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Thread: Is winning the division too much of a stretch?

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    [QUOTE=Ray Ray19;4495097]


    Jets have finished behind the Pats 1 time in the last 3 years.

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    Right. :rolleyes:

    When was the last time the Jets had a home playoff game skippy?

    Here's how the Pats have viewed the Jets [B][U]for over the last decade[/U][/B]:

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    If Sparano can get us to a middle of the road O or better we may have a chance. Middle of the pack O top 5 D, versus top 5 O and bottom 5 D (Pats), it almost sounds plausible.

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    [QUOTE]Rex > Belichick[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE=GreenWave;4495094]The best part about this statement is that I believe it's actually possible.

    The Jets were a dominant defense in '09 because of two things - a good defensive mind calling the plays, and an attacking style that was somewhat different to opponents. I think the changes the Jets are making on that side of the ball can lead to a similar result, if some of the younger guys step up their game.

    Same with Sanchez...it definitely sounds like he's focused this year. Does that focus translate into an even more efficient version of the guy who played very well against NE in 2 out of the 3 games in 2010? If so, the Jets will be a handful for any opponent.[/QUOTE]

    There is no question that this is what all Jets fans are hoping and praying happens. It's not impossible... But I try not to get myself to worked up.

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    It would also help if the rest of the division would both beat the Patriots physically and on the scoreboard.

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    [QUOTE=Apache 51;4495127]It would also help if the rest of the division would both beat the Patriots physically and on the scoreboard.[/QUOTE]

    Do you know what the Pats record is versus other AFCE teams over the last decade?

    That's why the Pats always win the AFCE, because they dominate in divisional games.

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    [QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4495131]Do you know what the Pats record is versus other AFCE teams over the last decade?

    That's why the Pats always win the AFCE, because they dominate in divisional games.[/QUOTE]

    I thought I have been, and did just say that?

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    [QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4495131]Do you know what the Pats record is versus other AFCE teams over the last decade?

    That's why the Pats always win the AFCE, because they dominate in divisional games.[/QUOTE]

    True, but it's gone downhill in recent years. They're 4-4 in their last 8 games against the Jets and lost to the Bills last year...

    It's not the easy 6-0 or 5-1 it used to be.

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    [QUOTE=Austin;4495163]True, but it's gone downhill in recent years. They're 4-4 in their last 8 games against the Jets and lost to the Bills last year...

    It's not the easy 6-0 or 5-1 it used to be.[/QUOTE]

    Thae Pats worst division record over the last 10 years has been 4-2.

    That hapened once.

    The rest of the time they were 6-0 or 5-1.

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    [QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4495165]Thae Pats worst division record over the last 10 years has been 4-2.

    That hapened once.

    The rest of the time they were 6-0 or 5-1.[/QUOTE]

    Right... And I'm not talking about the past decade. I'm talking going forward.

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    [QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4495131]Do you know what the Pats record is versus other AFCE teams over the last decade?

    That's why the Pats always win the AFCE, because they dominate in divisional games.[/QUOTE]

    Since we are living in the past, was Dino a cat or dog?

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    [QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4495108]Right. :rolleyes:

    When was the last time the Jets had a home playoff game skippy?

    Here's how the Pats have viewed the Jets [B][U]for over the last decade[/U][/B]:

    [IMG]http://www.ultm8z.com/rear%20view%20mirror.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
    Who won the biggest Jet-Pat game in history (Jan 2011) Who was in who's rearview mirror then? You'll never live it down, dude

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    Most years ( over the last decade) the Pats win 11 games or less. Those are the facts. Division will be very winnable with our # 1 defense back

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    [QUOTE=32green;4495176]Since we are living in the past, was Dino a cat or dog?

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    From Wiki ;)

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    [QUOTE=sg3;4495086]thanks for posting, wiggy and cleatmarks

    I had slipped up and not included you two chowd troll jerks on my ignore list


    corrected now[/QUOTE]

    Thanks. I wrote you off minutes after you thought Tebow was a good idea 5 minutes after you said the team that got him would be a joke. Funny how that changed once he came to the Jets...then it was genius. :D

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    Where is this argument going? The Pats win the division every year. Over the last decade, they have been the most dominate team in the NFL. They win the division every year. They are in the playoffs every year. They have multiple Super bowl trophies and appearances over that time frame. They have arguably the best coach and qb in nfl history.

    The Jets are a pimple on the Pats ass until we prove otherwise.

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    Anyway, back to the subject.

    Buffalo is a wildcard to me. They've shown that they can play at a high level when things are going right and they shouldn't be dismissed. Their defense is sure to be better this year and if they can get into an early rhythm like they did last year, they can't be overlooked.

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    [QUOTE=BRONX JET;4495181]

    Division will be very winnable with our # 1 defense back

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    You mean that #1 defense who the Pats averaged 34 points against in sweeping the Jets last year?

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    [QUOTE=BRONX JET;4495181]Most years ( over the last decade) the Pats win [B]11 games or less. Those are the facts.[/B] Division will be very winnable with our # 1 defense back[/QUOTE]

    Facts need to be true to be considered facts. Recheck your math. The Pats have averaged 12.3 wins per season in the last 10 years. Pats' offense is apt to be improved, as should their defense. Jets improved as well but may have too high a reliance on needing rookies to step up and fill starting positions of need immediately. Not usually a recipe for success. If I were a Jets fan, I would be excited to see what a different OC will bring, but it's not like Sparano has had much in the way of success as a HC in Miami. In any event, it should be a fun season to watch.

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    [QUOTE=Redrew;4494855]Don't ignore Buffalo. Last year Buffalo was a .500 team until Fred Jackson went down. They've bolstered a brutal defense this offseason.....they should be a riser.
    Interesting factoid from 2011....the Jets, Buffalo and Miami were all brutal on the road....young QB syndrome???
    Face it.....Brady vs Sanchez.....no way the Jets surpasss NE[/QUOTE]

    Except when it really mattered in 2010/2011 Playoffs, when the Jets beat the Pats. Including playoffs, RR is 3-4 vs. Pats; that's not exactly a disaster. Take the Huggies off.

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