Page 3 of 18 FirstFirst 1234513 ... LastLast
Results 41 to 60 of 341

Thread: Percy Harvin Requesting a Trade

  1. #41
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Posts
    52,055
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by KRL View Post
    Agreed, its like 2010 never existed
    That was 2 friggn' years ago.

    Holmes is nothing more than a JAG WR here in 2012.

  2. #42
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Vinegar Hill, Brooklyn ...
    Posts
    2,229
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by JETFAN1 View Post
    Are you serious? An all world CB for a WR?
    Let me re-phrase this ... No team that is serious about going to a Super Bowl can afford to pay a football player that is not a QB, 15 million a year. You could argue a pass rusher perhaps but I would much rather spend my 15 million on two quality CBs in the top ten than the single best CB in football. The salary cap is due to straight line for the next several years;
    Revis is destined to be the biggest star on a bad team.

    I don't mean replace Revis with Harvin but Holmes is a problem that is not going away and Harvin might provide insurance if he agrees to a contract April 2013 in the 9 million a year range.

    T

  3. #43
    Hall Of Fame
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    19,539
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
    That was 2 friggn' years ago.

    Holmes is nothing more than a JAG WR here in 2012.
    Don't you dare troll me, mothaphucka.

  4. #44
    Undrafted Free Agent
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    DC
    Posts
    123
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
    That was 2 friggn' years ago.

    Holmes is nothing more than a JAG WR here in 2012.
    Holmes is still a great route runner. The fact that he had a bad year in the system last year shows how bad and complicated the system was...spotty protection, no one to stretch the field, and overly complicated. His numbers won't be off the charts with a run first approach, but he will be a big threat for our offense this year.

  5. #45
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Brooklyn, NY
    Posts
    2,018
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Gangrene View Post
    Let me re-phrase this ... No team that is serious about going to a Super Bowl can afford to pay a football player that is not a QB, 15 million a year. You could argue a pass rusher perhaps but I would much rather spend my 15 million on two quality CBs in the top ten than the single best CB in football. The salary cap is due to straight line for the next several years;
    Revis is destined to be the biggest star on a bad team.

    I don't mean replace Revis with Harvin but Holmes is a problem that is not going away and Harvin might provide insurance if he agrees to a contract April 2013 in the 9 million a year range.

    T
    You make valid points and didn't mean to be facetious but Revis is just one of those players that don't come around often.
    Last edited by JETFAN1; 06-20-2012 at 11:14 AM.

  6. #46
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    ft lauderdale
    Posts
    1,521
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
    It would be a great idea from the Jets standpoint.

    Unfortunately, Holmes has no trade value whatsoever.

    Remember, the Steelers unloaded him for a 5th round pick and last year Holmes averaged 3 catches a game for 40 yards.

    At this point in their careers, Harvin is 10 times the WR Holmes is.
    Harvin is 10 x better, really?

    Holmes 2010 52 rec. 746 yards 6 Tds
    2011 51 rec 654 yards 8 Tds

    Harvin. 2010 71 rec. 868 yards 5 Tds
    2011. 87 rec 967 yards 6 Tds

    Not a huge difference there....

  7. #47
    All Pro
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Boynton Beach, FL
    Posts
    8,918
    Post Thanks / Like
    All the people here that bashed Holmes better not cheer for him. Hypocrites.
    Oh Ill cheer my ass off if he scores. If he is on the team, ill root for him. But if we could dump him for harvin, it would be the best move.

  8. #48
    All Pro
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Boynton Beach, FL
    Posts
    8,918
    Post Thanks / Like
    Harvin is scheduled to make $915,000 next year. Look no further then this as to why he is unhappy and is asking for a trade.

  9. #49
    All Pro
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    6,379
    Post Thanks / Like
    Holmes is a good receiver, I've never disputed that. I just feel that he's in the 20-25 range and not the 6-10 range.

    He and Harvin are close as far as receivers go. Harvin is a more versatile player.

  10. #50
    JetsInsider.com Legend
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Electric Avenue
    Posts
    25,851
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by JETFAN1 View Post
    I got that but you're still subtracting a CB for the purpose of signing a WR. Drafting a #1 CB does not justify that transaction.
    I don't see Revis being here his whole career TBH.

    He will work his way out with his God-like salary demands down the road and the Jets will lose him via FA anyway. As long as he doesn't hold out, he can be gone after the 2013 season. And chances are, he will be.

    So would you rather get something of value for him before that happens or let him walk with nothing in return?

  11. #51
    JetsInsider.com Legend
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Electric Avenue
    Posts
    25,851
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by KRL View Post
    On paper it sounds great but Harvin has chronic migraines that can keep
    him out of the lineup for weeks at a time. Add in the fact that he's going
    to want big $$$ shortly, I'll pass. He could end up being like John
    Abraham an exciting weapon that never plays
    Again, he's missed 3 games in 3 years.

  12. #52
    Jets Insider VIP
    Charter JI Member

    Join Date
    May 1999
    Location
    Naples FL
    Posts
    42,984
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    I don't see Revis being here his whole career TBH.

    He will work his way out with his God-like salary demands down the road and the Jets will lose him via FA anyway. As long as he doesn't hold out, he can be gone after the 2013 season. And chances are, he will be.

    So would you rather get something of value for him before that happens or let him walk with nothing in return?
    +1 He could end up on a crap team with cap room that can afford to pay him that has fans that worship a player rather then root for the whole team to win a championship..

  13. #53
    Hall Of Fame
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    19,539
    Post Thanks / Like
    Once he misses one game with a "headache" there will be dozens of dooshes on this board calling him "soft".

  14. #54
    Hall Of Fame
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    19,539
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Savage69 View Post
    +1 He could end up on a crap team with cap room that can afford to pay him that has fans that worship a player rather then root for the whole team to win a championship..
    Sound familiar?

  15. #55
    Veteran
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Vinegar Hill, Brooklyn ...
    Posts
    2,229
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by JETFAN1 View Post
    You make valid points and didn't mean to be facetious but Revis is just one of those players that don't come around often.
    No offense taken and thanks for the refreshing civility. Revis is incredible, agreed but we need incredible QB play (which we are not getting) can we afford HOF CB play ?

    The odds are increasingly stacked against you when you invest so much cash is so few players in the NFL.

    However I don't mean to derail this thread ... back to Harvin, his Migranes and his talent.

  16. #56
    JetsInsider.com Legend
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Electric Avenue
    Posts
    25,851
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by bcess View Post
    Harvin is 10 x better, really?

    Holmes 2010 52 rec. 746 yards 6 Tds
    2011 51 rec 654 yards 8 Tds

    Harvin. 2010 71 rec. 868 yards 5 Tds
    2011. 87 rec 967 yards 6 Tds

    Not a huge difference there....
    Honestly, it may not be 10X but I do see a pretty big difference.

    I don't know how many of Holmes' 8 TD's were in the red zone but I'm guessing a good portion of them. And I think that could be attributed to the presence of Burress who got a lot of attention in the red zone.

    Harvin provides a lot of YAC. And I think that would fit well in Sparano's system.

  17. #57
    JetsInsider.com Legend
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Electric Avenue
    Posts
    25,851
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    Once he misses one game with a "headache" there will be dozens of dooshes on this board calling him "soft".
    Harvin will play significantly more games in 2012 than Landry.

  18. #58
    Banned
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Houston, TX
    Posts
    52,055
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by bcess View Post
    Harvin is 10 x better, really?

    Holmes 2010 52 rec. 746 yards 6 Tds
    2011 51 rec 654 yards 8 Tds

    Harvin. 2010 71 rec. 868 yards 5 Tds
    2011. 87 rec 967 yards 6 Tds

    Not a huge difference there....
    Why the hell are you posting 2 year old stats as a comparison?

    Post last year's stats and see who produced more on the field.

  19. #59
    Hall Of Fame
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    New York
    Posts
    19,539
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by Jordy View Post
    Honestly, it may not be 10X but I do see a pretty big difference.

    I don't know how many of Holmes' 8 TD's were in the red zone but I'm guessing a good portion of them. And I think that could be attributed to the presence of Burress who got a lot of attention in the red zone.

    Harvin provides a lot of YAC. And I think that would fit well in Sparano's system.
    Holmes also missed 4 games. 4 games.

    Harvin is more dynamic. Holmes is more polished and has proven himself to be clutch.

    They are pretty similar players when you think about it. But Harvin does do a little more. He can return (but once he signs a big contract I doubt he will anymore). I would say Harvin is faster at this point but Holmes in no slouch.

  20. #60
    JetsInsider.com Legend
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Electric Avenue
    Posts
    25,851
    Post Thanks / Like
    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
    Why the hell are you posting 2 year old stats as a comparison?

    Post last year's stats and see who produced more on the field.
    He did.

    Wake up old man.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Follow Us