Diane Feinstein has a permit to carry her firearm.
So does Chuck Schumer.
People who want to buy guns because they are afraid that the president is going to take them from them and decide to keep them in their home unlocked with a kid they warned 16 year old babysitters not to "turn their back on" should not be allowed to own guns because they are mentally unstable.
The gangbanger on the corner who has a piece to protect his stash is more stable.
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I have no guns nor do I wish to have one. But lets face the mother of this child had these weapons in her house and even took to to a shooting range.
She confided in one of the teachers the day before she was afraid for life. But still did nothing. A crazy ass kid and a nitwit mother what a combination.
2. The so-called plan announced by the NRA was an embarrassment. For a special interest group that promotes freedom from the control of the government to offer, as a solution, handing over billions of tax dollars to government workers to patrol schools is the height of hypocrisy. And what about patrolling the movie theaters, malls and colleges? How much more tax money will be needed to patrol those areas across the country? More guns is not the answer.
3. Keep the right to bear arms as described in the second amendment. But close the loopholes and make the background checks legitimate-and include mental background with it. The rights of the gun owners are not more important then the rights of everyone else.
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City of New York public schools already have 350 armed NYPD in elementary and secondary schools. Lots of public schools across the country have similar programs.
In 2000 former President Bill Clinton started the "COPS In School" program:
President proposes $60 million to put COPS in schools That would be President Bill Clinton in 2000 on the one-year Columbine anniversary.
Clinton also unveiled the $60-million fifth round of funding for “COPS in School,” a Justice Department program that helps pay the costs of placing police officers in schools to help make them safer for students and teachers. The money will be used to provide 452 officers in schools in more than 220 communities.
“Already, it has placed 2,200 officers in more than 1,000 communities across our nation, where they are heightening school safety as well as coaching sports and acting as mentors and mediators for kids in need,” Clinton said.
This thread is the liberal "War on Drugs" argument in reverse!!
The argument on drugs is people are going to get drugs no matter what so why bother making them illegal and making a black market...
The same applies to gun laws.. There already ARE strict gun laws in place.. Look what happened to Plaxico..
If a psycho (especially a suicidal psycho) has the resources and wants to get a gun.. HE IS GOING TO GET ONE!! and no law is going to stop him/her..
Lets say we outlaw guns. completely.. Nobody can own them...
What happens the first time a criminal breaks into a home and kills a family which formerly had a gun to protect themselves???
Personally I hate guns.. I don't own one.. I never will own one.. I am afraid of them.. But I just know the reality..
A nice fairy tale is the the Government, any Government, can be trusted to not abuse it's power and authority without some fear/respect of the people they rule.Its a nice fairy tale though and it gives the illusion of power.
A disarmed disinterested populace is the speediest route to tyrany and worse. And we're already a disinterested people, in the majority.
So you're willing to denounce as unintelligent every "protester" in the United Stated who has resorted to violence, or any form of protest outside the voting system then?Most intelligent people that live in a democracy understand that real political change can only come from within the system.
You're so kind, to allow us to keep our rights. And you wonder why some of us worry about abuse of power....the idea that you have any right to revoke the rights of the rest of us is exibit A. why the Government, staffed with people like yourself, cannot be trusted to respect and protect the rights of us all.3. Keep the right to bear arms as described in the second amendment.
How would you define the "mental background check"? Would any depression, for example, be a disqualifier (if so, I'd have my rights revoked for being sad after my father died....when I was diagnosed with depression at one point)?But........make the background checks legitimate-and include mental background with it. The rights of the gun owners are not more important then the rights of everyone else.
The rights of the people to own guns is as important as any other right we possess. The right of the gun owner have nothing to do with your rights being removed, that only occurs whan an INDIVIDUAL chooses to break the Law (often dozens of laws) and infringes upon your rights. The individual does that, not "gun owners" as a group.
Again, wholesale denouncement of an entire class of people in order to scapegoat them for political gain and added power is exibit B as to why the Government and people like yourself who staff it cannot be trusted to respect or protect the rights of us all.
And I'm curious teach, are you willing to put in place the same limits and checks for other rights as you are for gun ownership? Say, speech and voting? No freedom of speech or to vote without background checks, mental health checks, and more? LIke ID checks for voting (far far less restrictive that any gun law is)?
If not, you clearly do not view the 2nd amendment as a right at all, in which case your viewpoint is intrinsicly invalid. If you want to remove the right to own guns, there is a clear pathway to that, amend the Constitution via the democratic process to do so.
Any other route is an infringement on our rights, a loss of freedom for the appearance of added safety (and appearence only).
As usual, you're full of sh*t and talking out of your ass....
Yes I know... she bought them for protection and one was used against her so there's no need of you spewing your usual sh*t about that either...
A little history lesson for the history teacher:
1911 – Turkey disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1915 – 1917 they murdered 1.5 million Armenians.
1929 – Russia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1929 – 1953 they murdered 20 million Russians.
1935 – China disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1948 – 1952 they murdered 20 million Chinese.
1938 – Germany disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1939 – 1945 they murdered 16 million Jews.
1956 – Cambodia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1975 – 1977 they murdered 1 million Educated people.
1964 – Guatamala disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1964 – 1981 they murdered 100,000 Mayan Indians.
1970 – Uganda disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1971 – 1979 they murdered 300,000 Christians.