Has anyone talked about what happened in Oregon prior to this shooting?
The "shooter" there stopped his assault and shot himself when a civilian tried to respond to the active shooter. Once the "shooter" saw the gun, he gave up.
How many more people would have died if that civilian didn't possess a firearm?
When the police showed up at the school in CT, the "shooter" there shot himself as well.
Things are aren't cut and dry. Sane, responsible people shouldn't be punished to appease the mass media. How about all the warning signs that were ignored? People are too worried to not hurt people's feelings, and do the politically correct thing. Some people can, and SHOULD own firearms. Others shouldn't even have a slingshot.
How about video games? Should violent video games be banned as well?
Gun control will never happen. Look for a heavier screening process, and a heavy tax imposed on all weapons.
I was just in my FFL's shop today (yes, I own firearms), and he was clean out. He is also a class 3 dealer. I asked him "how about suppressors and such. Do you think they'll be affected by the weapon ban, if imposed?"
He told me that they would NOT. Point is, they're expensive, and people don't go after suppressors, meaning people with more money buy them. He believes there will be a weapon TAX making firearms more expensive.
In Maryland (where I live) you can't have a magazine higher than 20 rounds. But the Troopers encourage you to drive to VA or PA, buy whatever you want and drive it back - because it's legal.
Assault weapons in NJ are very strict. Collapsible stock, etc., all not allowed. But to be honest, do you need an assault rifle to do something bad?
I don't think a federal ban will happen (on assault weapons and accessories). They may make the screening process more thorough, impose a new one, or something like that, but Capitol Hill will stay out of it, other than just do enough to appease the media.
I live near and work in DC. I interact with a lot of Senators and Congressmen. I'd say 90% believe the above. Add to the fact that assault weapons are not commonly used in these atrocities, pistols are.
A mentally ill person will find a way to hurt people if he/she really wants to.
.Rep. Villalba: Let teachers carry concealed guns
by MAURICE CHAMMAH
The Texas Tribune
Posted on December 18, 2012 at 11:36 AM
Updated today at 6:16 PM
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In response to last week's Connecticut school shooting, state Rep. Jason Villalba, R-Dallas, says he will file legislation to allow public school teachers to carry concealed weapons while on campus.
The bill, which Villalba is calling the Protection of Texas Children Act, would permit Texas schools to appoint a member of their faculty as a "school marshal." The marshal, with training and certification, would be able to "use lethal force upon the occurrence of an attack in the classroom or elsewhere on campus," according to a press release from Villalba's office.
“Unfortunately, law enforcement personnel cannot be everywhere at all times," Villalba said in a statement. "We need to talk very frankly about how we can protect our children if the unthinkable should occur."
So if calling for tighter restrictions on assault weapons in the wake of Newtown is a knee jerk reaction, how is this also not a knee jerk reaction?
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It seems like the media is using the term "semi-automatic" in the same way as "assault rifle". It doesn't really mean anything but it sounds menacing and scary.
There actually is a history and loose definition of assault rifle although for sure there's a lot of grey. Basically, after WW2 the US army did a bunch of studies. One of the things they learned was that that in combat most killing came at a much closer range than previously expected. Also, most soldiers did not fire their weapons (yes, you read that right). So the rifles that had been in use, which emphasized the ability to fire a heavy caliber bullet with accuracy from a long range (at the cost of slower loading and a sharp recoil) were largely wasted. The studies suggested that battles were won by the side able to fire the most bullets the fastest at medium range. So the "assault" rifle was born (or advanced, if you're a real history student), a weapon that sacrifices caliber and long range accuracy in favor of speed. By designing a weapon that could shoot a lot more bullets faster, you in part made up for the soldiers that didn't fire at all. Not surprisingly, guns, just like the cars we drive, the appliances we use, are increasingly designed to make up for the shortcomings of the humans that use them. So in that respect most guns (but possibly assault rifles in particular) are designed to make the inexperienced more lethal.
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