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    [QUOTE=Jet Nut;4498482]30 wins in 3 seasons, less than a handful have done that.

    4-2 playoff record.

    4 road wins, no one else has more.

    Complaining that he lost 2 is as idiotic as saying he's better than Brady because Brady has more post season loses Tex.[/QUOTE]

    I find it absolutely hilarious that people here crap all over Tebow and immediately dismiss his W-L record, but use that as the first line of defense for Sanchez. When it comes to Tebow, those wins are meaningless because his defense kept the team in the game until the end, but with Sanchez, he's the driving force behind all of those wins, regular season and playoffs. :rolleyes:

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    Pretty much everyone outside of this fanbase sees Sanchez for what he is right now. A bottom third, inaccurate, turnover prone QB.

    Please stop talking about the two AFC Championship appearances as if that's enough to anoint Sanchez as our QB for the next 10 years.

    And the whole "he only had 16 starts in college" excuse doesn't fly anymore. The kid has started close to 60 professional games, including the playoffs. Yet the pro game still seems to move 100 mph to him.

    Enough with the excuses. Sanchez hasn't performed up to par so far. Rex and Tanny have said as much publicly numerous times. Hell, so has Mark.

    Either he becomes a more efficient QB this year, or his career comes to an end in New York and he tries to compete for a starting job elsewhere.

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    [QUOTE]4 road wins, no one else has more.[/QUOTE]

    Eli manning has 5. Lets actually get the facts straight before posting.

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    [QUOTE=Joe W. Namath;4498532]Eli manning has 5. Lets actually get the facts straight before posting.[/QUOTE]

    [B]Sanchez lover response[/B]: Yea, but how many of those 5 came in Eli's first 3 years?

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    Dump this thread.

    Nothing good can come from this.

    :D

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    [QUOTE=Untouchable;4498506]Pretty much everyone outside of this fanbase sees Sanchez for what he is right now. A bottom third, inaccurate, turnover prone QB.

    Please stop talking about the two AFC Championship appearances as if that's enough to anoint Sanchez as our QB for the next 10 years.

    And the whole "he only had 16 starts in college" excuse doesn't fly anymore. The kid has started close to 60 professional games, including the playoffs. Yet the pro game still seems to move 100 mph to him.

    Enough with the excuses. Sanchez hasn't performed up to par so far. Rex and Tanny have said as much publicly numerous times. Hell, so has Mark.

    Either he becomes a [B]more efficient QB[/B] this year, or his career comes to an end in New York and he tries to compete for a starting job elsewhere.[/QUOTE]


    This is the key right here. Sanchez doesn't have to become a more prolific passer, he just has to improve his efficiency. Cut down on the turnovers and make better decisions. The Jets aren't Grounding and Pounding by choice, they are doing so because that's their best chance at winning games. If the Jets signed Peyton they'd probably have kept Schotty and gone to a full on aerial attack.

    I really do believe Sparano's offensive approach is going to make Sanchez feel a lot more comfortable and help to improve his efficiency. And maybe, just maybe, that's enough.

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    [QUOTE=ASG0531;4498540]This is the key right here. Sanchez doesn't have to become a more prolific passer, he just has to improve his efficiency. Cut down on the turnovers and make better decisions. The Jets aren't Grounding and Pounding by choice, they are doing so because that's their best chance at winning games. If the Jets signed Peyton they'd probably have kept Schotty and gone to a full on aerial attack.

    I really do believe Sparano's offensive approach is going to make Sanchez feel a lot more comfortable and help to improve his efficiency. And maybe, just maybe, that's enough.[/QUOTE]

    Agreed

    We don't need Sanchez to develop into a 4,000 yard, 30+ TD passer in order to be successful. That would be awesome if it happens, but it's not essential and it'll probably never happen anyway.

    He just needs to improve his accuracy and cut down on the turnovers. Hopefully a more vanilla offense will help him achieve that.

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    [QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4498466]When did I [B][U]ever[/U][/B] say Tebow was a good NFL QB?

    He's not.[/QUOTE]

    Anytime,.....;)

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    [QUOTE=K-Met57;4498464]in all fairness, he did fumble against Pitt...which was really a huge blow at that point in the game.[/QUOTE]


    Yes it was, but in all fairness the CB comes in unblocked and we are throwing i believe inside our 20 with a few minutes left in the half on third and forever......Not a good job by the OL....coaching or Sanchez in that situation.....

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    [QUOTE]We don't need Sanchez to develop into a 4,000 yard, 30+ TD passer in order to be successful.[/QUOTE]

    The last 3 Super Bowl champions have had their qb post these numbers :eek:

    So recent history says you do need those type of numbers to win a super bowl.

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    The AFC Championship talk is weaksauce.

    The Jets should sign Donovan McNabb. He led the Eagles to 4 Conference Championships! 4! That's twice as good as two!

    Or maybe the Jets can get [URL="http://www.nfl.com/player/neilo%27donnell/2502324/gamelogs?season=1999"]Neil O'Donnell[/URL] back. He helped lead two teams to the Super Bowl.

    Based on his current body of work, Sanchez would be hard pressed to get a starting QB job anywhere else in the league. Statistically he's near the bottom. On top of that his locker room imploded last year. His job is to be a good quarterback and a good leader. That hasn't happened yet.

    If it doesn't come together for him this year, he'll likely be a backup for the rest of his career.

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    [QUOTE=Joe W. Namath;4498560]The last 3 Super Bowl champions have had their qb post these numbers :eek:

    So recent history says you do need those type of numbers to win a super bowl.[/QUOTE]

    Everything about the Jets' offseason suggests this is not the goal or the approach they are taking to win ballgames. Recent history means ****. There is no singular way to win a Super Bowl. These claims annoy me as much as saying the Pats "aren't built for the postseason." The game doesn't change. It's utter nonsense.

    A few plays go a certain way and Brady = Montana. A few plays go the other way and the Ravens are playing the 49ers in the Super Bowl and validating the importance of a strong defense. Whatever. Just media narratives.
    Last edited by ASG0531; 06-22-2012 at 02:25 PM.

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    [QUOTE=Joe W. Namath;4498560]The last 3 Super Bowl champions have had their qb post these numbers :eek:

    So recent history says you do need those type of numbers to win a super bowl.[/QUOTE]

    Those kind of numbers during the regular season will always give a team a [B][U]good shot[/U][/B] at playing in the Super Bowl.

    But trust me, those numbers really don't mean much when it comes down to one game for all the marbles. :steamin:

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    [QUOTE=PatsFanTX;4498425]Have you every watched Tebow throw the football?

    He is not a NFL QB.[/QUOTE]

    Tebow is an NFL Qb and whether you like it or not he is the Jets QB.

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    [QUOTE=jxc;4498584]The AFC Championship talk is weaksauce.

    The Jets should sign Donovan McNabb. He led the Eagles to 4 Conference Championships! 4! That's twice as good as two!

    Or maybe the Jets can get [URL="http://www.nfl.com/player/neilo%27donnell/2502324/gamelogs?season=1999"]Neil O'Donnell[/URL] back. He helped lead two teams to the Super Bowl.

    Based on his current body of work, Sanchez would be hard pressed to get a starting QB job anywhere else in the league. Statistically he's near the bottom. On top of that his locker room imploded last year. His job is to be a good quarterback and a good leader. That hasn't happened yet.

    If it doesn't come together for him this year, he'll likely be a backup for the rest of his career.[/QUOTE]

    Sarcasm and comedy is good...

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    [QUOTE]A few plays go a certain way and Brady = Montana. A few plays go the other way and the Ravens are playing the 49ers in the Super Bowl and validating the importance of a strong defense. Whatever. Just media narratives. [/QUOTE]

    You can keep making up scenarios that never happened, or you can look at the facts. The last 3 super bowl champion qb had 30 td 4,000 yards seasons.

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    [QUOTE=Joe W. Namath;4498560]The last 3 Super Bowl champions have had their qb post these numbers :eek:

    So recent history says you do need those type of numbers to win a super bowl.[/QUOTE]

    Does it help to have a QB who is capable of posting those numbers? You bet your ass it does.

    But I don't buy this bullsh*t for one second that "Ground and Pound" is dead and you can only win a championship if you're throwing the ball all over the place.

    The Steelers have won two Superbowls in the last 7 years with that philosophy while appearing in another. We made it within 30 minutes of the Superbowl two years in a row with that mindset and we were a couple of blown chances from seeing a San Fran vs Baltimore matchup last season.

    Running the football and playing great defense has been an effective, winning formula in this game since its inception. A couple of guys throwing for 5,000 yards isn't going to change that.

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    [QUOTE=Joe W. Namath;4498595]You can keep making up scenarios that never happened, or you can look at the facts. The last 3 super bowl champion qb had 30 td 4,000 yards seasons.[/QUOTE]

    Do you understand the concept of variance? A few plays go the other way and Brady is a 4-time (5-time if you want to delve further) SB winner, or the Giants are facing the 49ers in a battle of the defenses. Great, your stat line is true. What does that prove? The "correlation-causation" issue is lost on so many posters around here.

    If you want to dig into this deeper, start talking about rule changes, QB protection issues, etc. What you said means nothing in terms of talking about football. They are just statistics.
    Last edited by ASG0531; 06-22-2012 at 03:09 PM.

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    [QUOTE=Shark99;4498594]Sarcasm and comedy is good...[/QUOTE]

    Donovan McSnob is hot garbage and needs to be sent to the junk yard...

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    You didn't just quote yourself so that you would have another reason to bump your thread, did you?

    No need to answer. It was a rhetorical question.

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