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    [QUOTE=Dunnie;4469452]Anyone else worried that our QB coach thinks tebow's mechanics are 'good' ?[/QUOTE]

    Not unless we are talking a top 5 pick out of the draft really. We knew what kind of pro game we where getting with Tebow. Sometimes it is not how they do it just that they do it. Terry Bradshaw had horrible mechanics, but was extremely successful. Montana changed the way a generation held the ball and never really had a fast release. It is all about finding his accuracy and homing his instincts. If he can do that without text book mechanics he can win. You don't hear as much about mechanics when they do well.

    Tebow has a good arm and good instincts he just needs to work on his accuracy and a faster release. He still takes way too long to put the ball up. The biggest reason you see scouts nit pick about mechanics is so many QBs lose power and accuracy when they shorten their whined up for the pros. With Tebows arm that shouldn't be an issue and he never had accuracy. He actually did shortened his whined up last year but still seemed slow. Personally I think he needs to lose a few inches on that trunk he calls his arm. He does however have very good velocity.

    His issues last year where very much all accuracy issues. He made a lot of really good plays mentally just didn't put the ball where he wanted a whole lot. Accuracy is just hard to teach. For some guys hitting a moving target is impossible. The thing that is interesting about Tebow is he is so mentally strong. You can knock him around, boo him, and make him look a fool but he will just keep trying. Sanchez may be the more talented QB overall but Tebow will be working hard every day to get his shot. It should be enough to give Sanchez the competition he needs IMO. Where as this may look like anther Orton vs Rex type thing both have a lot higher up side.
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    [QUOTE=Dreamers;4470798]Not unless we are talking a top 5 pick out of the draft really. We knew what kind of pro game we where getting with Tebow. Sometimes it is not how they do it just that they do it. Terry Bradshaw had horrible mechanics, but was extremely successful. Montana changed the way a generation held the ball and never really had a fast release. It is all about finding his accuracy and homing his instincts. If he can do that without text book mechanics he can win. You don't hear as much about mechanics when they do well.

    Tebow has a good arm and good instincts he just needs to work on his accuracy and a faster release. He still takes way too long to put the ball up. The biggest reason you see scouts nit pick about mechanics is so many QBs lose power and accuracy when they shorten their whined up for the pros. With Tebows arm that shouldn't be an issue and he never had accuracy. He actually did shortened his whined up last year but still seemed slow. Personally I think he needs to lose a few inches on that trunk he calls his arm. He does however have very good velocity.

    His issues last year where very much all accuracy issues. He made a lot of really good plays mentally just didn't put the ball where he wanted a whole lot. Accuracy is just hard to teach. For some guys hitting a moving target is impossible. The thing that is interesting about Tebow is he is so mentally strong. You can knock him around, boo him, and make him look a fool but he will just keep trying. Sanchez may be the more talented QB overall but Tebow will be working hard every day to get his shot. It should be enough to give Sanchez the competition he needs IMO. Where as this may look like anther Orton vs Rex type thing both have a lot higher up side.[/QUOTE]


    Tebow was an accurate passer in college. The knock then was that he wasn't "NFL accurate". It's a subtle distinction to be sure, but it's an important one.

    The next point is the difference between being accurate and consistent. If you place a target 10 yards away and hit it 5 or 6 times out of 10, you have accuracy, but you lack consistency. Your accuracy is demonstrated by the fact that you decided where you wanted to throw the ball, you threw it there and you hit the target dead on 5 times. The actual level of accuracy depends on how close you came to the exact spot that you were throwing to (bulls eye perhaps).

    While those 5 throws demonstrated accuracy, that you only hit 5 or 6 out of 10 shows that you are inconsistent.

    The distinction here is important because as you said, accuracy is hard to teach while consistency is much easier to master.

    Tebow's passing this season was nothing like what he did in college. Back at Florida, he wasn't known to bounce balls in the dirt or to wildly miss his receivers in short to mid-range patterns. Hell, he had a career 66.4% comp. percentage at Florida and a passer rating of 170.8. And yes, college defenses aren't as good as they are in the NFL, but you don't complete 66% and have a 170.8 passer rating by bouncing balls in the dirt and being unable to hit medium and short routes.

    If you compare Tebow's college passing stats to those of Eli Manning, Peyton Manning, Matt Stafford, aside from # of attempts and total yardage, Tebow's stats are better that all of them in every single category except one, which is that Peyton Manning threw 2 more TDs than Tebow.

    [CODE]Player Comp. Att. Pct. Yards YPA TD TD% INT INT% Rating*
    Peyton Manning 851 1,354 62.85 11,201 8.27 90 6.65 33 2.44 100.93
    Eli Manning 841 1,383 60.81 10,286 7.44 84 6.07 36 2.60 93.15
    Matt Stafford 564 986 57.2 7,731 7.84 51 5.17 33 3.35 85.72
    Tim Tebow 661 985 67.11 9,286 9.43 88 8.93 15 1.52 120.72
    [/CODE]

    This demonstrates conclusively that Tebow was "accurate" passing the ball in college. Again, not "NFL" accurate, but like I said, he wasn't bouncing balls in the dirt.

    Something happened along the way and I submit that it was the changes in his mechanics/footwork, and that he hasn't mastered the changes yet or burned them into his muscle memory. This would lead to his being inconsistent.

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