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  1. #21
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    [QUOTE=JStokes;4491348]I would totally double down.

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    I would bet big, cuz you look a little short.

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    [QUOTE=FF2;4491363]I would bet big, cuz you look a little short.[/QUOTE]

    Are you saying he's the little blind and has a small stack?

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    [QUOTE=thebigragu;4490685]I used to have about three sites I played on after the initial assault. Betonline cashed me out. Party poker would break my legs if they could.

    Bodog seemed the best and I was sure it would return once again but not happening it seems. I still have fairly hefty bankrolls in that site but cant cash out, they say it will transfer over when this all passes or they setup a new site to make it kinda legal.

    Any new sites as of march 2012 anyone playing on?


    please add away to thread title between gone... for / but you wont.[/QUOTE]


    You didn't move over to Bovada.LV when Bodog.com closed?

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    [QUOTE=BushyTheBeaver;4491168]The new jobs would be a small handful of programmers plus a few techs to maintain the servers. Taxes. Yeah, well, OK. But it probably won't come close to compensating for the fact that daddy's little addiction will now be capable of blowing the mortgage even faster, and in fact be government sponsored. Putting more people on the welfare roles, increasing crime, etc. Then there's the fact that US govt taxed online gambling would put the feds into direct competition with already extremely sleazy state-sponsored lotteries and keno. If you like poker, fine. I like it myself. Get in a car and drive the 20 minutes to any one of the thousands of places in this country where it's already legal. Why do junkies always insist on a faster way to get their fix? Cuz they're junkies, that's why.[/QUOTE]

    So it's a good idea then?


    I definitely have my fair share of flaws (ok, probably too many) but Im glad gambling is not one of them.

    After reading this thread I am even more confused about poker than ever.

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    [QUOTE=Fishooked;4491387]So it's a good idea then?


    I definitely have my fair share of flaws (ok, probably too many) but Im glad gambling is not one of them.

    After reading this thread I am even more confused about poker than ever.[/QUOTE]

    You sound European.

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    [QUOTE=BushyTheBeaver;4491168]The new jobs would be a small handful of programmers plus a few techs to maintain the servers. Taxes. Yeah, well, OK. But it probably won't come close to compensating for the fact that daddy's little addiction will now be capable of blowing the mortgage even faster, and in fact be government sponsored. Putting more people on the welfare roles, increasing crime, etc. Then there's the fact that US govt taxed online gambling would put the feds into direct competition with already extremely sleazy state-sponsored lotteries and keno. If you like poker, fine. I like it myself. Get in a car and drive the 20 minutes to any one of the thousands of places in this country where it's already legal. Why do junkies always insist on a faster way to get their fix? Cuz they're junkies, that's why.[/QUOTE]

    If someone has a gambling problem, they can already lose their mortgage in an hour if they so choose in so many different ways (Lottery, live poker, sports betting, illegal sports betting, casinos, horses, bingo, keno, video poker, etc)....

    I (used to) like playing in big tournaments online here and there for lower stakes where you could potentially win a lot if you make it far.....Now I can't because of why exactly? Every other civilized country allows it......

    The US is a joke when it comes to social issues like this.....So much hypocrisy and the government trying to tell people what they can and can not do with their free time

    Your view point is very annoying.....Why do you care if I play online poker? I don't complain when you smoke a pack of cigarettes, go bet on some horses, or play the lottery every night
    Last edited by King Koopa; 06-14-2012 at 03:16 PM.

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    [QUOTE=NYRAGE;4491374]You didn't move over to Bovada.LV when Bodog.com closed?[/QUOTE]


    Someone had to play it.

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    [QUOTE=brady's a catcher;4491631]You sound European.[/QUOTE]
    trumped!

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    [QUOTE=NYRAGE;4491374]You didn't move over to Bovada.LV when Bodog.com closed?[/QUOTE]

    They wont cash you out. They just transfer your bankroll there and you can not cash their checks in the u.s. It also takes them up to three months to send a check if they decide too. My friend had a problem with them and they bssically told him they'll send it when they decide too. They operate under the same mowhawk gaming group that licensed bo dog.
    And bodog took forever to pony up but they always did in the end.

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    [QUOTE=King Koopa;4491634]If someone has a gambling problem, they can already lose their mortgage in an hour if they so choose in so many different ways (Lottery, live poker, sports betting, illegal sports betting, casinos, horses, bingo, keno, video poker, etc)....

    I (used to) like playing in big tournaments online here and there for lower stakes where you could potentially win a lot if you make it far.....Now I can't because of why exactly? Every other civilized country allows it......

    The US is a joke when it comes to social issues like this.....So much hypocrisy and the government trying to tell people what they can and can not do with their free time

    Your view point is very annoying.....Why do you care if I play online poker? I don't complain when you smoke a pack of cigarettes, go bet on some horses, or play the lottery every night[/QUOTE]

    Agree witlh this - for a country that espouses "freedom of the people" and doesn't like government sticking its nose in its own citizen's business, the USA has a remarkable amount of government regulation and interference. Especially in these so-called "social issue" types of stuff. You can play poker online in places like Russia or Vietnam, but not in the USA? Absurd.

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    [QUOTE=King Koopa;4491634]If someone has a gambling problem, they can already lose their mortgage in an hour if they so choose in so many different ways (Lottery, live poker, sports betting, illegal sports betting, casinos, horses, bingo, keno, video poker, etc)....

    I (used to) like playing in big tournaments online here and there for lower stakes where you could potentially win a lot if you make it far.....Now I can't because of why exactly? Every other civilized country allows it......

    The US is a joke when it comes to social issues like this.....So much hypocrisy and the government trying to tell people what they can and can not do with their free time

    Your view point is very annoying.....Why do you care if I play online poker? I don't complain when you smoke a pack of cigarettes, go bet on some horses, or play the lottery every night[/QUOTE]

    I don't smoke. I don't play horses. I don't play the lottery. Here is why I care about about your desire to have online poker in the US.

    So you want legalized online poker in the US? Cool. I assume you want it to be fair, not a ripoff scheme like all the (so free) overseas sites that the OP is whining about. So how do we ensure that? Ah, you want oversite. And of course that means Government oversight. Create a new commision. Hire a bunch of new government hacks. Who are paid by...my tax dollars. Thasss right. You want my tax dollars to pay for government oversight of your "God given" right to play poker online?

    But I want to be fair so I'll tell you what...I'll support online poker in the US if you as a participant concede to requesting no government or legal regulation or oversight of any kind. Are we cool? You play and you assume the risk as to whether the site is legit or not. You don't grow the size of government. You don't clog the courts (or for that matter, Jets message boards) with complaints about sites that fail to pay up. Does that work for you?
    Last edited by BushyTheBeaver; 06-15-2012 at 12:50 AM.

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    [QUOTE=BushyTheBeaver;4492253]I don't smoke. I don't play horses. I don't play the lottery. You phail. Try again.

    So you want legalized online poker in the US? Cool. I assume you want it to be fair, not a ripoff scheme like all the (so free) overseas sites that the OP is whining about. So how do we ensure that? Ah, you want oversite. And of course that means Government oversight. Create a new commision. Hire a bunch of new government hacks. Who are paid by...my tax dollars. Thasss right. You want my tax dollars to pay for government oversight of your "God given" right to play poker online? Guess what, here's your God given right to **** my ****.

    But I want to be fair so I'll tell you what...I'll support online poker in the US if you as a participant concede to requesting no government or legal regulation or oversight of any kind. Are we cool? You play and you assume the risk as to whether the site is legit or not. You don't grow the size of government. You don't clog the courts (or for that matter, Jets message boards) with complaints about sites that fail to pay up. Does that work for you?[/QUOTE]

    The online poker world currently is unregulated - Pokerstars for example moved itself to the Isle of Man to escape government interference. The companies regulate themselves - they realise if there is even a hint of a whiff of ripping off customers their clientele will move en masse to another provider.

    There was no regulation before poker was banned in the USA - those sites that had a scandal or whatever basically just lost their customers overnight. The fact customers from Full Tilt Poker, which was one of the top 2 providers at the time, haven't been paid since Black Monday happened is because the US government stepped in and impounded all of their money. Most players would welcome it if government was stopped from interfering in online poker forever.

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    [QUOTE=BushyTheBeaver;4492253]I don't smoke. I don't play horses. I don't play the lottery. Here is why I care about about your desire to have online poker in the US.

    So you want legalized online poker in the US? Cool. I assume you want it to be fair, not a ripoff scheme like all the (so free) overseas sites that the OP is whining about. So how do we ensure that? Ah, you want oversite. And of course that means Government oversight. Create a new commision. Hire a bunch of new government hacks. Who are paid by...my tax dollars. Thasss right. You want my tax dollars to pay for government oversight of your "God given" right to play poker online?

    But I want to be fair so I'll tell you what...I'll support online poker in the US if you as a participant concede to requesting no government or legal regulation or oversight of any kind. Are we cool? You play and you assume the risk as to whether the site is legit or not. You don't grow the size of government. You don't clog the courts (or for that matter, Jets message boards) with complaints about sites that fail to pay up. Does that work for you?[/QUOTE]

    Your 2nd paragraph is unnecessary, I think most people that play online poker aren't demanding all of this regulation....I just wants things the way they were, like your 3rd paragraph states. If you stick with the main highly rated sites you aren't getting scammed out of your money. The only reason there were problems with sites paying and whatnot with US residents were BECAUSE of the US government constantly getting involved. They also were out to shut down payment processors before they shut down our access to the sites. Pretty sad when people are moving out of the US and to Mexico and Canada because they can't play online poker.

    If I'm not hurting anyone else let me do what I want with my money and time and I'll let you do yours.....bottom line when it comes to everything within reason, including online poker. Our country doesn't understand this AT ALL, very sad for the "land of the free"
    Last edited by King Koopa; 06-15-2012 at 02:42 AM.

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    It's sad that we can no longer play online poker here in the United States of America (the land of the free), but yet, I can go to the Hardrock Casino and gamble away at the poker tables... How does that make any sense? What's the actual difference in regards to playing poker at a casino when compared to the comfort of my own home?

    Also, why aren't we allowed to gamble online for money in poker? Because poker isn't considered a skill? Yeah, right, tell that to Phil Ivey. If the game of poker isn't considered to be a skill, then how is putting $1,000 into a slot machine, pressing the spin button over and over and over again until you've lost all your money considered to be a "skill"?

    The 3 largest scams in America are A.) The Casinos. B.) The banks and C.) The Lottery. The Government doesn't shut down all of the above, but they've shut down our ability/right to play online poker? Nice to know.
    Last edited by NY2FLDWC85; 06-15-2012 at 03:36 AM.

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    [QUOTE=NY2FLDWC85;4492282]It's sad that we can no longer play online poker here in the United States of America (the land of the free), but yet, I can go to the Hardrock Casino and gamble away at the poker tables... How does that make any sense? What's the actual difference in regards to playing poker at a casino when compared to the comfort of my own home?

    Also, why aren't we allowed to gamble online for money in poker? Because poker isn't considered a skill? Yeah, right, tell that to Phil Ivey. If the game of poker isn't considered to be a skill, then how is putting $1,000 into a slot machine, pressing the spin button over and over and over again until you've lost all your money considered to be a "skill"?

    The 3 largest scams in America are A.) The Casinos. B.) The banks and C.) The Lottery. The Government doesn't shut down all of the above, but they've shut down our ability/right to play online poker? Nice to know.[/QUOTE]

    That's why I'm so happy that there's free on-line poker, but no banks, casinos or lotteries in my local underground city.

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    [QUOTE=King Koopa;4492277]Your 2nd paragraph is unnecessary, I think most people that play online poker aren't demanding all of this regulation....I just wants things the way they were, like your 3rd paragraph states. If you stick with the main highly rated sites you aren't getting scammed out of your money. The only reason there were problems with sites paying and whatnot with US residents were BECAUSE of the US government constantly getting involved. They also were out to shut down payment processors before they shut down our access to the sites. Pretty sad when people are moving out of the US and to Mexico and Canada because they can't play online poker.

    If I'm not hurting anyone else let me do what I want with my money and time and I'll let you do yours.....bottom line when it comes to everything within reason, including online poker. Our country doesn't understand this AT ALL, very sad for the "land of the free"[/QUOTE]

    Do they have online poker in Latvia?

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    [QUOTE=NY2FLDWC85;4492282]It's sad that we can no longer play online poker here in the United States of America (the land of the free), but yet, I can go to the Hardrock Casino and gamble away at the poker tables... How does that make any sense? What's the actual difference in regards to playing poker at a casino when compared to the comfort of my own home?[/QUOTE]

    Because numbnuts, the USA gets a cut unless its on the interweb.

    "Boo hoo...I can't gamble online, America sucks."

    Move to Croatia if you don't like it.

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