[QUOTE=John_0515;4496224]The point was that all three of those guys, and others, were drafted as the prototypical QB, who were supposed to become great. They were given support by their management and organization. Tebow played last year in spite of all of that.
That's the point. The fact that you focus on Jeff George to try make a lame tangential counter argument shows that you failed to see the point.
And you spelled "McGwire" wrong.[/QUOTE]
Excuse me, I "get" your point, but you used an improper illustration.
Don't give me lame, try to do a better job with your broad and inaccurate assertions.
Nobody thinks Tebow is a bad football player--he's just s sh*tty thrower.
Nobody thought Jeff George fullfilled his potential, but the guy had an outstanding arm and could throw the football.
[QUOTE=JB1089;4496312]Do you use wins and losses to evaluate pitchers in baseball?
I highly doubt, and certainly hope there isn't, a single person in any MLB front office that ever looks at a pitcher's W/L record.[/QUOTE]
When evaluating a QB, do you look at a guy who led the league in 3 and outs but won some miracle games at the end and say--hey, this guy can really throw the ball?
Wow, he's accomplished more than a guy who threw for over 27,000 yards (50th highest total in league history) and 154 TDs (70th in league history) and had one of the most explosive arms ever to play the game.
Was that guy a disappointment? Surely. And that's why Tim Tebow has accomplished more in his 16 starts because he limped into the playoffs and won a game?
Look, I don't have any love for Jeff George, he was a dick and a total disappointment, but the guy could throw the football.
[QUOTE=John_0515;4496217]I did and I will. Tebow played as a QB and won a playoff game. Plain and simple.
George played as a QB and won a playoff game.
Tebow's PASSING :rolleyes: skills aren't what George's were, yes.
Then why didn't George accomplish more? There's more to being a good QB than just having a strong arm and good mechanics.[/QUOTE]
This is like saying a WR can barely catch the ball, but he can block well/was on a winning team therefore he is better than a Megatron type who was on a losing team. It's just not completely sound logic, IMHO.
[QUOTE=TheMo;4496364]This is like saying a WR can barely catch the ball, but he can block well/was on a winning team therefore he is better than a Megatron type who was on a losing team. It's just not completely sound logic, IMHO.[/QUOTE]
You're not getting the point either, I'm afraid. :rolleyes: