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    Jets better with Tim Tebow at quarterback?

    July, 17, 2012 3:00PM ET
    By James Walker | ESPN.com

    To say the spotlight will be on Tim Tebow this season is an understatement of great proportion.
    Matt Williamson of Scouts Inc. is not a Tim Tebow supporter. In fact, Williamson is one of Tebow's harshest critics.

    But he has no doubt that Tebow will eventually supplant starting quarterback Mark Sanchez this season and take over the New York Jets.

    “My prediction is he will see immediate time as a backup, maybe 15-20 snaps a game from the start,” Williamson explained. “Then, I think [coach] Rex Ryan will look at it more and more like Tebow gives the Jets the better chance to win. The Jets' defense is so strong and they’re pretty good on special teams that they could play Tebow more and more, because it gives them the best chance to have a winning record this year. That may not be the right answer long term, but I don’t think Rex cares about that. He’s probably feeling a little heat there with the Jets. I think Tebow becomes the starter before midseason.”

    If Mark Sanchez struggles to start the season, it might not be long until Tim Tebow sees time at starting quarterback.
    Williamson is not alone in his assessment. Many pundits believe it is inevitable that Tebow takes over in New York.

    But does Tebow give the Jets the best chance to win? Let's examine.

    The numbers prove that both quarterbacks are winners. Tebow and Sanchez had success at the collegiate level and in the NFL early in their careers.

    Tebow has an 8-6 (57 percent) record as starter in two seasons, including a playoff win over the Pittsburgh Steelers. Sanchez is 27-20 (57 percent) in three seasons and has four postseason wins. Tebow has a better touchdown-to-interception ratio (17-to-9), while Sanchez has a higher completion percentage (55.3 to 47.3). Both quarterbacks are mobile, but Tebow is a much stronger runner (6.8 yards per carry).

    "I think Sanchez is the better player right now, just because he’s the better passer," said Williamson when comparing the two. "But if I had to win one game, four games, maybe one season, I’m taking Tebow because he’s harder to prepare for, his physicality and he's so unique. But if I were to say, ‘Who will have the better career?’ I would pick Sanchez."

    A case also can be made that Tebow improved last year and Sanchez did not. That is why there’s a feeling of momentum favoring Tebow.

    Tebow or Sanchez? 2011 stat comparison

    Player Starts Record Yards Comp. % TD INT Rat.

    Tim Tebow 11 7-4* 1,729 46.5 17 9 72.9
    Mark Sanchez 16 8-8 3,474 56.7 26 18 78.2



    Tebow is coming off a season in which he went 7-4 replacing Kyle Orton in Denver and led the Broncos an AFC West title. Sanchez was 8-8, missed the playoffs and threw seven interceptions in his final three starts -- all losses. Sanchez must play well early to hold off Tebow.

    The Jets also have the kind of team Tebow needs. New York has a top-five defense, a physical offensive line and a coach whose priority is running the football. Tebow's skills make it much easier for Ryan and offensive coordinator Tony Sparano to manage the game. It makes more sense to tell Tebow to throw 15 times per game than to tell Sanchez, a passing quarterback, to do the same.

    Tebow also has more talent in New York than he had in Denver, including receivers Santonio Holmes and rookie Stephen Hill, tight end Dustin Keller and 1,000-yard rusher Shonn Greene.

    “The best-case scenario is I think Tebow can take that team to 11-5 if he became the starter early in the season and win a lot of low-scoring type games,” Williamson said. “I think that’s the best he can do, but that’s really being optimistic.”

    Keep an eye on New York’s early season schedule. This could mean a lot for Tebow and Sanchez. New York’s first five games are against the upstart Buffalo Bills, at the Pittsburgh Steelers, at the Miami Dolphins, then home against the San Francisco 49ers and Houston Texans. Three of those teams (Steelers, 49ers, Texans) made the playoffs last season, and the Bills have playoff expectations this year.

    Sanchez will have a short leash, so if New York starts the season slowly against this tough schedule, Tebow's number will be called early.

    Tebow says all the right things, but rest assured he will compete and wants to play. He is a former first-round pick entering his third year, which is big in the NFL. Tebow has been a winner at every stop. It also doesn’t hurt that Tebow has a huge following behind him. As a competitor, it has to be eating at Tebow inside to go from a playoff-winning quarterback to a backup and potential special teams player.

    New York is a veteran team that needs to win now. Six key starters are over 30, including defensive tackle Sione Pouha, guard Brandon Moore, offensive tackle Wayne Hunter, safety Yeremiah Bell and linebackers Calvin Pace and Bart Scott. Stars such as cornerback Darrelle Revis, center Nick Mangold and left tackle D’Brickashaw Ferguson also are in their prime.

    Sanchez deserves to start the year as the incumbent. But the Jets don’t have four years to wait on Sanchez to come around.

    “What [Tebow] does, he does well. If he gets on the field, he can spark and team and help you win immediately,” Williamson said. “I don’t think his skills are going away, but I also don’t think they will change much. But he’s always going to be a good runner, he’s always going to be tough and make good decisions.”

    Because the Jets have a stout defense and good coaching, Tebow may be enough for the Jets to have success in 2012.

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    Seems like a pretty reasonable opinion to me. If Rex is able to build the kind of Defense he wants (we have been a pass rusher away for the past 3 years), Tebow might very well be the better for than Sanchez. He is a better leader, can protect the ball better, he works harder than anyone, and is the perfect ground and pound QB.

    I think you have to give Sanchez a shot under a new coordinator, but I doubt they will hesitate to promote Tebow if the D is doing their job and Sanchez is still turning the ball over and costing them games.

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    Who the f\/ck is Matt Williamson and why would we care? and why can't this punk writer (in his own mind) just state his own opinions?

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    I stopped reading when he said the Jets are a win now team because Wayne Hunter (a key starter) is over 30.

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    Wow

    With Dick Semen-i and this dumba$$ Walker ESPatriotN has nearly cornered the market on incompetent hacks..

    Throw in Mr Peepers and Mort and theyve hit the SUPERFECTA

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    Quote Originally Posted by NY's stepchild View Post
    I stopped reading when he said the Jets are a win now team because Wayne Hunter (a key starter) is over 30.
    It's true, I laughed when I read that . . .

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    Walker, Florida Ranger


    ... who let him out of texas? ...



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    Quote Originally Posted by lamont_jordan_rules View Post
    ... who let him out of texas? ...



    l_j_r
    I guess his job is done there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lamont_jordan_rules View Post
    ... who let him out of texas? ...



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    We realized he was a peon, so we gave him the boot making room for THE NORRIS...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gastineau99 View Post
    Seems like a pretty reasonable opinion to me. If Rex is able to build the kind of Defense he wants (we have been a pass rusher away for the past 3 years), Tebow might very well be the better for than Sanchez. He is a better leader, can protect the ball better, he works harder than anyone, and is the perfect ground and pound QB.I think you have to give Sanchez a shot under a new coordinator, but I doubt they will hesitate to promote Tebow if the D is doing their job and Sanchez is still turning the ball over and costing them games.
    Funny, I thought an NFL QB has to THROW the ball. Tebow fans never mention that little known fact when discussing reasons to play that piece of crap.

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    This guy is scared

    Losers who don't mention the Jets problems last
    season with the O line, losing Cotch and Edwards,
    and the fact that Sanchez numbers improved,
    are just really nervous and jealous and scared.

    Calling Sanchez "benched" when Tebo goes
    into the game shows this young boy doesn't
    know the game, I'd expect a comment like
    that from a six year old.

    This guy is a moron among morons,
    he should be benched, ESPN is joke
    with a very low level across the
    board, their magazine is porn for gays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diego Jet Fan View Post
    Losers who don't mention the Jets problems last
    season with the O line, losing Cotch and Edwards,
    and the fact that Sanchez numbers improved,
    are just really nervous and jealous and scared.

    Calling Sanchez "benched" when Tebo goes
    into the game shows this young boy doesn't
    know the game, I'd expect a comment like
    that from a six year old.

    This guy is a moron among morons,
    he should be benched, ESPN is joke
    with a very low level across the
    board, their magazine is porn for gays.
    Are you posting from a typewriter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 10PennyToColes87 View Post
    Are you posting from a typewriter?
    I think it's meant to be a song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASH_1962 View Post
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    LOL

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    Granted, Walker is obsessed with the Tim Tebow story ... he has admitted it in the past.

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    Urban Meyer is happy Tim Tebow is getting back to h

    Live from Tahoe: Ex-Florida coach Urban Meyer is happy Tim Tebow is getting back to his roots

    Ian Rapoport | NFL Blog


    As soon as the Jets acquired Tim Tebow,the questions began about how he would fit in. There is some doubt, for instance, about whether a two-QB system could work. But they obviously want him for a reason. So… huh?

    Well, ESPN New York reported that the Jets are planning to use Tebow as a red-zone option, taking starter Mark Sanchez out at times inside the 20. Interesting idea. But not new.

    In fact, when Tebow was a freshman at Florida, he was the backup to nearly-as-heralded Chris Leak. Essentially, playing in the red zone was his role. Don’t believe me? Let’s ask a dude who knows.

    I spoke with ex-Florida coach Urban Meyer coming off the course during a practice round of the American Century Celebrity Golf Championship. And his mind went back to a magical 2006 that ended with a national title.

    “That’s kinda how we used him his freshman year,” Meyer told me, when I mentioned the report to him. “We used him as a short-yardage specialist and change-of-pace guy, so yeah. I think he’s just gotta get on the field.”

    That’s the plan. Tebow accounted for 13 touchdowns as a freshman, eight rushing, in that role. There is a great breakdown on the Florida Times-Union’s site. That’s when he popularized the jump pass. So, if the Jets follow that example, things might happen.

    And for the Ohio State fans out there — yes, talking to you Albert Breer — Meyer said he’s already feeling the anticipation for camp. “It’s been there for a long time,” he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gastineau99 View Post
    Seems like a pretty reasonable opinion to me. If Rex is able to build the kind of Defense he wants (we have been a pass rusher away for the past 3 years), Tebow might very well be the better for than Sanchez. He is a better leader, can protect the ball better, he works harder than anyone, and is the perfect ground and pound QB.

    I think you have to give Sanchez a shot under a new coordinator, but I doubt they will hesitate to promote Tebow if the D is doing their job and Sanchez is still turning the ball over and costing them games.
    You are high as ****. You think that Tanny regards Sanchez as a back up?

    Who/what is preventing everyone from thinking this through?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoastOffensive View Post
    You are high as ****. You think that Tanny regards Sanchez as a back up?

    Who/what is preventing everyone from thinking this through?
    Who said Tanny regards Sanchez as a backup? I just said if he struggles, turning the ball over and costing us games where the Defense is doing there part, then they aren't going to hesitate to give Tebow a shot at managing games.


    Don't forget, if Tex had it his way, he would win games 13-6 and running the ball 50 times a game, that's why I think Tebow is the perfect QB for Rex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoastOffensive View Post
    You are high as ****. You think that Tanny regards Sanchez as a back up?

    Who/what is preventing everyone from thinking this through?
    Rex was all over the news tonight talking about his 100+ lb weight loss. Was asked on one of the major networks about Sanchez - Tebow. Again, Tebow was brought in to run the WC, nothing more, Sanchez is the starter and will remain the starter.

    But too many thought this through and came to their own conclusion.

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