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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4489062]Food stamps sell for 80 cents on the dollar regardless. People sell them to buy alcohol or drugs all the time. All the lobbying in the world won't change that.

    As far as the cost of healthcare there are many reasons why it is high in America. The idea that fat people are causing high healthcare costs countrywide is not true. Smokers, obese people etc, tend to be less healthy and consume more healthcare but that doesn't address the cost of hospitilizations and procedures in the US being too high.

    Oddly the one thing the Affordable Care act did not address was the cost of healthcare. Strange considering the name of the bill.[/QUOTE]

    There is a way for technology to tie the food stamps to the end user. In my opinion as much I'm a big advocate on privacy if you are taking tax payers money you should not be opposed to finger print or retina scan.

    I can give you an example as to why medial is so high. I have lower pain so my doctor send me for an MRI. I have my MRI results and I'm told to see a specialist. I see the specialist with the MRI results and he didn't even bother to look at them and had me go for a second MRI. Who do you think pick up that tab? As a business owner that makes me sick because every year my premiums go up roughly 20%.

    Now another part of the problem is a kid graduates from medical school with avg debt of 400-500K. Im sure the reason he had me retake the MRI was so hes not worried on getting sued.

    All these are real problems we face but no one has the balls to tackle the real issues.

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    Tie food stamps to the user? Bahahahahahahahahaha. So you want the boyfriend or baby daddy or mother or grandmother or cousin or uncle or aunt to be unable to purchase things their relatives need along with other groceries for the house hold? Seems very unliberal... You don't need I.D. For WIC here in Tx, which is our version of 'food stamps'... I'd bet it's the same in the other 56 states...

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    There should be no food stamps.

    What there should be is Govt. Food Banks and a temporary State ID issued to the poor to allow them to shop there up to X dollars/week.

    The food should be as healthy as possible, but also as cheap and no-frills as possible. Taste is tertiary to nutritional content and cost. This is a free service, and it's only purpose should be to provide vital nutrition to those in need.

    There should be nothing considered unnessessary to human nutrition at the Govt. Food bank. No soda. No sugery products. No snack foods. No smokes, no alcohol of course. But no steak either. No shrimp, nothing high-end. Basic, vital, nutrition.

    Not only does this plan create jobs (public service workers workign the Food bank), but it supports the War on obesity, provides a new market for business to fill (basic, ultra-cheap but nutritional foodstuffs), and if the Govt. can do anything even mildly right, it should also take a large chunk out of abuse and fraud, as the products available are truly for nutrition, not taste, enough so that only the needy will want them.

    The purpose of the plan is to get people OFF the plan as soon as humanly possible. Failure to get off of it by the time your ID expires would engender penalties and mandatory state interviews to see what the issue is, and how the State, in it's endless wisdom, could help that individual stop being a drain on society. Failure to attend would entail termination of access to the bank permanently.

    Food, for the needy. No starving children. Hunger ended in our time. But also no room for abuse. No fraud. Job creation. New private market creation. No massive costs (or at least less). And of course no access for illegals, as citizenship is a prerequisite. And best of all a program whose only purpose other than meeting basic nutrition requirements is to get these people off welfare.

    Thats what "food stamps" should be. I'd happily support my tax money being spend on this.

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    [QUOTE=AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite;4489189]Tie food stamps to the user? Bahahahahahahahahaha. So you want the boyfriend or baby daddy or mother or grandmother or cousin or uncle or aunt to be unable to purchase things their relatives need along with other groceries for the house hold? Seems very unliberal... You don't need I.D. For WIC here in Tx, which is our version of 'food stamps'... I'd bet it's the same in the other 56 states...[/QUOTE]
    No, but prevent someone from selling their services at 50 cents to the dollar to buy drugs or alcohol.

    I agree with Warfish above.

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    [QUOTE=dmitexxi;4489177]There is a way for technology to tie the food stamps to the end user. In my opinion as much I'm a big advocate on privacy if you are taking tax payers money you should not be opposed to finger print or retina scan.

    I can give you an example as to why medial is so high. I have lower pain so my doctor send me for an MRI. I have my MRI results and I'm told to see a specialist. I see the specialist with the MRI results and he didn't even bother to look at them and had me go for a second MRI. Who do you think pick up that tab? As a business owner that makes me sick because every year my premiums go up roughly 20%.

    Now another part of the problem is a kid graduates from medical school with avg debt of 400-500K. Im sure the reason he had me retake the MRI was so hes not worried on getting sued.

    All these are real problems we face but no one has the balls to tackle the real issues.[/QUOTE]

    All true. The medical system needs to be modernized. What you just said hit a nail on the head. Doctors and specialists need to coordinate with eachother. It is better for the patients and the doctors. Why we dont have a system for patient information is beyond me. People often call it a privacy concern and that is troubling but there must be a way around that. You should have told that second doctor that you already had an MRI and got him a copy of the results.

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4489256]All true. The medical system needs to be modernized. What you just said hit a nail on the head. Doctors and specialists need to coordinate with eachother. It is better for the patients and the doctors. Why we dont have a system for patient information is beyond me. People often call it a privacy concern and that is troubling but there must be a way around that. You should have told that second doctor that you already had an MRI and got him a copy of the results.[/QUOTE]

    No one wants to pay for the system.

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