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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4487965]I'm patriotic.

    I love my secular country. And it's affinity for anything morally degrading. Porn, drugs, rock & roll. Our love with alcohol. Getting f*cked up on the weekends.

    The church-holes have it all wrong. :P It isnt Jesus and merry band of boring people that make this place great. No one comes here to take communion.[/QUOTE]


    I will give you credit for continually being one of the more amusing people on JI.
    Our love for porn and alcohol BTW hardly matches those in Europe.
    Drugs? Don't think we're a leader there as well. R&R - absolutely.

    As far as religion? I agree that religion IS NOT what makes our country great. It is the ability to practice it or whatever belief you have (within boundaries) that is important.

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    [QUOTE=palmetto defender;4487973]
    Our love for porn and alcohol BTW hardly matches those in Europe.[/QUOTE]

    Wrong.

    We use drugs and surf for porn WAY more than any country on earth.

    Go Google it.



    We're NOT a "Christian" nation. :P

    And that is what makes us great. Not this crap:

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aKFWvOot9k[/url]


    I love America. Tonight, I'm gonna take some Ecstasy with the GF and her GF.
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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4487975]
    I love America. Tonight, I'm gonna take some Ecstasy with the GF and her GF.[/QUOTE]

    You can send me that RT link later then... Just stay out of the frame... :cool:

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    [QUOTE=kennyo7;4487972]You forgot to mention that you are faster, stronger, and better in bed, lol!
    Amazing how great you can be on a message board, isnt it?
    Your response tells me all i neef to know about you. You are a cartoon character.


    What makes you so patriotic[/QUOTE]


    Actually I am probably no longer faster but I guarantee I once was. And stronger and tougher. I do not discuss sex as I believe that is uncouth. Feel free on your part - it's just another indicator of your caliber.

    As far as patriotism? It's pride and support for my country. Including serving it.
    What you need to know about me is I am your superior as a human being.

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4487975]Wrong.

    We use drugs and surf for porn WAY more than any country on earth.

    Go Google it.



    We're NOT a "Christian" nation. :P

    And that is what makes us great. Not this crap:

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aKFWvOot9k[/url]


    I love America. Tonight, I'm gonna take some Ecstasy with the GF and her GF.[/QUOTE]

    PK, you been to Holland or Denmark? Mucho public porn. Drugs abound throughout Europe. Alcohol? We're not in the top 40. Really.

    Ecstasy? Figured you'd be a meth guy living out there in the southern tier.

    I am not a fan of televangelists either but it's sonme people's thing.

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    [QUOTE=PlumberKhan;4487975]Wrong.

    We use drugs and surf for porn WAY more than any country on earth.

    Go Google it.



    We're NOT a "Christian" nation. :P

    And that is what makes us great. Not this crap:

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aKFWvOot9k[/url]


    I love America. Tonight, I'm gonna take some Ecstasy with the GF and her GF.[/QUOTE]

    Malaysia and Pakistan have led the world in porn surfing.

    Could be due to their secular society.

    Enjoy the cuckolding!

    And the illegal drugs bought with my tax $!

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    Everybody RELAX! Eric Holder is all over this. He's appointed people that are completely unbiased, like he is, and the 9/1 Comission was. We're good.

    [url]http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/08/12130882-attorney-general-holder-names-2-prosecutors-to-investigate-possible-leaks?lite[/url]


    Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. on Friday appointed two United States attorneys to investigate possible unauthorized disclosures of classified information from the White House and Congress.

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    The appointment came the day President Barack Obama at a news conference rebutted accusations that his administration leaked information about a terrorist “kill list” and cyber warfare to make himself look tough in an election year.
    Holder issued a statement saying Ronald C. Machen Jr., the attorney for the District of Columbia, and Rod J. Rosenstein, from the District of Maryland, will lead separate criminal investigations already under way by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
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    “The unauthorized disclosure of classified information can compromise the security of this country and all Americans, and it will not be tolerated,” Holder said in the statement.
    “Machen and Rosenstein are fully authorized to prosecute criminal violations discovered as a result of their investigations and matters related to those violations, consult with members of the Intelligence Community and follow all appropriate investigative leads within the Executive and Legislative branches of government,” Holder said.
    The accusations about the Obama leaks surfaced in two articles in The New York Times last week.
    Obama on Friday said that such leaks dealt with the safety of the American people, its military and its allies.
    "The notion that my White House would purposely release classified national security information is offensive," he said. "It's wrong and people I think need to have a better sense of how I approach this office."
    On Capitol Hill, a lawmaker said there were indications a high-level individual was involved in the media disclosures.
    "Someone from a very senior clearance level has provided information, that's very clear in the preliminary review," Rep. Mike Rogers, the Republican chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, told Reuters.
    Rogers did not speculate on who the leaker might be.
    The top Democrat on the House intelligence committee, C.A. "Dutch" Ruppersberger, said he did not believe anyone had been targeted in early investigations into the leaks.
    The recent spate of disclosures included the revelation that a plot by the Yemen branch of Al Qaeda to bomb an airliner had been foiled because of penetration by a double agent, details about the joint American-Israeli computer virus called Stuxnet that sabotaged Iran’s nuclear centrifuges, and an account of Mr. Obama’s role in approving a “kill list” of terrorism suspects for drone strikes, The New York Times reported.

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4487274]The uproar in Congress includes both sides of the Capitol and both sides of the aisle. Lawmakers are making furious calls for FBI investigations and for tightening up the nation’s espionage laws. The reason: a spate of New York Times articles and a new book by its chief Washington correspondent, David Sanger. Last Friday, Sanger revealed a state secret that is arguably more sensitive than any other state secret that has been revealed since the Rosenbergs tipped off Stalin about the American atomic bomb. Sanger’s new book reveals that the Obama White House is conducting a coordinated campaign of industrial sabotage against Iran by means of cyber weapons. Remember the Stuxnet virus or the more sophisticated worm known as Flame? According to Sanger, all were components of an American government plan to sabotage the Iranian nuclear program. Or as Pogo famously pointed out: “We have met the enemy and he is us.”

    The foreseeable harm done by Sanger and his Times colleagues now includes the likelihood of Iranian retaliation because industrial sabotage, like blockades and air raids, are acts of war. You might remember how, earlier this year, the Iranians forced down our beyond-top-secret spy drone, apparently by spoofing its GPS system. Given the sloppy condition of our cyber defenses, the mullahs must surely be contemplating retaliation, say against the notoriously computer-dependent American infrastructure. Could Iran really do that? Obama’s own cyber-czars have long acknowledged our vulnerabilities to such attacks. Although few Americans now realize it, The New York Times has brought us closer to another horrific day like 9/11, when the lights go out, the ATMs don’t work and the gas pumps at the local filling station aren’t open.

    But there is an even deeper internal security issue: How far does the First Amendment extend today — or has it become the suicide pact of the 21st century? Does the “public’s right to know” mean that the press can freely compromise secrets directly affecting the nation’s survival? To begin with, remember that the secrets betrayed by The New York Times were not the property of the White House, the National Security Council, the Pentagon or the 14 alphabetical agencies comprising our intelligence establishment. Instead, those secrets were owned by the American people, who rely on their government to protect those crown jewels, which are essential to both the common defense and the general welfare.

    So what do we do about Sanger and The New York Times — or a White House leaking like a sieve since Inauguration Day? This may be a moment to make haste slowly, to re-establish a badly frayed bipartisan consensus and make better sense of the nation’s rapidly changing, information-age interests. The appropriate place to begin is in the House, specifically the House Armed Services and Government Oversight Committees. Those committees should adopt the RICO model (used to crack organized crime conspiracies) and use the FBI to pin down how the secrets were leaked. Sanger, his source and their co-conspirators are now profiting in various ways from the sale of American secrets. So why not use a RICO approach to fix responsibility: Who leaked, who conspired and, most of all, qui bono?

    That’s an appropriate response considering that the stakes are as high as the offices of the likely leakers. Like Thomas Donilon, for example, the current national security advisor. Both in Sanger’s book and Bob Woodward’s Obama’s Wars, Donilon is conspicuous for his rigorous self-promotion and hyper-political willingness to force the national security establishment to hew the administration line. You never know the facts until you do the investigation: But Donilon’s West Wing office is a good place to begin. As a young officer investigating security crimes in the Army equivalent of the FBI, I learned a vital lesson: Conspiracies break only when you give people compelling reasons to tell the truth.



    Read more: [url]http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/07/exposing-the-new-york-times-sins/#ixzz1xDEmVJXp[/url][/QUOTE]

    That's some fine journalism by the New York Times.

    This "it threatens national security" argument is a joke. That same accusation could be hurled at so many in the news media for any number of stories - reporting on the Navy Seal raid, reporting on drone strikes, cheerleading for an unnecessary war, reporting on border weaknesses.

    We have free press in this country, and I'd rather them be reporting on what we're doing that might affect me, like this story, than the Kardashins, political theatre or steroids in sports.

    But the price you pay, is that because it's free, they will mostly talk about the Kardashins, and every once in a while the press will make it harder on the CIA to do their business without the rest of the country ever knowing.

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    [QUOTE=AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite;4487976]You can send me that RT link later then... Just stay out of the frame... :cool:[/QUOTE]

    LMAO!! the GF got a kick out of that :) Last weekend of college...woot! woot!

    [QUOTE=palmetto]Ecstasy? Figured you'd be a meth guy living out there in the southern tier.[/QUOTE]

    lol wut?

    You should try it sometime, Palmetto. You and your wife's relationship will never be the same. Trust me.

    With the kids grown up and moved away from home especially. :yes: it'll be like you both are in your 20's again....

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    [QUOTE=Jungle Shift Jet;4487989]Malaysia and Pakistan have led the world in porn surfing.
    [/QUOTE]

    lmao....


    Let's see what FlushingJet googles.......







































    I wont post it....I have standards....

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4487294]You are wrong as usual. The existence of the Stuxnet was known. Who unleashed it was never known. There was some speculation.
    .[/QUOTE]

    My money was on Norway. :rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=kennyo7;4487944]Patriotism! What a joke. What the fk is patriotism? A term inbred uneducated rednecks use to make themselves feel better about their meaningless existence. Only idiots take pride in their living on land between man made boundaries. Patriotism, hah, what a joke. Almost as stupid as religion.[/QUOTE]

    Quite simply one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen. And given some of the posts here, that says a LOT.

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    [QUOTE=kennyo7;4487944]Patriotism! What a joke. What the fk is patriotism? A term inbred uneducated rednecks use to make themselves feel better about their meaningless existence. Only idiots take pride in their living on land between man made boundaries. Patriotism, hah, what a joke. Almost as stupid as religion.[/QUOTE]

    For any Obama fans here please read the above quote from Kenyo. This is the ilk you are throwing your lot in with when you support Barry. This is a person that does not appreciate the principals of our founders. The people that gave us the most free and prosperous society in history. For Kenyo and his ilk this is a joke. The constitution is an old and outdated relic best left for the history book. The sacrifices of the soldiers and generals that have fought to keep our country free is worthless to scum like this guy.

    Thank you for your post. I hope someone here takes note and reposts this quote anytime and every time you spew your opinions here. In short you make me sick.

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4488048]For any Obama fans here please read the above quote from Kenyo. This is the ilk you are throwing your lot in with when you support Barry. This is a person that does not appreciate the principals of our founders. The people that gave us the most free and prosperous society in history. For Kenyo and his ilk this is a joke. The constitution is an old and outdated relic best left for the history book. The sacrifices of the soldiers and generals that have fought to keep our country free is worthless to scum like this guy.

    Thank you for your post. I hope someone here takes note and reposts this quote anytime and every time you spew your opinions here. In short you make me sick.[/QUOTE]

    We have providers and creaters and we have users and takers. I wonder which lot he belongs to.

    Govt is here to serve him....... What a sad state of affairs our young are in many cases.

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    Actions speak louder than words. Pretending to understand the Constitition isn't being a Patriot.


    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4488048]For any Obama fans here please read the above quote from Kenyo. This is the ilk you are throwing your lot in with when you support Barry. This is a person that does not appreciate the principals of our founders. The people that gave us the most free and prosperous society in history. For Kenyo and his ilk this is a joke. The constitution is an old and outdated relic best left for the history book. The sacrifices of the soldiers and generals that have fought to keep our country free is worthless to scum like this guy.

    Thank you for your post. I hope someone here takes note and reposts this quote anytime and every time you spew your opinions here. In short you make me sick.[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4488069]Actions speak louder than words. Pretending to understand the Constitition isn't being a Patriot.[/QUOTE]

    I am now going to use Kenya's words to respond to your post. This is the ilk you have thrown your hat in to the ring with:

    Originally Posted by kennyo7
    Patriotism! What a joke. What the fk is patriotism? A term inbred uneducated rednecks use to make themselves feel better about their meaningless existence. Only idiots take pride in their living on land between man made boundaries. Patriotism, hah, what a joke. Almost as stupid as religion

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4488103]I am now going to use Kenya's words to respond to your post. This is the ilk you have thrown your hat in to the ring with:

    Originally Posted by kennyo7
    Patriotism! What a joke. What the fk is patriotism? A term inbred uneducated rednecks use to make themselves feel better about their meaningless existence. Only idiots take pride in their living on land between man made boundaries. Patriotism, hah, what a joke. Almost as stupid as religion[/QUOTE]

    Answer this question. What is patriotic?
    A. Posting on JI
    B. Serving in the military.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4488112]Answer this question. What is patriotic?
    A. Posting on JI
    B. Serving in the military.[/QUOTE]

    There is nothing more patriotic then serving in the military. What does that have to do with a newspaper or a reporter or an administration revealing national secrets that put our military and intelligence and citizenry at risk?

    How does any of that relate to our resident socialist posting the following:

    Originally Posted by kennyo7
    Patriotism! What a joke. What the fk is patriotism? A term inbred uneducated rednecks use to make themselves feel better about their meaningless existence. [B]Only idiots take pride in their living on land between man made boundaries.[/B] Patriotism, hah, what a joke. Almost as stupid as religion

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    [QUOTE=palmetto defender;4487956]I am neither inbred nor a redneck. My education is, without a doubt, infinitely better than yours. I am richer, have better children and a better looking and more intelligent wife (if a woman has chosen to even be with you). My existence to this point has hardly been insignificant and I have influenced in a positive way the live's of many people.
    That said,[B] I AM PATRIOTIC[/B]. AND I DO TAKE PRIDE IN IT.
    You are the joke. As far as religion? We can practice what we believe. People of a lower caliber (perhaps you) can deride. But that is what one can expect from a low class person., Can you be classified as a person.[/QUOTE]

    have better children?

    Are you serious with this crap.

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4488048]For any Obama fans here please read the above quote from Kenyo. This is the ilk you are throwing your lot in with when you support Barry.[/QUOTE]

    Chief, you are a little smarter than this.

    If someone chooses to support BO, they are not throwing their lot in with Kenyo.


    This place is becoming a joke.

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