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    Of all his sacks last year, the most promising one to me was the one against the Redskins. He set up Jammal Brown with a step outside then used his hands to swim inside on him. Then not only does he get the sack he gets the FF too. I LOVE that about this guy. His ability to force turnovers is a huge bonus.

    Anyway, the sack on Grossman was great to see because the book on him was a one-trick pony speed rush. Having a counter move like that (or even a spin inside) will be crucial to his continued development. Adding a few pounds of upper body strength has got to help. The question is how much of the added weight will he be able to retain during the season? D'Brick struggled with this early in his career too. Maybe with added body maturity he can keep the weight on this year or in future years.

    IMO, Maybin is an ideal landing spot. He's surrounded by great defensive coaches. He has DBs that can hold up in coverage so that even if he does overrun the pocket with his speed rush, his motor + our coverage guys sticking to their men allows him to get back in the play or hunt down the QB. At least a few of the sacks last year were a direct result of that (the sack/FF on Flacco immediately comes to mind). And finally, now we have two behemoths up the middle in Big Mo and Q to push the pocket back and attract doubles. If they leave the pocket, Mayhem hunts him down. If the QB stays in the pocket, he is going to have to sidestep and make many courageous throws in a muddied pocket to beat us. Needless to say, I'm extremely excited about these three young guys.
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    [QUOTE=palmetto defender;4483011]Wrong. Speed is speed. Period. The ability to change direction is an added feature in playing a team sport. That said adding weight can not increase speed. Unless the person just got out of a prison camp and is skin and bones.
    Bulk up to take on blockers? Great. Bulk up to get faster? Never.

    BTW, I do know a college track coach. I'll add other events to those which avoid added weight. Hurdlers, high jumpers, pole vaulters. They DO need to have the ability to adjust in the middle of performing. Coaches control the weights of these athletes.
    And coaches try to control the weight of football players who are in speed positions.[/QUOTE]

    Yeah I guess that's why world class sprinters are always so skinny...wait a minute, that's distance runners. Sprinters all seem to be muscular. That can't be right. That would mean you were wrong.

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    [QUOTE=Rexipus Rex;4483104]Of all his sacks last year, the most promising one to me was the one against the Redskins. He set up Jammal Brown with a step outside then used his hands to swim inside on him. Then not only does he get the sack he gets the FF too. I LOVE that about this guy.[/QUOTE]

    I remember one " non sack" on Brady where he basically bounce off him, and toamasina completed a pass to gronk. The added weight will definitely help him in the future in that situation.

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    [QUOTE=Jordy;4483075]I never said that adding weight could increase speed. I just don't think that 15 pounds will make a noticeable difference in Maybin's football speed. In fact, I think it will help Maybin. He'll break through blocks that before sent him off his path at a speed superior to most pass rushers.

    Calvin Johnson ran a 4.35 40 on a 239 pound frame. We know that Maybin isn't that fast nor does he need to be.[/QUOTE]

    Jordy, he posted a 40" vertical at 249lbs. There's no evidence to suggest that him playing at 240lbs is going to cost him his explosion. In fact, we already have evidence to the contrary.

    Aaron Maybin is one of the last guys that we should be worried about. (Wayne Hunter is the first guy we should be worried about).

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    [QUOTE=detectivekimble;4483358]Jordy, he posted a 40" vertical at 249lbs. There's no evidence to suggest that him playing at 240lbs is going to cost him his explosion. In fact, we already have evidence to the contrary.

    Aaron Maybin is one of the last guys that we should be worried about. (Wayne Hunter is the first guy we should be worried about).[/QUOTE]
    I agree.

    It's just the same cast of characters here who like to piss all over him.

    It's tiresome.

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    [QUOTE=Jordy;4483365]I agree.

    It's just the same cast of characters here who like to piss all over him.

    It's tiresome.[/QUOTE]

    Agreed.

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    [QUOTE=Rexipus Rex;4483104]Of all his sacks last year, the most promising one to me was the one against the Redskins. He set up Jammal Brown with a step outside then used his hands to swim inside on him. Then not only does he get the sack he gets the FF too. I LOVE that about this guy. His ability to force turnovers is a huge bonus.

    Anyway, the sack on Grossman was great to see because the book on him was a one-trick pony speed rush. Having a counter move like that (or even a spin inside) will be crucial to his continued development. Adding a few pounds of upper body strength has got to help. The question is how much of the added weight will he be able to retain during the season? D'Brick struggled with this early in his career too. Maybe with added body maturity he can keep the weight on this year or in future years.

    IMO, Maybin is an ideal landing spot. He's surrounded by great defensive coaches. He has DBs that can hold up in coverage so that even if he does overrun the pocket with his speed rush, his motor + our coverage guys sticking to their men allows him to get back in the play or hunt down the QB. At least a few of the sacks last year were a direct result of that (the sack/FF on Flacco immediately comes to mind). And finally, now we have two behemoths up the middle in Big Mo and Q to push the pocket back and attract doubles. If they leave the pocket, Mayhem hunts him down. If the QB stays in the pocket, he is going to have to sidestep and make many courageous throws in a muddied pocket to beat us. Needless to say, I'm extremely excited about these three young guys.[/QUOTE]
    The synergy of those 3 alone (QC, Mo Wilks and Mayhem) will be something to watch - and I'm very much looking forward to it. Mayhem and Sapp rushing the passer at the same time will give OC's fits

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    [QUOTE=FijiJet;4483377]The synergy of those 3 alone (QC, Mo Wilks and Mayhem) will be something to watch - and I'm very much looking forward to it. Mayhem and Sapp rushing the passer at the same time will give OC's fits[/QUOTE]

    It'll be nice with a real defense line coach to make sure they're working together, and getting Rex more involved won't hurt either. I got really tired of seeing 6 guys get bottled up by 5 last year.

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    Looks like he is back to his Combine shape. Another five pounds and he is easily an every down OLB once he learns how to set the edge and get off blocks.

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    [QUOTE=DDNYjets;4488813]Looks like he is back to his Combine shape. Another five pounds and he is easily an every down OLB once he learns how to set the edge and get off blocks.[/QUOTE]
    I'm satisfied where he's at (254), if he can maintain it.

    Ware is 260 and Wake is 250. I don't think he necessarily needs to get to 260. My concern is that he doesn't lose his burst and closing speed.

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    It's going to be extremely difficult for him to maintain that weight throughout the course of the year. If he can avoid dipping below 240, that is fine by me.

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    [QUOTE=Jordy;4488838]I'm satisfied where he's at (254), if he can maintain it.

    Ware is 260 and Wake is 250. I don't think he necessarily needs to get to 260. My concern is that he doesn't lose his burst and closing speed.[/QUOTE]

    I don't think that will be a problem.

    [QUOTE=Rexipus Rex;4488863]It's going to be extremely difficult for him to maintain that weight throughout the course of the year. If he can avoid dipping below 240, that is fine by me.[/QUOTE]

    I think can lose a lot of it if he doesnt watch himself. He seems like one of those players who loses mass during the season. I think a lot of the weight be puts on is from the supplements and protein he takes and a lot of water weight. I also think he has a hard time holding his weight naturally. He probably has a super fast metabolism. Hopefully he learns how to maintain his body weight better. Maybe they will put him on a high-calorie program during the season. He seems to lose the weight fast so he needs to take in a lot every day.

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    [QUOTE=DDNYjets;4488881]I don't think that will be a problem.



    I think can lose a lot of it if he doesnt watch himself. He seems like one of those players who loses mass during the season. I think a lot of the weight be puts on is from the supplements and protein he takes and a lot of water weight. I also think he has a hard time holding his weight naturally. He probably has a super fast metabolism. Hopefully he learns how to maintain his body weight better. Maybe they will put him on a high-calorie program during the season. He seems to lose the weight fast so he needs to take in a lot every day.[/QUOTE]

    Remember he's getting older. Metabolisms slow down with age. For most of us that's disappointing, for Maybin it will mean the struggle to keep muscle on will start to go away as his career progresses.

    It's good to see him carrying more bulk Apart from having a rough time maintaining space against huge O-linemen. The injury risk was just too high, playing LB at his size last year.

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    He has plenty of room for more size on that frame. It's so obvious that we get the safety comparisons, and it's crazy to say that it will impact his burst. Stronger legs is what he needs for burst. It may impact his agility a little, but compared to a lineman, I don't think you'd notice the difference. Improving that swim move, and adding a bull rush will make that outside move seem that much quicker to the lineman, because they won't be able to compensate for it. I don't think he has the skills to cover a TE anyway, but I'd give that possibility up for an elite pass rush. I think he'll be playing with his hand in the dirt most of the time anyway, and there he may be the most agile in the league.

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    looking forward to more Mayhem from the defense on first and second downs, not only third and long

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    he still looks like a punter

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