Short-sighted, gentlemen. Very short-sighted. If this situation isn’t fairly addressed, last year’s protests will just be the beginning. Scrooge changed his tune after the ghosts visited him. Marie Antoinette, on the other hand, lost her head.

    Think about it.

    ©2011 The Newsweek/Daily Beast Company LLC
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    King is a longtime liberal, so this is not news per se. It must be a very diffiuclt position to be in, being in the top 0.0001% as KIng is, and still being a Liberal/Socialist policy wise. As such, this kind of rant is somethign I'd expect most ultra-rich liberals to make publicly, whilst doing everything possible to lower their tax burden privately.

    Him writing another good book, as he did in his early days.....that would be news. I truly and deeply mourn the loss of the hungry young man who wrote those early-era novels. His later era is really quite poor all round.
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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4458657]King is a longtime liberal, so this is not news per se. It must be a very diffiuclt position to be in, being in the top 0.0001% as KIng is, and still being a Liberal/Socialist policy wise. As such, this kind of rant is somethign I'd expect most ultra-rich liberals to make publicly, whilst doing everything possible to lower their tax burden privately.

    Him writing another good book, as he did in his early days.....that would be news. I truly and deeply mourn the loss of the hungry young man who wrote those early-era novels. His later era is really quite poor all round.[/QUOTE]

    I definitely agree with you on his writing. My favorite things he wrote were from his early career. I remember not being able to put down the Bachman Books compilation.

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    I agree with it.

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    Great piece by King.

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    I don't think it's unreasonable for all Americans to pay the same tax rate relative to their income. King's rant aside what is the issue there?:huh:

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    [QUOTE=kennyo7;4458726]Great piece by King.[/QUOTE]

    Embarrassing piece to be written by a professional author. Reads like it was written by an angry college student trying to please his left wingnut professor.

    I will agree with him on one thing, though -- I do believe that EVERYONE should be paying their fair share of taxes.

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    [QUOTE=shakin318;4458778]Embarrassing piece to be written by a professional author. Reads like it was written by an angry college student trying to please his left wingnut professor.

    I will agree with him on one thing, though -- I do believe that EVERYONE should be paying their fair share of taxes.[/QUOTE]

    +1

    Just goes to show no matter how good you may be as a writer, stupid concepts and falsehoods will still come out stupid and false.

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    [QUOTE=PatriotReign;4458756]I don't think it's unreasonable for all Americans to pay the same tax rate relative to their income. King's rant aside what is the issue there?:huh:[/QUOTE]

    It is a rant, plain and simple. Nothing concrete, no ideas, no solutions. On one hand he says everyone should pay the same, next he says they should pay "their fair share" and on another he says that the rich should pay a higher percentage. Which is it?

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4458806]It is a rant, plain and simple. Nothing concrete, no ideas, no solutions. On one hand he says everyone should pay the same, next he says they should pay "their fair share" and on another he says that the rich should pay a higher percentage. Which is it?[/QUOTE]

    This. If I were him, I'd be embarrassed after re-reading this piece...

    He did successfully get every crazed left wing talking point into this piece though, which is somewhat impressive for such a short read...

    For a guy who claims he only sees the far right in the Republican Party, I think he's too far left to see a distinction in conservatism... It's all far right from his viewpoint...

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    [SIZE="5"]“He should just write a check and shut up,” Christie responded, with his typical verve. “I’m tired of hearing about it. If he wants to give the government more money, he’s got the ability to write a check—go ahead and write it.”[/SIZE]



    What more needs to be said? While I enjoy some of King's work, dude's messed up in the head.

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4458806]It is a rant, plain and simple. Nothing concrete, no ideas, no solutions. On one hand he says everyone should pay the same, next he says they should pay "their fair share" and on another he says that the rich should pay a higher percentage. Which is it?[/QUOTE]

    In Liberal (for the most part) Massachusetts you have the option of checking a box to pay a higher tax rate for that year's income. IIRC only a couple hundred people out of 6.5 million residents checked it.:D

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    [QUOTE=PatriotReign;4458756]I don't think it's unreasonable for all Americans to pay the same tax rate relative to their income. King's rant aside what is the issue there?:huh:[/QUOTE]

    Fine. Chuck the income tax, put on a national sales tax.

    Here illegally? Still have to pay tax if you want to buy stuff.

    Want to pay less taxes? Buy crap when it's on sale.

    No loopholes, no government charging me late fees when they lose the check.

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    Tax rates are at their lowest since the 1920s.

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    [QUOTE=Trades;4458649]While I have enjoed a lot of Stephen Kings writing (though much of it is way too long winded) I think he shows himself as quite a liberal, out of touch baffoon in this opinion piece.

    I found it worth the read just because it gives a little insight into the liberal mind. The 3000 comments are some fun reading too.

    For the TLDR crowd:King finds it appalling that the GOP thinks that people are greedy for wanting to keep what they earn, doesn't like Chris Christie and thinks everyone should pay the same proportional amount in taxes while simultaneously saying the rich should bear a larger burden somewhere around 50%.

    Thoughts? My plan to help reduce his angst at having too much money is to never buy another product from his franchise whether it be a book or a movie ticket.



    [URL]http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/04/30/stephen-king-tax-me-for-f-s-sake.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

    freaking awesome A whole new respect for the man and kinda what I was saying in my a serious question thread...........trickle down economics does not work because the only place the rich trickle some money is overseas.

    And another great point it has been this way for the last 4 administrations not just obamas. :yes:

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    [QUOTE=ucrenegade;4459071]freaking awesome A whole new respect for the man and kinda what I was saying in my a serious question thread...........trickle down economics does not work because the only place the rich trickle some money is overseas.

    And another great point it has been this way for the last 4 administrations not just obamas. :yes:[/QUOTE]

    So you respect someone for a disjointed rant that readily admits the only way he will use his money for anything other than himself is through failed radio stations or if the government takes it by force other than minimal donations.

    Why doesn't he start a charity that does what he wants to with his money? Get guys like Buffet and him to use their money to seed it. He is just complaining, worthless.

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    [QUOTE=SafetyBlitz;4459063]Tax rates are at their lowest since the 1920s.[/QUOTE]

    Your premise and wording are faulty. Taxes are measured as a percentage of GDP not by rates. Rates are completely irrelevant. Go back and look up tax revenues as a percentage of GDP then post about it and make your point.

    One thing is absolutely true. The tax code today is the most progressive its been in our history. Another absolute fact for you. The top 10% pay a much larger share of the tax burden today then ever before. Look it up.

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4459651]Your premise and wording are faulty. Taxes are measured as a percentage of GDP not by rates. Rates are completely irrelevant. Go back and look up tax revenues as a percentage of GDP then post about it and make your point.

    One thing is absolutely true. The tax code today is the most progressive its been in our history. Another absolute fact for you. The top 10% pay a much larger share of the tax burden today then ever before. Look it up.[/QUOTE]

    Hey, knock it off -- Rachel Maddow didn't clarify with facts like that when she told him "tax rates are at their lowest point since the 1920's."

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4459651]Your premise and wording are faulty. Taxes are measured as a percentage of GDP not by rates. Rates are completely irrelevant. Go back and look up tax revenues as a percentage of GDP then post about it and make your point.

    One thing is absolutely true. The tax code today is the most progressive its been in our history. Another absolute fact for you. The top 10% pay a much larger share of the tax burden today then ever before. Look it up.[/QUOTE]


    Rates, as in the percentage which people pay on their income, not the percentage of GDP.

    Considering Reagan dropped the top bracket from 70% to 28% - I doubt our code is the most progressive now.

    Rates are not irrelevant. The rich need to pay more - Rachel Maddow told me so!... [SIZE="1"]I don't watch MSNBC. Ever.[/SIZE]

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    [QUOTE=SafetyBlitz;4459817]Rates, as in the percentage which people pay on their income, not the percentage of GDP.

    Considering Reagan dropped the top bracket from 70% to 28% - I doubt our code is the most progressive now.

    Rates are not irrelevant. The rich need to pay more - Rachel Maddow told me so!... [SIZE="1"]I don't watch MSNBC. Ever.[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

    When you say "Rates" are you including all rates paid by an individual? Or just Federal Income Tax?

    If you're saying an Individuals Tax Burden is the lowest, in total, that says something.

    If you're saying an Individuals Federal Income Tax Rate in Bracket Y is the lowest %, thats not saying as much, given the complexity and multi-tax-system we live under.

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