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    Quote Originally Posted by k.Rhodes25 View Post
    I would like to hear more about him, he was our 1st round pick and we are desperate for a pass rush.
    He's a rookie learning new positions and assignments, I wouldn't expect to hear much right away

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    Jets' first-round pick, DE Quinton Coples, to open as third-down specialist
    Published: Wednesday, August 01, 2012, 7:18 PM Updated: Wednesday, August 01, 2012, 7:29 PM
    By Jenny Vrentas/The Star-Ledger

    CORTLAND, N.Y. — The Jets put pads on Sunday, and defensive coordinator Mike Pettine could almost see the gears grinding in the head of the team’s first-round pick, slowing him down on the field.

    But Pettine wasn’t worried. After watching fellow defensive lineman Muhammad Wilkerson as a rookie last year, he could diagnose exactly where Quinton Coples was at.

    “Coming out of the spring, I think he felt he had a pretty good grasp on things, and they don’t know that they don’t know,” Pettine said. “They get a little overwhelmed, but you have to let them fail first.”
    The Jets have a plan for Coples, Pettine explained: Throw him into the fire, then dial back and build him back up.

    So they took Coples out of the first team “base” grouping, a 3-4 front that right now starts Sione Po’uha, Mike DeVito and Muhammad Wilkerson. Coples is still working with the first team in the “taco” call, a 4-3 front with Coples at the rush spot alongside Po’uha, DeVito and Wilkerson. He’s also in their 4-man sub front with Wilkerson and outside linebackers Calvin Pace and Aaron Maybin.

    “We’ll work it from back to front,” Pettine said of Coples’ role. “He’ll be a third-down guy, similar to Maybin. Get him out there in passing situations and then work him into the base defense. Let him be a back-up for the guys in base, but keep his plate small.”

    Soon after the Jets drafted Coples 16th overall out of North Carolina, coach Rex Ryan dubbed him a starter. But with a “multiple” Jets defense, starter has a loose definition.

    For instance, while Pettine considers the Jets’ base defense the 3-4 set — with Pace, Bryan Thomas, Bart Scott and David Harris as the four linebackers — he also said they are using that look for maybe three plays per practice.

    The bottom line is the Jets expect Coples to play a major role this year. Pettine said he’ll be in for 50 to 80 percent of the plays per game, depending on the kind of offense they are facing — and will likely be second only to Wilkerson in the number of snaps he takes.

    But the coaches are being patient with Coples, pointing to the way Wilkerson gained momentum in his rookie season.

    After practice today, Ryan stressed communication among the linemen. Coples has been looking to his teammates when they line up, and he’s been encouraged to grab the nearest veteran as a “thinking buddy.”

    When Po’uha noticed a few days ago that Coples looked “robotic” on the field, he pulled him aside. “Just go out there and play,” Po’uha told him.

    Coples spent the summer studying cut-ups from last season of the positions he’ll be playing this year, and is now soaking up position coach Karl Dunbar’s tips on hand movements to get off blocks. He’s a far cry from his naïve declaration at rookie mini-camp that he had “grasped the majority of the defensive playbook.”

    “I’m comfortable but still learning,” Coples said this week. He added that he isn’t concerned whether he plays with the first or second-team defense, so long as he gets reps at all the spots he needs to learn.

    One area that’s been challenging, he said, is studying linebacker techniques. Coples could be asked to drop back in certain sub packages, but the coaches said that’s not something he’ll be doing much of just yet.

    Dunbar says Coples is having a good camp, praising what he’s seen in one-on-one pass rush drills. He and Pettine understand “the wall” they routinely see rookies hit, and they’re helping him around it.

    “It is frustrating for him because he wants to come in, and I think he’s got a little bit of a chip on his shoulder for some of the things that were said about him,” Pettine said. “He’s a guy that he cares. He really wants to play well, and he doesn’t want to let anybody down.”

    Jenny Vrentas: jvrentas@starledger.com.

    http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/201..._de_quint.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by rextilleon View Post
    Why do you need to hear reports. Rex and Beany drafted him--he can't miss.
    Tx is a troll. You're something much worse. A mole. Why don't you move on to a team you at least like and enjoy. Forty plus years of bitterness and contempt has turned you into something really ugly...

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    I can't wait to see the D on a 3rd and long situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k.Rhodes25 View Post
    I would like to hear more about him, he was our 1st round pick and we are desperate for a pass rush.
    So would I, but unfortunately the first thing you'll hear about him is when he does something very wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fullblast View Post
    Props to Jenny for writing real substantive articles on stories the fans want to hear!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_0515 View Post
    So would I, but unfortunately the first thing you'll hear about him is when he does something very wrong.
    But then as fans we have to remember what Pettine said, that they have to let them make mistakes as that is how they learn to do it right. It was funny to read him saying that, when the same day in Foxboro Brady was telling the media the same thing about the pats rookies.

    We have to expect these guys to make mistakes this summer and hopefully they learn from them, If there making the same mistakes 1 month from now then we can be concerned. But till then you will hear stories on how he blew past the OT and will be an all-pro and the next day he got pancaked and is a stiff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    I heard Rex is a little upset with how slow he is progressing. Thought he would at least be a Pro Bowler by now.
    Actually Rex is more upset Coples hasnt won Rookie of the Year yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by long island leprechaun View Post
    Tx is a troll. You're something much worse. A mole. Why don't you move on to a team you at least like and enjoy. Forty plus years of bitterness and contempt has turned you into something really ugly...
    +1billion. Don't let the door hit ya where the Lord split ya

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    Jenny is the (wo)man. I wonder how long it will be before she gets a job somewhere else? All of the good work can't be going unnoticed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patman View Post
    But then as fans we have to remember what Pettine said, that they have to let them make mistakes as that is how they learn to do it right. It was funny to read him saying that, when the same day in Foxboro Brady was telling the media the same thing about the pats rookies.

    We have to expect these guys to make mistakes this summer and hopefully they learn from them, If there making the same mistakes 1 month from now then we can be concerned. But till then you will hear stories on how he blew past the OT and will be an all-pro and the next day he got pancaked and is a stiff.
    I agree. Point I was trying to make is that nobody cares when he does something good in practice, but the entire media circus will crush him if he does something wrong, gets yelled at, etc. Silence is golden for him at this point, IMO. Especially on this team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bitonti View Post
    even then it was BS. A guy would make a play in preseason, and everyone would say who cares, he made that play against the future grocery baggers of America.

    Basically Coples needs to perform when it's real. That's the bottom line.
    Really?

    Guess you missed The Rat, The Clown and a all the numerous camp fodder that people predicted stardom for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rextilleon View Post
    Why do you need to hear reports. Rex and Beany drafted him--he can't miss.
    Once and always a jagoff.

    Regular season or off season.

    At least you're consistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Nut View Post
    Really?

    Guess you missed The Rat, The Clown and a all the numerous camp fodder that people predicted stardom for.
    I remember reading a lot about John Abraham everyday in his first training camp, in fact he went on to be as advertised. I think fans want to see something from Coples, something to look forward to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AceBoy View Post
    I remember reading a lot about John Abraham everyday in his first training camp, in fact he went on to be as advertised. I think fans want to see something from Coples, something to look forward to.
    Way to completely miss the point.

    Has nothing to do with this and fans going overboard with camp reports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AceBoy View Post
    I remember reading a lot about John Abraham everyday in his first training camp, in fact he went on to be as advertised. I think fans want to see something from Coples, something to look forward to.
    Absolutely. If you are going to be a monster then evidence of that begins showing up pretty early. Gholston did not register even one training camp sack in an entire career. An exaggeration but not by much. At some point, and we are not even close to that point with Coples, but at some point hearing nothing is significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EM31 View Post
    Absolutely. If you are going to be a monster then evidence of that begins showing up pretty early. Gholston did not register even one training camp sack in an entire career. An exaggeration but not by much. At some point, and we are not even close to that point with Coples, but at some point hearing nothing is significant.
    The Ghost of the Ghost is haunting us ... We all need to calm down ... Pre-season game one hasn't even occurred ...

    Now if the pre season comes and goes with zero sacks or tackles in the backfield ... Then get worried.

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    Just to take it off topic but where is Marcus Dixon and shouldn't he be battling for a starting job like against Devito. The kid has gotten better and can bring more to the D line then Devito. He really stepped up last season.

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    I think we'll begin to hear a lot more in regards to Quinton Coples today.

    Supposedly today is the day where we line up in goal line situations; where Coples could really impact/shine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NY2FLDWC85 View Post
    I think we'll begin to hear a lot more in regards to Quinton Coples today.

    Supposedly today is the day where we line up in goal line situations; where Coples could really impact/shine.
    I would think the goal line D would be Wilkenson, Pouha, Ellis and Devito. Rex and most coaches normally went with the bigger boys down there.

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