Obama's a scumbag.
Obama's a scumbag.
The employer wouldn't have to pay a cent -- they would just have to make the offer of employment. I don't own a business, but I don't see why an owner would choose to pay "pennies" for illegal workers when they could get legal ones for free.
Hypothetically the citizen could use the length of his unemployment term to either look for a better job, or "prove" himself to his current boss in the hopes of getting a "real job" (depending on the business).
I'm sure it's not as easy as it sounds, but it would seem to solve the "hiring workers illegally" problem, as well as give the unemployed more incentive to find a job (or at least lessen the feeling of uselessness while looking for one) . . .
True story! This morning at about 6:45 in my white bread hoood I hear someone talking very loud coming down the street(very unusual) I look out and as it gets closer it's a black woman in shorts, a UT tee shirt and a Dashiki rag on her head yelling into her cell phone,went up the street and 10 minutes later came back still screaming in to the phone. "i tolt that ma faa, blaa blaa!
Gods Honest truth! Stereo types be damned!!!!
What is a little different down here is there are a lot of South Americans,who for the most part speak English,and really don't care for the Cubans.
That's why Rubio is not a magic bullet for Romney.
I am sick and tired of hearing about the children of illegal immigrants. The time has come to think about our children and their needs. Our families come first not everyone else. I am very passionate about our country always have and always will be. Happy Fathers Day to all of you daddies out there.
This is not the full DREAM act as their is no path to citizenship. This is essentially a change in Law Enforcement, i.e. we will not deport people who fall under this category.
Those of you that are upset, what do you want to on immigration?Under the administration's new plan, undocumented immigrants will be immune from deportation if they are under 30 and brought to the U.S. before they turned 16; have been in the country for at least five continuous years; have no criminal history; have graduated from a U.S. high school or earned a GED; or who have served in the military. They also can apply for a work permit that will be good for two years with no limits on how many times it can be renewed.
A mass deportation is too expensive and unrealistic. Penalizing every company that hires illegals is not going to have a good impact economically.
We can deport those that aren't contributing to society or having a negative impact on society. We can penalize the companies that are hiring illegals by the droves.
But there are 12 million illegals and we're in a recession/debt crises.
The truth is, some of them will be staying no matter what. So lets give the ones that are productive, and have grown up in our society, a place in our society.
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By DALIA FAHMY
May 21, 2010
It's all about money.
That's what it seems to come down to in the most recent flare-up of the immigration debate. Policy makers and pundits who want tougher policies against illegal immigrants argue that they cost American taxpayers billions of dollars. Those on the other side of the debate counter that illegal immigrants create demand and jobs that promote economic growth.
So which one is it?
The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), a conservative advocacy group that favors tighter immigration laws, argues that the answer is clear: illegal aliens cost U.S. taxpayers more than $100 billion each year.
Jack Martin, director of special projects for FAIR, says the group is still working on its estimate, but believes undocumented workers leave taxpayers with a fat bill, considering that the government spends money on the workers, and they almost never pay income taxes.
"The study of the fiscal effects of illegal immigration clearly demonstrates that it is a burden on the American taxpayer," says Martin. More forceful implementation of immigration laws could save each U.S. household "in the neighborhood of a couple of thousand dollars a year."
Cost estimates usually only measure the fiscal cost, which weighs government spending (such as on public schools, medical care, incarceration and unemployment benefits) against government income (from income, property and sales taxes.) All those interviewed for this story said they can only make rough estimates, since it's almost impossible to gather accurate data about illegal residents.
Photo: Expensive Aliens: How Much Do Illegal Immigrants Really Cost? Arizona Treasurer says Illegals Cost State Billions of Dollars A Year
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Martin argues that more than half of the country's illegal immigrants work in the "underground economy," meaning that they are paid cash under the table, without paying any kind of taxes.
Arizona's Gateway For Illegal Immigrants
States usually bear the brunt of the burden.
Arizona state treasurer Dean Martin says his state loses between $1.3 billion and $2.5 billion each year on illegal immigrants. In addition to the fiscal costs of incarcerating and educating illegal immigrants and their families, Arizona also faces a variety of other indirect costs, says Martin, who favors Arizona's controversial new immigration law.
Arizona has higher car insurance rates, he says, because illegal immigrants who cross the border often steal cars that they use to move further into the country. Undocumented workers are also more likely to perpetrate hit-and-run accidents, he says, because they are afraid of being deported if they are caught. Not only does this add to car insurance rates, but it also stretches police resources, he says.
"Unfortunately we are the gateway for illegal immigration, and that puts a bigger strain on our economy than other states," he says.
Illegal Aliens' Economic Contributions Count Too
Analysts on the other side of the debate, however, disagree with the math behind those numbers.
Wendy Sefsaf, a spokeswoman for the Immigration Policy Center which favors a lenient immigration policy, says that conservative analysts overestimate the costs because undocumented workers don't even qualify for unemployment or medical benefits.
At the same time, those whose jobs are paid legally – at least fifty percent, by some estimates – end up paying social security and other payroll taxes without ever collecting benefits. Since illegal immigrants are believed to constitute up to 5 percent of the U.S. economy, their tax contributions will mean a revenue windfall for legal residents.
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11:22 AM EDT
Mar 23, 2012
Those on the other side of the debate counter that illegal immigrants create demand and jobs that promote economic growth.---------------------------The demand is created by welfare dollars and that should be clear. If they promote economic growth we need an effective ..non.. political report that shows us how that happens. I don't believe it does promote a net economic growth, and does promote a net economic deficit. How many states are now trying to stop the immigration of illegal aliens into their states. Those states have looked at the numbers, and they say no thanks. All the articles in the world don't change that central fact that the States said no because illegal aliens are very, very expensive workers.
11:06 PM EST
Jan 19, 2012
Rudyct, there is nothing wrong with the color of your skin, I am a Hispanic also, an I was not born in this country, but when I came, I did so the legal way and when I become an American, I became an American and nothing but an American. The problem here is that the Hispanic media and the pro illegal immigration advocates, want to make this fight, a fight against immigrants and it is not, it is a fight against illegal immigrants only. The Hispanic media and the pro illegal immigration advocates, counting some of the American media also, like to use the fear in the Hispanic community, specially those with no much education, to use and inflate the numbers to their favor. I listen to Univision and they play the fear card way to often. This fight is simple, if we waited in a real line for a visa to come in the US legally, those who do not want to wait and instead, break our laws to come in any way, do not have my sympathy and I don't want my taxes to pay for their needs here.
5:39 PM EDT
Apr 26, 2011
In 1980, the cost to go to UCLA FOR ALL RESIDENT STUDENTS was a mere $702/yr., or about $2,200 in 2011 dollars In 2010, the cost is now $12k/ yr., plus other fees. Wendy Sefsaf, the cost for illegal aliens to attend UCLA is ZERO. So Jose Illegal, who makes $65k/yr, can send his five youngsters to UCLA, at ZERO COST AND TAX FREE, while others pay $12k. At $60k, that's like giving Jose a check for $100k. This doesn't include the Medicaid insurance and food stamps that these youngsters are using. Thank you Pelousi, Miller and Lofgren, for allowing the illegal alien population to exceed the productive employee and businesses that used to be able to provide revenue through things like income tax.