I guess I'm still confused as to how Schotty's offense was overly complex/"too creative for its own good" but rigid, while Sparano's offense is going to be simpler and more "down your throat" but more flexible.
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As far as winning games, I don't know where your getting that. They were 9-7 under Mangini and had the same record under Rex the next year.
On Rex, I don't know if it was on this site or another that patriot fans were giving Rex **** for calling a time out with Balt during a pats game as a C0-od, just before the Bart Scott throwing the ball in the endzone.
Personally, I did not think that the jets were to continue bringing in high priced guys, so I thought they may take a step back while they built thru the draft by trading down and getting multiple picks.
As far as heading in the right direction this is the year that will show that, either last year was an aberation, or a turning point.
I also agree with you that most of the patriot fans that post here do so with the intent to get a rise out of the jet fans.
As others have said, we'll find out a lot this year -- how much of the problem was Sanchez, whether we're able to impose our will with Sparano's running game, etc. Obviously Sanchez taking the next step and becoming more efficient at reading NFL defenses is as key as anything. There's no doubt in my mind he cares enough, I think he's dedicated. We'll see if he has it in him. This year is pretty much his career -- if he stinks here he probably just isn't that good and will never be in a situation better than this to succeed again.
It's definitley possible Sanchez is just a dummy who can't read defenses -- there's no question his best play seems to be instinctual and his worst play (i.e. 2011 Ravens game) is when he needs to make adjustments and gets confused by a good defense. I'll choose to believe he can turn it around, but obviously 2012 is it for him.
I'm not sure I completely agree with this. There is some truth in there but I also find it strange that Sanchez excelled in the 2 minute offense where he was given the ability to adjust plays on the fly and call playa at the LOS. There was never anything basic with Schotty's offense, it called for a ton of movement and shifts which didn't work and quite honestly I think confused the hell out of some of our players.Originally Posted by Sroger
Personally, I think the rigidity of the offensive scheme the last few years has to do with Sanchez's inability to read a defense and make the right decision. Rather than put the onus on him to adjust at the line- keep it basic and let him focus on his set progressions. In fact, the entire scheme was built around covering for Sanchez and eliminating his mistakes, w/ a sprinkle of wildcat to take him out of it entirely. You really think adding "flexibility" or freedom to adjust routes on the fly is going to be a good thing- especially w/ the cast of inexperienced players he is going to be passing to?
As far as winning the division or even guessing at a win total, let's see if we can even play winning football first. There are a ton of questions heading into this season and we really won't know how/if they were really addressed until they start playing games.
If the defense plays up to it's billing it's possible. It will come down to beating the Pats 2x which the giants have shown can happen with pressure. We're never going to outscore NE, like Indy of yore did. If the defense can handle them, the whole team will be given a chance to take the division throughout the rest of the season.
News flash: The Bills are closer to dethroning the mighty Patriots in the AFC East than the big, brash Jets.
Rex Ryan might love his team, or at least profess to, but it says right here they're not even the second-best team in the state of New York. That would be the long-downtrodden Bills, who can rightfully lay claim to having the best offseason in the league. After 12 playoff-less seasons, the longest active drought in the NFL, there's hope again in Buffalo. And this time, it's there for good reason.
While the second-place Jets (8-8 in 2011) were busy creating a potential team-splitting quarterback controversy for themselves with the Tim Tebow trade, not to mention the dubious decision to draft a 4-3 defensive end to play in their 3-4 front (Quinton Coples), the fourth-place Bills (6-10) were adding and retaining quality pieces to the puzzle at every turn. Be it their re-signing of key veterans Stevie Johnson, Fred Jackson or Scott Chandler, their drafting of talents such as Stephon Gilmore, Cordy Glenn and T.J. Graham, or their headline acquisitions of Mario Williams, Mark Anderson and Vince Young in free agency, the Bills have made moves to get better. Maybe a lot better.
The Jets? They've made a messy locker room situation that much messier. Life under Ryan in New York will never be friction-free, but pouring gas on the fire and expecting things to settle down is a curious approach to say the least.
Correction 36 hrs has passed since you were *****slapped and ran away
“It allows us to have a little bit more fun,” Holmes said. “And to know when you mess up, it’s on us or the quarterback, because of a certain sight or certain be-where-you-are-supposed-to-be-at type deal.”
He added: “It gives (Sanchez) options now. He doesn’t have to stare down one receiver to get him the ball. He can throw the ball wherever he wants to, based on the coverage.”
You should have already read this if you're a Jets fan or a troll that wants to argue from an informed position.
You guy like to agree with anything that supports your position. Good for you. I seem to be the only one saying that if I'm wrong we'll know soon. The rest of you will come up with some excuse. Sorry Sanchez has had stretches where he's been unstoppable, and you don't just forget how to read defenses. Those were times I thought Shotty might just turn the corner, but apparently those games were just when Shotty guessed right about a defense, and the other coach was just as stubborn as him.
I agree with your comment about the Bills defense. If they are just middle-of-the-road, the Bills will probably be a .500 team. If they step it up this season, the Bills could easily win 9 or 10 games.
LOL at anyone who actually thinks the Bills will be better than the Jets this year.
The ultimate "flavor of the month" trendy pick that doesn't pan out. They have less talent than the Jets in almost every area and haven't had a winning record in almost a decade.
They signed Mario Williams -- big whoop.
Jets are 5-1 against them under Rex... I'll beleive in the Bills when I see it. If Pats fans want to troll us about the Pats being better than the Jets fine, they're right. If they want to troll us about the Bills they can GTFO. As Ladanian said last year (before the Jets curb stomped them in their own house) "they are the same old Bills."