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    Republicans are Traitors & Guilty of Sedition. So Says DailyKOS and "Left" Radio

    [QUOTE]Fri Jun 08, 2012 at 08:15 AM PDT.

    [B][U]Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan & Kevin McCarthy: Plot To Sabotage US Economy with Frank Luntz[/U][/B]

    On January 20, 2009 Republican Leaders in Congress literally plotted to sabotage and undermine U.S. Economy during President Obama's Inauguration.

    In Robert Draper's book, "Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives" Draper wrote that during a four hour, "invitation only" meeting with GOP Hate-Propaganda Minister, Frank Luntz, the below listed Senior GOP Law Writers literally plotted to sabotage, undermine and destroy America's Economy.


    The Guest List:
    Frank Luntz - GOP Minister of Propaganda
    Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)
    Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA)
    Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA),
    Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX),
    Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-TX),
    Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI)
    Rep. Dan Lungren (R-CA),
    Sen. Jim DeMint (SC-R),
    Sen. Jon Kyl (AZ-R),
    Sen. Tom Coburn (OK-R),
    Sen. John Ensign (NV-R) and
    Sen. Bob Corker (TN-R).
    Non-lawmakers present Newt Gingrich

    During the four hour meeting:

    The senior GOP members plotted to bring Congress to a standstill regardless how much it would hurt the American Economy by pledging to obstruct and block President Obama on all legislation.

    These Republican members of Congress were not simply airing their complaints regarding the other party's political platform for four long hours. No, these Republican Congressional Policymakers, who were elected to do 'the People's work' were literally plotting to sabotage, undermine and destroy the U.S. Economy.

    Mitt Romney, who has hired most of Bush/Cheney Policy Advisers, and the GOP party believe they can defeat President Obama, take control of the Senate and maintaining control of the House of Representatives so long as the economic recovery stalls. So they are actively trying to make it happen ... and that's what hate-propaganda Minister Frank Luntz had in mind when he organized the January 20, 2009 covert meeting.

    Republicans do not pay Frank Luntz to offer ideas for good policy to help America, rather, Republicans pay Luntz' to devise lies that will keep Americans dumb and ignorant to facts on policy. For decades Republicans have paid Frank Luntz to tell them (Republicans) what to say in order to brainwash 'the People' with lies and hate to destroy policy.

    Luntz does not use words to merely have Americans "change their minds." Rather, Frank Luntz uses words intentionally to dumb-down Americans and fill them with lies and hate so as to brainwash and program Americans to hate a given policy.

    Frank Luntz, like many Hate-Propaganda Ministers, loathes the notion of honesty in debate. Also, like many Hate-Propaganda Ministers, Frank Luntz wants total control ... total control even it if means destroying America. So, Luntz uses the tactics similar to Joseph Goebbels: spread hate, lies and fear in order to gain control. (More on Frank Luntz at the end of this Diary).

    Remember, for months prior to January 20, 2009, America had been losing over 750,000 jobs per month because of policies these same elected Republican lawmakers had enacted and their goal, their goal that night, was to plot ways to sabotage and undermine any and all legislation that would pull American families up and out of the economic calamity they [lawmakers] had helped create.

    Two months after their covert meeting where they plotted to sabotage the US Economy, in March 2009, Rep. Pete Sessions said Republicans should follow the model of the Taliban in its battles against President Obama.

    In the March 2009 interview with National Journal Rep Sessions said:

    "Taliban Insurgency, we understand perhaps a little bit more because of the Taliban. Insurgency is the way they went about systematically understanding how to disrupt and change a person's entire processes. And these Taliban -- is an example of how you go about to change a person from their messaging to their operations to their frontline message. And we need to understand that Insurgency may be required when [dealing with] the other side"

    ~Rep Pete Sessions, March 2009 to National Journal

    Rep Pete Sessions went on to say:

    "If they [democrats] do not give us those options or opportunities then we will then become Insurgency ... I think Insurgency is a mindset and an attitude that we're going to have to search for and find ways to get our message out and to be prepared to see things for what they are, rather than trying to do something about them"

    Also, at their meeting they plotted to suddenly stop supporting any Stimulus Legislation, even though, they all supported Bush/Cheney Stimulus legislation.

    At the meeting, Rep Kevin McCarthy said,

    "We've gotta challenge them on every single bill."

    "Show united and unyielding opposition to the president’s economic policies."

    Remember, these same Republican members of Congress supported the very Bush/Cheney policies that caused America to teeter on the brink of the 2nd Great Depression and caused the 2007 US Economic Meltdown.

    Here's how they all voted:
    -- "Yes" to Bush/Cheney January 2008 Stimulus
    -- "Yes" to Bush/Cheney bailing out Bear Stern
    -- "Yes" to Bush/Cheney bailing out AIG
    -- "Yes" to Bush/Cheney TARP (sept 2008)
    -- "Yes" to Bush/Cheney TARP (oct 2008)

    And these same Republican members of Congress:
    Supported Bush/Cheney keeping cost of two wars out of the Budget.
    Supported Bush/Cheney spending $4Trillion while giving Top 1% Tax Cuts; ignoring the fact that taxes pay for wars.

    Not only did these Senior members of Congress plot to destroy the American Economy more than it already was destroyed? They actually carried out their mission:

    Every one of these Senior members of Congress have threatened Government Shutdown over things like:

    - Funding planned parenthood,

    - Raising the Debt Ceiling which, in-and-of-itself, would cause US Economic turmoil.

    ... oh, and stay current, these same House GOP members of Congress are still, today, threatening a Government Shutdown again over the Debt Ceiling.

    Last year, during the Debt Ceiling negotiations, Eric Cantor and Sen. Jon Kyl abruptly walked out of negotiations and refused to renew discussions with Democrats. As a result, America's credit rating was lowered which put a smile on Republican's faces.


    Senators: Jim DeMint, Jon Kyl, Tom Coburn, John Ensign, and Bob Corker have:

    - Filibustered more Bills (over 300) than any Congress combined in US History.

    - Voted NO on every single piece of Legislation brought to the Floor including:
    NO on Al Franken's Anti-Rape Amendment,
    NO on Lilly Ledbetter,
    NO on Fair Pay Act,
    NO on Anti-Outsourcing Bill (2010)

    How in the hell could any thinking American be against those Bills?

    Seriously?!?

    Representatives: Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor, Kevin McCarthy, Rep. Pete Sessions, Jeb Hensarling, Pete Hoekstra and Dan Lungren have voted NO on every single piece of Legislation including:

    NO on increasing FEMA during natural disasters.

    These same failed Congressmen have been on tv constantly chanting the lie that they were guilty of ... the lie that "President Obama's policies undermine the US Economy."

    Currently: Republicans Using the Transportation Bill to Sabotage the US Economy:

    If the current Transportation Bill expires June 30, there will be no funding for transportation projects and 1.9 million construction workers would lose their jobs. Eric Cantor and Republicans in the House are refusing to act because Republicans would be overjoyed if almost two million Americans were added to the unemployment rolls this summer before the election.

    Other Legislation used to sabotage US Economy

    Republicans in Congress refused to negotiate or even discuss passing President Obama's American Jobs Act that independent economists claim would create 1.3 million new jobs. God forbid Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan or Kevin McCarthy support an actual Bill that would put people to work building needed infrastructure and provide funds to pay to rehire hundreds of thousands of teachers, firefighters, police officers and other public service workers that have been laid off in droves by cash-starved states.

    Republicans are gearing up block President Obama's 2012 Anti-Outsourcing Bill - which is a Bill to discourage the outsourcing of American jobs, which is due to come to the Senate floor around the fourth of July.

    The Washington Post reports that Republicans have made it clear that the Federal Reserve would face fierce Republican criticism if it takes further actions to stimulate the economy before the election. The Washington Post wrote that,

    Republicans... have expressed deep concern about measures taken by the Fed to support the economy -- and could be doubly upset if new efforts goose the stock market and are perceived to work in favor of President Obama's re-election.

    Frank Luntz

    Like I said above, Republicans do not pay Luntz to offer ideas for good policy to help America, rather, Republicans pay Luntz' to devise lies will keep Americans dumb and ignorant to facts on policy. For decades Republicans have paid Frank Luntz to tell them (Republicans) what to say in order to brainwash 'the People' with lies and hate to destroy policy.

    Luntz is so good at lying, he even lies to himself. In order to blur reality and not take responsibility for his devising the spread of propaganda through hate and lies Luntz told Matt Lauer

    "I focus on words that cause people to change their minds, change their behavior even change their attitudes."

    ~Frank Luntz 3/2011 in interview with Matt Lauer

    No, Luntz is not using words to merely have Americans "change their minds" --
    Luntz is using words intentionally to dumb-down Americans and fill them with lies and hate so as to brainwash and program Americans to hate a given policy.

    Luntz has been the Republican Hate-Propaganda Minister since at least 1993 and his list of words to stop policies that help America are vast:

    Don’t say “oil drilling.” Say “energy independence.”

    Don’t say “inheritance tax.” Say “death tax.”

    Don't say "Capitalism." Say "Economic Freedom."

    Don't say that the government 'taxes the rich.' Say Government "takes from the rich."

    Don't admit Lobbyists are Collective Bargainers for Corporations. Say "Union Collective Bargaining steals your tax dollars."

    Luntz says people hate government so:

    Don’t say “healthcare reform.” Say “government takeover.”

    Don't say "Public workers." Call them "Government workers."

    For the 2012 election, Frank Luntz is training his failed co-harts in the Republican party on what Luntz says are "the three most powerful words to use" to con people is: "I get it."

    Luntz says:

    Don't tell Occupy Wall Street "you don't give a ****." Say "I get it."

    Don't tell struggling Americans "you're on your own." Say "I get it."

    Don't tell Occupy Wall Street "you should protest Wall Street." Say "You should occupy the White House."

    Yes, it is true, the House Republican Leaders: Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan and Kevin McCarthy met in secret and plotted to sabotage and undermine the US Economy ... I call them TRAITORS TO AMERICA.

    So, the next time you hear the GOP say "Obama wants to destroy the economy" or "Government Shutdown" ... remember ... as Newt Gingrich said after their four hour dinner on January 20, 2009 "You’ll remember this as the day the seeds of 2012 were sown."

    To Translate GINGRICH:

    "You'll remember this day as they day we became Traitors to the United States."

    My hope is that Americans and all members of Congress are reminded via twitter, facebook and all other forms of media over and over and over:

    [B][U]Republican Leaders in Congress literally plotted to sabotage the US Economy on January 20, 2009. [/U][/B][/QUOTE]

    There you have it. Massive Right Wing Conspiracy to Destroy America and Racistly Destroy Obama is go.

    It certainly isn't a disagreement over policy or a desire to win the next election.

    It's cleary a bag o' Traitors. Thats wht theradio told me, and I BELIEVE it!:yes:
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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4489217]There you have it. Massive Right Wing Conspiracy to Destroy America and Racistly Destroy Obama is go.

    It certainly isn't a disagreement over policy or a desire to win the next election.

    It's cleary a bag o' Traitors. Thats wht theradio told me, and I BELIEVE it!:yes:[/QUOTE]

    Who wrote that? "the left"? :confused:

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    Luntz the focus group guy? Compared to Goebels? LOL

    I once went to one of his focus groups. They do them for different consumer products. Got a crisp $100 for my participation.

    By the way if Luntz is Goebels what does that make Chuck "the word of the day is extremist" Schumer?
    Last edited by chiefst2000; 06-11-2012 at 08:35 PM.

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    [QUOTE=FF2®;4489242]Who wrote that? "the left"? :confused:[/QUOTE]

    The article is on DailyKOS.

    The book is written by someone named Robert Draper.

    I first heard it on Thom Hartman, the Lefty Sean Hannity competitor.

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    Hey Obama says the private sector is doing fine, but the states need to hire more union workers. Please tell me this man has a clue about anything.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4489282]The article is on DailyKOS.

    The book is written by someone named Robert Draper.

    I first heard it on Thom Hartman, the Lefty Sean Hannity competitor.[/QUOTE]

    Thanks! So the author is "the Left" you speak of?
    Last edited by FF2®; 06-11-2012 at 09:57 PM.

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    [QUOTE=FF2®;4489339]Thanks! So the author is "the Left" you speak of?[/QUOTE]

    Both DailyKOS and Hartman claim to speak for much of the Left, yes.

    Like Muslims and terrorists, it's up to YOU to denounce those on your side claiming to speak for you, if you don't agree.

    Consider your nit well picked, tho.;)

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4489352]Both DailyKOS and Hartman claim to speak for much of the Left, yes.

    Like Muslims and terrorists, it's up to YOU to denounce those on your side claiming to speak for you, if you don't agree.

    Consider your nit well picked, tho.;)[/QUOTE]

    no, it's not really.

    it's up to you to post who wrote the article instead of saying "so says the left"

    Or should I post a Rush clip and say he speaks for "the right"

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    LOL. Hope this goes viral. So transparently desperate.

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    [QUOTE=JetPotato;4489363]LOL. Hope this goes viral. So transparently desperate.[/QUOTE]

    It's from a sh1tty book released 2 months ago. I think he rips some Dems too.

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    [QUOTE=FF2®;4489360]no, it's not really.

    it's up to you to post who wrote the article instead of saying "so says the left"

    Or should I post a Rush clip and say he speaks for "the right"[/QUOTE]

    Becuse no one here, or anywhere, EVER says FOXNews, Rush, Hannity or any number of Right-Wing WebSites, Authors or Newspapers speak for the right.

    Right?

    Nice try FF, I'm not see easily trolled these days. Source was cited, they are leftist, take it as it comes or not. No skin off my back either way tbqh.;)

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4489376]Becuse no one here, or anywhere, EVER says FOXNews, Rush, Hannity or any number of Right-Wing WebSites, Authors or Newspapers speak for the right.

    Right?

    Nice try FF, I'm not see easily trolled these days. Source was cited, they are leftist, take it as it comes or not. No skin off my back either way tbqh.;)[/QUOTE]

    To be fair to FF I'm sure he doesnt think that way. Actually most of the classic democrats don't. This is the rhetoric of the progressive left. The Nancy Pelosi's, Howard Dean's and Barack Obama's of the world fall in that category. They took advantage of the housing collapse to hijack the party. Barack did so in disguise as he ran on a centerist platform but has governed from the far left economicaly. The Clintonian style classic liberalism is in the shadows right now. Clinton himself had said that the era of Tax and spend Democrats is over. FF falls more in to that category from what I've seen.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4489376]Becuse no one here, or anywhere, EVER says FOXNews, Rush, Hannity or any number of Right-Wing WebSites, Authors or Newspapers speak for the right.

    Right?

    Nice try FF, I'm not see easily trolled these days. Source was cited, they are leftist, take it as it comes or not. No skin off my back either way tbqh.;)[/QUOTE]

    Honestly not tying to troll (anymore). And lets say you are right, in that someone else says Rush speaks for the Right. So now you are simply doing the same for "your side." I think of you as more reasoned and not just the knee jerk type like that. Your whole repetitive collectivism thing seems out of character. I liked reading your stuff because you used to not be the "MY SIDE! MY SIDE! MY SIDE!" guy. And I know you don't give a **** how I feel.

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4489385]To be fair to FF I'm sure he doesnt think that way. Actually most of the classic democrats don't. This is the rhetoric of the progressive left. The Nancy Pelosi's, Howard Dean's and Barack Obama's of the world fall in that category. They took advantage of the housing collapse to hijack the party. Barack did so in disguise as he ran on a centerist platform but has governed from the far left economicaly. The Clintonian style classic liberalism is in the shadows right now. Clinton himself had said that the era of Tax and spend Democrats is over. FF falls more in to that category from what I've seen.[/QUOTE]

    You are a Hannity and Rush parrot.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4489633]You are a Hannity and Rush parrot.[/QUOTE]

    Or maybe Hannity and Rush are simply correct as I am. By the way Joe Lieberman called, he wants his Democratic Party back.

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4489661]Or maybe Hannity and Rush are simply arrogant as I am. By the way Joe Lieberman called, he wants his Democratic Party back.[/QUOTE]

    As a registered Independent I like Lieberman, although his backing for creating Homeland Security is not a bright spot.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4489710]As a registered Independent I like Lieberman, although his backing for creating Homeland Security is not a bright spot.[/QUOTE]

    Independents for Terror...not as catchy as Jews for Jihad or Independents for Obama

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    [QUOTE=FF2®;4489625]Honestly not tying to troll (anymore).[/quote]

    Indeed, for what's it worth, you've been far more enjoyable to read and converse with of late.

    [quote]And lets say you are right, in that someone else says Rush speaks for the Right. So now you are simply doing the same for "your side." I think of you as more reasoned and not just the knee jerk type like that. Your whole repetitive collectivism thing seems out of character. I liked reading your stuff because you used to not be the "MY SIDE! MY SIDE! MY SIDE!" guy. And I know you don't give a **** how I feel.[/QUOTE]

    I think it's a bit of a nit-pick, but I can gree that just because one of the biggest and most popular liberal activist sites, and one of the higher rated liberal radio shows covers something and claims something, it does not, in fact, speak for the entire "left".

    With that said....

    DailyKOS and Hartman both claim to speak for the left/progressives in much the same manner as Rush and Hannity claims to speak (sort of) for Conservatives.

    The problem is one of accurate descriptors in an environment where no one wants to be described by terms they don't like, no one wants to be generaized, everyone claims they're "not left/right/whatever" when it suits them, etc, etc, etc.

    It makes communicing far more diffiuclt tbqh.

    But if it makezs that much a difference, I will edit the Thread Title to more accurate cover the point.:D And I do care what you think FF, or I wouldn't reply and you'd still be on ignore.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4489775]
    The problem is one of accurate descriptors in an environment where no one wants to be described by terms they don't like, no one wants to be generaized, everyone claims they're "not left/right/whatever" when it suits them, etc, etc, etc.

    It makes communicing far more diffiuclt tbqh.[/QUOTE]

    Agreed. Its just that these handles are almost meaningless these days.

    Even the words "liberal" and "conservative" have been rendered almost meaningless because of the incorrect associations attributed to then.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4489217]There you have it. Massive Right Wing Conspiracy to Destroy America and Racistly Destroy Obama is go.

    It certainly isn't a disagreement over policy or a desire to win the next election.

    It's cleary a bag o' Traitors. Thats wht theradio told me, and I BELIEVE it!:yes:[/QUOTE]

    can I get this on the Kindle? Seems like good beach reading. :cool:

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