The questions you should be asking is 1) How confident are you that you can resign Revis? 2) Is his asking price worth the cap hit in the future? I mean he may be a HOF player but he is a CB not a QB or HOF pass rusher? Can you keep him and realistically keep a quality Team intact? and 3)Are you willing to risk losing Revis for a supplemental 2nd or 3rd round pick?
With the trade we shore up RT and add 2 #1 picks plus 2 additional picks to build for the near future. Keep in mind alot of money is going to come off the cap next year when Bart Scott, Dustin Keller, Shonn Greene, Mike Devito, Calvin Pace, Brandon Moore and Bryan Thomas are all UFAs. I mean most will not be resigned.
If he does that, I would trade him to the Seahawks or some other west coast team in a heartbeat.
Love Revis but thie selfishness has limits.
Last edited by Mardukis; 07-18-2012 at 12:52 PM.
And you know the players they draft will become this because? Because you think its easy?
You would get picks in return that you pray with all you have that one somehow comes anywhere close to being as good as the player you traded away.
Organizations maintain success by stocking up with talent and keeping it not trading it away at its peak.
The term 'shut down corner' was on the verge of becoming extinct before Revis changed the position forever. He's actually changed the culture of the CB position. #1 CB's will be forced to attempt what Revis has done over the years. He's set the bar moving forward as Deion did for Champ Bailey and Champ Bailey has done for Revis. Not even Deion Sanders would man up, each and every play, one vs one on an island; against opposing #1 WR's. Sanders, if you remember back to the early/mid 90's... Was used a completely different way. His head coaches/defensive coordinators would stick Sanders against opposing #2 WR's (more time than not), eliminating that side of the field, while rolling coverage over in regards to opposing #1 WR's. It worked great, but not even Sanders has done what Revis is currently doing.
Revis eliminates one side of an entire football field.
Revis completely shuts down opposing #1 WR's.
Revis completely eliminates the number one option of All-Time great Quarterbacks. Think Peyton Manning/Reggie Wayne. Manning was a shell of what he once was (usually is) during 2010's postseason game, all because Revis eliminated/shut down his #1 option/favorite offensive target. The Colts could only mange 16 offensive points (inside the dome) while Manning could only manage 1 TD. Reggie Wayne, due to an amazing Revis, was held to only 1 reception for 1 yard. That hurt Manning and the Colts offense more than words could describe. Outside of a 57 yard strike, Manning was held to only 168 yards and pretty much taken out of the ball game by Revis himself.
I just found it funny, while reading through this thread, where a Jets poster attempted to "make it known" that Revis doesn't impact the game (on a play by play basis) as much as an outside pass rusher (OLB) or beast of a DE etc, etc... In all actuality? Revis impacts the game more than any OLB and/or DE in today's NFL. Each and every play, Revis is completely eliminating opposing #1 WR's, he shuts down an entire field due to his ability to eliminate offenses #1 pass option and last but not least? Forces QB's to look else-where, during each and every play. No defensive pass rusher impacts the game as much as Revis.
The NFL has became a pass happy league over the years. There has never been an era of football where the importance of a vertical attack was as strong as it is today. Never. There has never been a better time for a franchise to feature the greatest CB of all-time; until now. We just struck gold with Revis during the 2007 NFL draft. He's established himself as not only one of the greatest CB's of All-Time, but also as the greatest overall defensive football player in today's NFL, and he's only 27 years of age. Scary thought.
I was only being sarcastic. I wouldn't trade Revis for 3 first rounders. Not in a million years. Chances are, 1 of those 1st rounders bust. The other first rounder is decent, and the other first rounder (if you're extremely lucky) becomes a very good football player, but far from a potential/future All-Time HOF great. The only way I'm trading Darrelle Revis? Is if we're guaranteed two HOF players during their prime years.
Last edited by NY2FLDWC85; 07-18-2012 at 12:38 PM.
Nobody would even give up 2 #1s for him. Not at the salary he wants. Giving up 2 1st round picks and then dooling out that kind of cash for a cb would be the death blow for a gm.
In todays nfl, taking out the #1 wr isnt a big deal. Look at the Ginats last year. You take away hicks.............. big deal. Cruz and manningham eat you alive.
Packers................... same thing. take away Jennings and nelson, driver, jones, cobb will kill you.
Spending money on revis is one thing. But NOBODY is spending that money and giving up 2 1st round picks.
Outside of QB teams can't devote infinite resources ($$$) to one player at the detriment to the rest of the team. Better to have a bunch of well paid above average players among the 53 than 1 (non QB) elite budget busting player surrounded by average players due to cap constraints.
If Al Davis was still around I could see the Raiders giving three first rounders. If and when the Jets ever do trade Revis they will get a boatload in return no doubt.
If by the time Revis is up for a new contract and the Jets are one step away from a Super Bowl...it's a no brainer...you have to sign him. I just think we're many steps away from a SB....
Can't do that.
You have to get AT LEAST one proven player plus a couple of picks if you're giving up the best defensive player in the league.
Revis does not eliminate one side of the field. He eliminates a player. If Revis' guy goes deep, the QB can still throw underneath on that side of the field. Revis is approaching GOAT status but lets try to be accurate.
He eliminates Wayne and Manning goes to Garcon. He eliminates Welker and Brady goes to Gronk. He eliminates Jackson and Rivers goes to Gates.
I was asking where the f*ck DWC gets some of this crap from.
"The term 'shut down corner' was on the verge of becoming extinct before Revis changed the position forever. He's actually changed the culture of the CB position."
On the verge of becoming extinct? Changed the culture of CBs?
It's just stupid.
Yes. Absolutely, yes. He tilts the field dramatically. He's not a QB or a pass rusher, and won't be paid like one. But he certainly has more of an impact than an average "great" corner, who still requires significant safety help.2) Is his asking price worth the cap hit in the future? I mean he may be a HOF player but he is a CB not a QB or HOF pass rusher? Can you keep him and realistically keep a quality Team intact?
Compared to tossing away a season and killing our cap? Yes.and 3)Are you willing to risk losing Revis for a supplemental 2nd or 3rd round pick?
Which is why I don't foresee real problems resigning Revis. Next offseason is when we'll be looking to redo his deal. If anything, we could negotiate this year with the idea of ripping up next year and putting in a guaranteed option bonus (so the cap hit is next season). But we'll have the cap room to extend Revis next season, and of that bunch, Moore and DeVito are the only ones with even a chance of coming back, IMO. No way Greene gets a second deal here, Keller probably walks away unless the market is below what I think is likely (he's very good, but replaceable), and Pace, Scott and Thomas are all likely goners. As are Smith and Hunter. Don't forget we may be resigning Landry, thoughWith the trade we shore up RT and add 2 #1 picks plus 2 additional picks to build for the near future. Keep in mind alot of money is going to come off the cap next year when Bart Scott, Dustin Keller, Shonn Greene, Mike Devito, Calvin Pace, Brandon Moore and Bryan Thomas are all UFAs. I mean most will not be resigned.
could you give us an expansive list of the Jets players, coaches and management that you hate, loathe and abhor
or is the list just