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Thread: Did the NY Times Commit Treason when they Printed National Security Leaks?

  1. #61
    [QUOTE=FF2®;4488118]Chief, you are a little smarter than this.

    If someone chooses to support BO, they are not throwing their lot in with Kenyo.


    This place is becoming a joke.[/QUOTE]

    You have two libs on here defending his point of view. FF I actually appreciate you as a poster here. When you want to you can provide a reasonable perspective. I think that if we knew each other personally we'd be friends. The thing is that I personally believe that Barack Obamas beliefs are closer to Kenyo's then they are to yours. You may disagree but for me that is what I believe.

  2. #62
    [QUOTE=kennyo7;4487944]Patriotism! What a joke. What the fk is patriotism? A term inbred uneducated rednecks use to make themselves feel better about their meaningless existence. Only idiots take pride in their living on land between man made boundaries. Patriotism, hah, what a joke. Almost as stupid as religion.[/QUOTE]

    It's refreshing to see this kind of honesty, tbqh.

    I may disagree with Ken often, but to his repeated credit, at least he's generally honest about his liberal/progressive/socialist ideals.

    In this case, it's no suprise he has a venemous disdain for national pride or Nationalism in any form. As a Utopian Socialist, I had no doubt that Ken belived in the old Marxist ideas of world socialism overcoming nationalism in all it's forms.

    You'll find alot of Ken here: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Marxist[/url]

  3. #63
    When Congress declares war on Iran you can make the argument about treason. Until that time I want the Times and every other news corporation making the case against illegal, undeclared wars by Presidential fiat.

    Cyber-attacks by any government in today’s world are an act of war. If Iran's policy is a threat to the US and the President wants to make the case for war take it to the Congress and the People.
    Last edited by Winstonbiggs; 06-10-2012 at 06:04 AM.

  4. #64
    [QUOTE=Winstonbiggs;4488183]When Congress declares war on Iran you can make the argument about treason. Until that time I want the Times and every other news corporation making the case against illegal, undeclared wars by Presidential fiat.

    Cyber-attacks by any government in today’s world are an act of war. If Iran's policy is a threat to the US and the President wants to make the case for war take it to the Congress and the People.[/QUOTE]

    +100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

    :yes:

  5. #65
    [QUOTE=kennyo7;4487944]Patriotism! What a joke. What the fk is patriotism? A term inbred uneducated rednecks use to make themselves feel better about their meaningless existence. Only idiots take pride in their living on land between man made boundaries. Patriotism, hah, what a joke. Almost as stupid as religion.[/QUOTE]

    while I do not agree with the inbred adjective and faith is important to me, you make a good point. In fact what you are trying to express was said a few years back by a pretty decent songwriter;

    [I]Imagine there's no heaven
    It's easy if you try
    No hell below us
    Above us only sky
    Imagine all the people
    Living for today...
    [B]Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too[/B]
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace...
    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope someday you'll join us
    And the world will be as one
    Imagine no possessions
    I wonder if you can
    No need for greed or hunger
    A brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people
    Sharing all the world...
    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope someday you'll join us
    And the world will live as one[/I]

    In my opinion there is a difference between national pride and nationalism just like there is a difference between having faith in God and organized religion. The former is something to respect and appreciate; the latter can be used to manipulate and twist the herd.
    Last edited by intelligentjetsfan; 06-10-2012 at 06:36 AM.

  6. #66
    I served and kennyo served too. Were you screaming from the rooftops when Dicky C outed Plame? The reporter is not committing treason, the govt official who leaked the info is breaking the law.




    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4488114]There is nothing more patriotic then serving in the military. What does that have to do with a newspaper or a reporter or an administration revealing national secrets that put our military and intelligence and citizenry at risk?

    How does any of that relate to our resident socialist posting the following:

    Originally Posted by kennyo7
    Patriotism! What a joke. What the fk is patriotism? A term inbred uneducated rednecks use to make themselves feel better about their meaningless existence. [B]Only idiots take pride in their living on land between man made boundaries.[/B] Patriotism, hah, what a joke. Almost as stupid as religion[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4488186]while I do not agree with the inbred adjective and faith is important to me, you make a good point. In fact what you are trying to express was said a few years back by a pretty decent songwriter;

    [I]Imagine there's no heaven
    It's easy if you try
    No hell below us
    Above us only sky
    Imagine all the people
    Living for today...
    [B]Imagine there's no countries
    It isn't hard to do
    Nothing to kill or die for
    And no religion too[/B]
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace...
    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope someday you'll join us
    And the world will be as one
    Imagine no possessions
    I wonder if you can
    No need for greed or hunger
    A brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people
    Sharing all the world...
    You may say I'm a dreamer
    But I'm not the only one
    I hope someday you'll join us
    And the world will live as one[/I]
    [/QUOTE]


    Dude, you are a caricature.

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    [QUOTE=intelligentjetsfan;4488186]
    And no religion too[/QUOTE]


    "I'm a regular god

    with a regular job.

    I sit on my a**, while people kill in my name.

    Don't do nothing about it...

    cause that would be hard.

    I'm a god-hole, I'm a god-hole":

    [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_KDAicF0Yo[/url]
    Last edited by PlumberKhan; 06-10-2012 at 12:50 PM.

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