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    Link, sparano night and day from sh!tty, holding players accountable

    [url]http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2012/05/jets_dustin_keller_says_tony_s.html[/url]

    Really good stuff, heard some of it already. The offense had been a total sh!tshow before, now hopefully it will be a better run operation.

    / The Star-Ledger
    Jets tight end Dustin Keller said Tony Sparano runs a tighter ship than any coach he's ever had.
    NEW YORK -- New Jets offensive coordinator Tony Sparano's in-your-face, no-nonsense style has drawn positive reviews so far, and tight end Dustin Keller said the biggest key is that Sparano will hold players accountable for their performance.
    "He definitely runs a tighter ship than I've seen from anyone before, and heís not going to let anyone slip up," Keller said last night at the United Way's Gridiron Gala, where Jets right guard Brandon Moore and Giants right guard Chris Snee were honored for their community service. "I think thatís when problems do arise. Itís going to continue. You can tell itís not just a one day or an OTA thing, this thing is going to keep on going and going, and I think we need it."
    Keller joked that he's surprised Sparano's voice is as strong as it is after nearly three decades of coaching. He didn't go so far as to say there was a lack of accountability last year under former offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer, but Keller has seen a difference.
    "When Sparano is in there talking, all eyes are on him," Keller said. "Itís a change. Before, I would say it was a little more laid-back. But with him itís more stern, and he just has everybodyís attention, and I think guys are paying more attention to details now more than ever."
    Keller added: "Most all the guys have been very accountable to themselves, to the things they're doing, but I think this year more than ever. Everything from the details of how far you need to line up and everything, guys already have that stuff down, and if you donít, heís kind of coming down on you. And thatís how itís going to be all season, you can already tell."
    Keller also echoed what coach Rex Ryan recently hinted, that Sparano's system allows players to help each other more, instead of for instance leaving a tackle out on an island. Keller said there are more calls designated for specific situations, rather than catch-all calls, taking the gray area out. The additional calls also give the Jets more chances to use double teams, he said.
    "There are a lot more options for us to help each other out in this," Keller said. "We have a lot more calls, so it's more stuff you have to memorize, but in the grand scheme of things, weíre all going to be able to help each other out a lot more. It's hard to give any exact examples, but it is, itís there."
    Keller said the Jets are still focusing on the base offense but they have been mixing in some "22 personnel" sets, in which there are two tight ends and two backs. In those sets, he said Jeff Cumberland, who is coming off a season-ending Achilles tear, is the second tight end.
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    This could be a make-or-break offseason for Vlad Ducasse, the 2010 second-round pick who has yet to take on a significant role. Ducasse said he is exclusively working at right tackle, which is where he prefers to be.
    Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum said after the draft that incumbent right tackle Wayne Hunter is "competing for a position here," and Ducasse would be his competition.
    "Right now, I donít know, but weíll see how it goes," Ducasse said. "At the end of training camp, weíll see how it goes."
    This is Ducasse's first full offseason with the team. He was a rookie in 2010 and the lockout took away the offseason program in 2011. He appreciates being able to work with the coaches each day, and said he's working with strength and conditioning coach Bill Hughan on things he never worked on before, which is "what I needed."
    Ducasse said the "ultimate goal" is to be a starter, but he's not sure how it will play out. He does know this year is "very, very important" to his career.
    "This is my third year, and this is the year that I'm finally getting my offseason program," Ducasse said. "So itís a big year for me."

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    [QUOTE=barkus;4469560]He didn't go so far as to say there was a lack of accountability last year under former offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer, but Keller has seen a difference.[/QUOTE]

    and yet the entire article (as well as other comments from various Jets so far this off-season) shows that was the case.

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    Jets have leaders as players, but they are quiet leaders - Harris, Mangold, DBrick, BT, even Revis (talkative lately, but not really in the Ray Lewis mold).

    As for coaches, I know Rex can motivate them, but last season there seemed to be no coaches holding guys accountable. Sparano's disciplinary style and in your face attitude is what this team needs. I hope it works. A lot of times that complete 180 can work. I hope they all buy in to the style.

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    [B][SIZE="2"]Thank you, Thank you, THANK YOU!!!! For this on point football post!!![/SIZE][/B]

    Great information and it confirms what my friend said about coach Sprags when he played under him at UConn.:yes:

    The article also shows just what kind of coach Schotty was here as well...... There was an old Parcells saying that I think applies "you can't waste time coaching the coaches"!!!
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    [QUOTE=Charlie Brown;4469583][B][SIZE="2"]Thank you, Thank you, THANK YOU!!!! For this on point football post!!![/SIZE][/B]

    Great information and it confirms what my friend said about coach Sprags when he played under him at UConn.:yes:

    The article also shows just what kind of coach Schotty was here as well...... [B]There was an old Parcells saying that I think applies "you can't waste time coaching the coaches[/B]"!!![/QUOTE]

    Still not up to old Hermie's saying; You can't coach talent.. Well at least he couldn't..;)

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    I am so happy Schotty is gone, but I just cannot get that excited over Sparano. He did nothing in Miami that suggests he can run a good offense.

    We will see in a few months what tony brings to the table.

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    [QUOTE=Joe W. Namath;4469614]I am so happy Schotty is gone, but I just cannot get that excited over Sparano. He did nothing in Miami that suggests he can run a good offense.

    We will see in a few months what tony brings to the table.[/QUOTE]

    Would you have preferred that they hired maybe a Jim Caldwell? He did a great job with the Colts for years... his offense was great while he was the HC.:rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=Joe W. Namath;4469614]I am so happy Schotty is gone, but I just cannot get that excited over Sparano. He did nothing in Miami that suggests he can run a good offense.

    We will see in a few months what tony brings to the table.[/QUOTE]

    I agree ... although I do like finally having 'Two Back' set thrown back into the mix ... all we have seen for nearly a decade is the I formation and offset I with a fullback lead.

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    [QUOTE=Joe W. Namath;4469614]I am so happy Schotty is gone, but I just cannot get that excited over Sparano. [B]He did nothing in Miami that suggests he can run a good offense.[/B]We will see in a few months what tony brings to the table.[/QUOTE]

    Did you like Dan Henning?? Because he was the OC for the fins 2008-10 when he had your boy Chaddy cakes..

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    the good thing is Rex chose him and their philosophies match up

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    [QUOTE]Did you like Dan Henning?? Because he was the OC for the fins 2008-10 when he had your boy Chaddy cakes.. [/QUOTE]

    Dan Henning was our oc in 2000 when our fullback, Ritchie Anderson, had 88 catches. When your fullback catches 88 balls, yor offense probably isnt very good.

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    [QUOTE=Joe W. Namath;4469625]Dan Henning was our oc in 2000 when our fullback, Ritchie Anderson, had 88 catches. When your fullback catches 88 balls, yor offense probably isnt very good.[/QUOTE]

    Does that mean you give Sparano credit for winning the east in 08???:confused:

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    [QUOTE]Does that mean you give Sparano credit for winning the east in 08???[/QUOTE]

    No, Chad won the AFC East that year. Josh McCown was the starting qb before Chad got there. That was a 1-15 team without Chad.

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    [QUOTE=Joe W. Namath;4469640]No, Chad won the AFC East that year. Josh McCown was the starting qb before Chad got there. That was a 1-15 team without Chad.[/QUOTE]

    So Chad just showed up and told Sparano that he was going to be the QB and to sit down and shut up.. I know facts and you don't get along but after Trent Green got hurt Cleo Lemon was the QB to my knowledge McCown was never a Fin..

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    [QUOTE=Joe W. Namath;4469625]Dan Henning was our oc in 2000 when our fullback, Ritchie Anderson, had 88 catches. When your fullback catches 88 balls, yor offense probably isnt very good.[/QUOTE]

    When your WR's consist of Chrebet, Dedrick Ward, Vincent Brisby and rookie Coles, it's not surprising that the backs were used a lot in the passing game. Curtis Martin had 70 catches. Martin and Anderson each had more catches than any WR on the team. The Jets led the NFL in passing attempts that year by the way.

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    [QUOTE=Charlie Brown;4469583][B][SIZE="2"]Thank you, Thank you, THANK YOU!!!! For this on point football post!!![/SIZE][/B]

    Great information and it confirms what my friend said about coach Sprags when he played under him at UConn.:yes:

    The article also shows just what kind of coach Schotty was here as well...... There was an old Parcells saying that I think applies "you can't waste time coaching the coaches"!!![/QUOTE]

    The more I read and hear about Sparano the less skeptical and critical I am about the hiring.

    Keller definitely saying all the right stuff.

    Long way to go but definitely and good start

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    [QUOTE=Savage69;4469658]So Chad just showed up and told Sparano that he was going to be the QB and to sit down and shut up.. I know facts and you don't get along but after Trent Green got hurt Cleo Lemon was the QB to my knowledge [B]McCown was never a Fin[/B]..[/QUOTE]

    I think Ken must be writing his posts.

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    How exactly is this Ducasse's first full training camp?

    Did he not participate in TC in 2010 as a rookie?

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    [QUOTE]I know facts and you don't get along but after Trent Green got hurt Cleo Lemon was the QB to my knowledge McCown was never a Fin.. [/QUOTE]

    Um.......... neither Lemon or Green were on that roster and Josh Mcnown was the starting qb before Chad showed up. Lets get the facts straight my friend.

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    [QUOTE=Joe W. Namath;4469676]Um.......... neither Lemon or Green were on that roster and Josh Mcnown was the starting qb before Chad showed up. Lets get the facts straight my friend.[/QUOTE]

    True. McCown was listed as the starter in TC before Pennington arrived. He was then traded before the season started.

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