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    As Campaign Heats Up, Democrats Focus on Racism (FOXNews)

    [QUOTE]As Campaign Heats Up, Democrats Focus on Racism

    By Chris Stirewalt

    Power Play

    Published June 26, 2012

    FoxNews.com

    “I’m not saying that this is because Holder is black, and I’m not calling [Republicans] racists. I’m saying what they’re doing has a racial effect, and that’s what we’re going to talk about.”

    -- MSNBC host and racial activist Al Sharpton in an interview with The Hill, previewing an event today in which black leaders will denounce the pending House resolution to find Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt for failing to turn over documents.

    When House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi last week said that a Republican desire to keep minorities from voting was the reason lawmakers were dogging Attorney General Eric Holder over secret documents related to the murder of a Border Patrol agent with weapons lost in a botched gunrunning sting, it was a bit puzzling.

    The former speaker of the House is sometimes guilty of excited utterance, and certainly accusing one’s colleagues in Congress of trumping up a contempt charge in order to allow states to disenfranchise minority votes was a charge so monstrous that Power Play expected to see it walked back in subsequent days.

    But it has not been walked back, and today it will be run forward by a trio of prominent Democrats: Al Sharpton, Ben Jealous, the head of the NAACP, and Marc Morial, the head of the Urban League.

    While Sharpton is trying to say that the House Republicans are not intentionally violating the civil rights of black voters by ensnaring Holder in the unrelated case, Pelosi was very straightforward.

    “They’re going after Eric Holder because he is supporting measures to overturn these voter-suppression initiatives in the states,” she told reporters.

    Consider the magnitude of that accusation. She is saying that her replacement as speaker, John Boehner, and his fellow Republicans are willing co-conspirators with governors and state legislators who passed laws she says are intended to keep poor minorities from voting.

    One wonders why Pelosi isn’t acting even more alarmed. If Republicans were capable of such corruption and evil intent, shouldn’t she be occupying the floor like Mr. Smith and demanding an end to such iniquity?

    The fact that Pelosi made the charge so offhandedly suggests that there may be more here about spin than sincere outrage.

    While President Obama has usually worked hard in office to downplay his African ancestry, save incidents like his embracing of slain Florida teenager Trayvon Martin and Harvard Professor Skip Gates, Holder has taken a particular focus on racial issues.

    When he started his job, Holder famously called the United States “a nation of cowards” on the subject of race. Since then he has been at war with states and municipalities over what he says are a growing number of efforts to suppress the civil rights of minorities, particularly as it relates to voter identification and efforts to expel illegal immigrants.

    This is all coming to a head with Holder’s effort to stop Florida from purging non-citizens from its voting rolls and out in Arizona where Holder’s agency is trolling for civil rights complaints about a state law that requires police to determine the immigration status of those they detain on other offenses.

    The Florida case is huge because as the state seesaws between Obama and Republican Mitt Romney we see the chance for fraudulent votes or suppressed votes to be very consequential in a state that knows something about close presidential elections.

    But Arizona is the big one for Democrats. Within hours of a Supreme Court decision allowing Arizona to proceed with that most controversial part of the law, the Obama administration had made clear that federal immigration officials would not work with local law enforcement officials to detain or deport illegal immigrants.

    Holder’s part in this is to have a hotline and an email account to encourage any minority who feels that they were unfairly singled out because of their appearance. Holder would be very pleased, no doubt, the have Arizona back in court as soon as possible.

    There is also the hope among Democrats that Romney, who is obliquely supportive of the Arizona law, will be forced to defend the law in the face of a heart-rending story from Arizona, e.g.: “the woman, a third-generation Arizonan was detained by police and missed her graduation, which would have been the first in her family.”

    Liberal commentators have been honing in on Romney’s whiteness, which is quite considerable. Casting him as one who favors a nation in which dark-skinned people are randomly stopped on the street and asked for their papers would be ideal for Obama Democrats. On one side would be Obama, giver of temporary amnesty to young, deserving illegal immigrants, on the other would be racial profiling vampire Romney.

    And Democrats believe that if they can hold Romney under 40 percent with Hispanic voters, they can squeeze Obama into another term.

    Holder’s record certainly suggests he is sincere in his belief that white conservatives are actively trying to oppress minorities. This does not look like spin from him. This looks like a crusade, not a campaign trick.

    But from Pelosi and others there is a strong emanation of political gamesmanship leading up to this eventual question: If it is racist to hold Eric Holder in contempt, isn’t it also racist to vote Barack Obama out of office?

    Remember, many the moderate suburbanites who will decide this election were very proud of themselves for voting for Obama. They seem very interested in Mitt Romney’s CEO-style approach, but if Democrats can turn that 2008 pride into 2012 guilt, Obama might hold on to enough to win a second term.

    But here’s the problem with racializing the election for Democrats: blue-collar white voters. With these voters, charges of racism don’t sit well, especially if the charges are related to allowing foreigners into the United States to work, even as the job market remains rotten.

    The more Democrats focus on race, the more these voters will get turned off. And just as Romney has to hold on to some of the Hispanic vote, Obama can’t afford to get schneidered with blue-collar whites.

    Looking at national polls as well as the trends in places like Pennsylvania and Michigan, it suggests that Obama is reaching a crisis point with these folks who once formed the bulwark of the Democratic coalition.

    There’s cause for concern as it relates to upscale voters too. As Pelosi proved with what should have been a jaw-dropping accusation against House Republicans, charges of racism too often repeated lose their sting.



    The Day in Quotes

    "You know, it's fashionable right now for people to be cynical. We go in cycles like this and right now a lot of people are saying ‘Oh, America is doing terribly’ and ‘What are we going to do?’”

    -- President Obama campaigning in New Hampshire.

    “[T]o say, as the Court does, that Arizona contradicts federal law by enforcing applications of the Immigration Act that the President declines to enforce boggles the mind.”

    -- Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia in his dissent from the decision affirming in part and rejecting in part Arizona’s tough anti-illegal-immigration law.

    “I would have preferred to see the Supreme Court give more latitude to the states, not less. And there are states now under this decision have less authority, less latitude to enforce immigration laws.”

    -- Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney talking to donors at a Scottsdale, Ariz. fundraiser.

    “In recent days, in anticipation of this decision, I issued a new executive order asking that this training be made available once again to all of Arizona's law enforcement officers. I am confident our officers are prepared to carry out this law responsibly and lawfully. Nothing less is acceptable.”

    -- Gov. Jan Brewer, R-Ariz., in a statement announcing her intention to proceed with enforcement of her state’s immigration law despite federal threats of civil rights charges against officers and agencies accused of racial profiling.

    “I shouldn't be asked because I don't want to run for office.”

    -- Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice “On the Record with Greta Van Susteren” discussing her potential to be Mitt Romney’s running mate.

    “And finally, let me just say that somebody who I genuinely consider a brother -- I don't mean that in the vernacular…”

    -- President Obama at a Boston fundraiser acknowledging Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, who is a black man.



    And Now, A Word From Charles

    “I think ultimately this is going to be a wash, the ruling today will be a wash, I think, because it's a mixed one. I don't think it has a political impact.

    The political impact was Obama's unilateral implementation of the DREAM Act, which was a coup among Hispanics. But I think people are overlooking the fact that two to one among non-Hispanic Americans, they favor the law in Arizona. And I think standing up on this issue and requiring that the administration administer the law in carrying it out will carry a lot of whites, which will offset Hispanics. I think ultimately it's a wash.”

    -- Charles Krauthammer on “Special Report with Bret Baier.”[/QUOTE]

    The oft asked question, given the view of Democrats.

    Are Republicans racists?

    Are Democrats using the idea the win minority voters?

    Or is it some of both?

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    Obama is a racist, Holder is a racist. They've showed it in the lack of enforcement in N.B.P. case among others. Defending RACIST Louis Gates, And, Iffin I had a son. My people!

    But, moron whites will vote for these RACISTS to prove THEY'RE not.

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    The writer of that article hit on a point I've made here over the past few weeks. As Obama panders to illegals more and more the blue collar "Reagan Democrats" continue to flee his coalition. Literally within hours of losing their case in the SCOTUS the Obama administration decides not to cooperate with Arizona? The law states that people would have to be stopped by the police for a reason before discussing immigration status. They would need to have had a run in with the law. This outright pandering to the Latinos will win votes for sure but it is likely to cost some votes as well. The shame for Latinos is that there was a great chance for bipartisan agreement on this issue through the Rubio proposal but at this point Obama politicized the issue with his fatwa's and it is likely Republicans will be forced to take an opposing stance.

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    [QUOTE=chiefst2000;4501242]The writer of that article hit on a point I've made here over the past few weeks. As Obama panders to illegals more and more the blue collar "Reagan Democrats" continue to flee his coalition. Literally within hours of losing their case in the SCOTUS the Obama administration decides not to cooperate with Arizona? The law states that people would have to be stopped by the police for a reason before discussing immigration status. They would need to have had a run in with the law. This outright pandering to the Latinos will win votes for sure but it is likely to cost some votes as well. The shame for Latinos is that there was a great chance for bipartisan agreement on this issue through the Rubio proposal but at this point Obama politicized the issue with his fatwa's and it is likely Republicans will be forced to take an opposing stance.[/QUOTE]

    If an illegal is arrested they aren't being deported?

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4501208]The oft asked question, given the view of Democrats.

    Are Republicans racists?

    Are Democrats using the idea the win minority voters?

    Or is it some of both?[/QUOTE]

    It's both. The left does race bait, and the right has many racists.

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    [QUOTE=SafetyBlitz;4501254]It's both. The left does race bait, and the right has many racists.[/QUOTE]

    Does the right have more or less racists that the left, would you say?

    Who would be a representative example of a prominant racist, and a racist policy that racist promotes, on the 'right'?

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4501269]Does the right have more or less racists that the left, would you say?

    Who would be a representative example of a prominant racist, and a racist policy that racist promotes, on the 'right'?[/QUOTE]

    Off the top of my head, I'd say Rush Limbaugh is a prominent racist on the right - or are we just talking elected officials?

    Does the right have more or less racists than the left? I think the right has more racists voting for them - although it doesn't necessarily show up in policy, can't think of a racist policy by the right.

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    [QUOTE=SafetyBlitz;4501254]It's both. The left does race bait, and the right has many racists.[/QUOTE]

    The right has racists.

    The left has racists.

    The more important idea here is are these policies inherently racist? Is protecting votes of American citizens racist? Is ravamping a failing food stamp program racist (even though it is mostly used by whites)? Is asking to enforce immigration laws already on the books racist?

    Only a moron would believe so. Unfortunately, this country is full of morons.

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    [QUOTE=SafetyBlitz;4501274]Off the top of my head, I'd say Rush Limbaugh is a prominent racist on the right - or are we just talking elected officials?

    Does the right have more or less racists than the left? I[B] think the right has more racists voting for them[/B] - although it doesn't necessarily show up in policy, can't think of a racist policy by the right.[/QUOTE]

    Of course you do, 'cause stuffy old white Repubs are MUCH more racist than lib white guilters, and oppressed blacks and latinos. :rolleyes:

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    [QUOTE=SafetyBlitz;4501274]

    Does the right have more or less racists than the left? I think the right has more racists voting for them [/QUOTE]

    You actually think Al Sharpton votes republican?

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    [QUOTE=SafetyBlitz;4501274]Off the top of my head, I'd say Rush Limbaugh is a prominent racist on the right
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    Based on what, specifically?

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    [QUOTE=SafetyBlitz;4501274]Off the top of my head, I'd say Rush Limbaugh is a prominent racist on the right - or are we just talking elected officials?[/quote]

    Interesting, what would be an example of his racism?

    [QUOTE]Does the right have more or less racists than the left? I think the right has more racists voting for them[/QUOTE]

    What is the basis for that belief?

    [quote]can't think of a racist policy by the right.[/QUOTE]

    Well, no rush.

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    [QUOTE=JetPotato;4501275]Is protecting votes of American citizens racist?[/quote]

    Some on the left would say you're taking away the inherant human right to vote of minorities and women, who they say are the targeted victims of all "voter ID" requirement ideas.

    [QUOTE]Is ravamping a failing food stamp program racist (even though it is mostly used by whites)? [/QUOTE]

    Some on the left would say you're taking away the inherant human right to food of minorities and women, who they say are the targeted victims of all "food stamp reform" requirement ideas.

    [QUOTE]Is asking to enforce immigration laws already on the books racist?[/QUOTE]

    Some on the left would say you're taking away the inherant human right to not be hassled because of how you look or what accent you have, specificly minorities and women, they say are the targeted victims of all "immigrantion enforcement" requirement ideas.

    [quote]Only a moron would believe so. Unfortunately, this country is full of morons.[/QUOTE]

    I wouldn't call them morons. They simply see things very, very differently than you and I, and value things very very differently than you and I.

    For us, say, voter ID is iportant, and if one person is wrongly denied teh right to stop 100 from illegally voting, we're ok with that. For them, even one person being denied their right to vote, even if they could have overcome the burden of getting an ID, it's too much to allow such laws to exist, regardless of how many illegal votes may be cast (they believe it to be zero) by not having the law.

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    [QUOTE=cr726;4501246]If an illegal is arrested they aren't being deported?[/QUOTE]

    Not necessarily.

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4501297]Interesting, what would be an example of his racism?[/QUOTE]
    [QUOTE=shakin318;4501291]Based on what, specifically?[/QUOTE]

    I remember a while back "barack the magic negro" or something to that effect.

    [QUOTE=Warfish;4501297]What is the basis for that belief?

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    McCain Presidential rallies in '08 and this board. I can't remember the last time I've read a racist statement by a liberal poster, while Acepepe posts quite frequently.
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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4501300]Some on the left would say you're taking away the inherant human right to vote of minorities and women, who they say are the targeted victims of all "voter ID" requirement ideas.



    Some on the left would say you're taking away the inherant human right to food of minorities and women, who they say are the targeted victims of all "food stamp reform" requirement ideas.



    Some on the left would say you're taking away the inherant human right to not be hassled because of how you look or what accent you have, specificly minorities and women, they say are the targeted victims of all "immigrantion enforcement" requirement ideas.



    I wouldn't call them morons. They simply see things very, very differently than you and I, and value things very very differently than you and I.

    For us, say, voter ID is iportant, and if one person is wrongly denied teh right to stop 100 from illegally voting, we're ok with that. For them, even one person being denied their right to vote, even if they could have overcome the burden of getting an ID, it's too much to allow such laws to exist, regardless of how many illegal votes may be cast (they believe it to be zero) by not having the law.[/QUOTE]

    I'm aware of all of their responses to common sense solutions.

    And they still sound moronic to me. Not just different, but lacking in fundamental ability to weigh logic and the consequences of one's actions. Especially when the best counter to those proposals that they can come up with is "you believe that because you're racist". It's downright lazy and unintelligent. I'm willing to listen if we are going to weigh pros and cons. But when best you can do is chime in with a desperate party strategy, you're a moron by definition.
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    [QUOTE=JetPotato;4501317]I'm aware of all of their answers to common sense solutions.

    And they still sound moronic to me. Not just different, but lacking in fundamental ability to weigh logic and the consequences of one's actions.[/QUOTE]

    To be fair, do you read any of those "positions" Warfish rolled out as coming from the left from posters on this board?

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    [QUOTE=Warfish;4501300]...if one person is wrongly denied teh right to stop 100 from illegally voting, we're ok with that. [/QUOTE]

    Wow.

    You sound JUST like a liberal. Giving up the rights of the individual. How very Orwellian of you. The right of one person to own a gun should be sacrificed to keep people from being killed, right?
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    [QUOTE=SafetyBlitz;4501312]I remember a while back "[B]barack the magic negro[/B]" or something to that effect.



    McCain Presidential rallies in '08 and this board. I can't remember the last time I've read a racist statement by a liberal poster, while Acepepe posts quite frequently.[/QUOTE]

    No, no, I think you misheard. He said "Puff the Magic Dragon"....the Choom gangs favorite song.

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    [QUOTE=brady's a catcher;4501325]No, no, I think you misheard. He said "Puff the Magic Dragon"....the Choom gangs favorite song.[/QUOTE]

    My choom gang watches Workaholics on Comedy Central when we 'choom'.

    But here's what I'm talking about:

    [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_the_Magic_Negro[/url]

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