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    Is Maybin a Cameron Wake type?

    You may remember Cameron Wake coming out of Penn State a few years ago and not making an NFL roster and his career in the CFL before the Dolphins beat the Jets to him in 09. Wake was too small and couldn't hold on to any weight just like Maybin. I think they're similar players in terms of size and athletic ability. Wake and Maybin both look like they were shot out of a cannon and both were recruited by Penn State to pretty much fill the same rolls, to get after the QB. We all know that Wake is already considered one of the top pass rushers in the game, will Maybin soon join him?

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    They are nothing alike. Wake went undrafted and was not a highly thought of prospect. Maybin was the 11th pick in the draft and supposed to be a superstar.

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    Don't know about the comparison but It is really interesting on what Maybin is doing because it's certainly not common.

    The guy produced zero with Buffalo but came here and did a very good job last year. Now he's clearly dominating in practice and in scrimmages. He's only 24 years old so it makes sense age-wise.

    He's also a special character which is intriguing as well. Jets may have had a real find...

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    Wake also went to the CFL and dominated it. Maybin still hasn't proved he has any pass rush moves to beat an initial blocker. We can only hope he is anywhere close to Wake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toooon View Post
    Wake also went to the CFL and dominated it. Maybin still hasn't proved he has any pass rush moves to beat an initial blocker. We can only hope he is anywhere close to Wake.
    What does that even mean? It doesn't matter how you get to the QB, as long as you do it. Maybin showed last year he certainly has an ability to do that. How much of an ability, we'll find out more this season.

    He had 6 sacks last year, and a few turnovers forced given VERY minimal snaps. If he turns into a guy who can get double-digit sacks then he's an enormous find for this team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toooon View Post
    Wake also went to the CFL and dominated it. Maybin still hasn't proved he has any pass rush moves to beat an initial blocker. We can only hope he is anywhere close to Wake.
    Well apparently he has developed those moves and added strength to where they can't stop him in practice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NY's stepchild View Post
    Well apparently he has developed those moves and added strength to where they can't stop him in practice.
    OK, we like the sound of that BUT last year, many of his sacks , predominantly came from around the end not through the line. He literally was taken out of the play on many occasions by bigger players.

    I am hoping he becomes a player but last year he was a little too small to be a big time impact player other tyhan 3rd down.

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    Its not just about sacks with Maybin, he had a high pressure rate last season which is important. He almost had a few more sacks. With a improved interior pass rush, it should give more opportunities for Maybin to get sacks since the QB can't just up in the pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southparkcpa View Post
    OK, we like the sound of that BUT last year, many of his sacks , predominantly came from around the end not through the line. He literally was taken out of the play on many occasions by bigger players.

    I am hoping he becomes a player but last year he was a little too small to be a big time impact player other tyhan 3rd down.
    Many speed rushers are routinely taken out the plays every week. Jason Babin does what Maybin does every single play... speed rush around the edge. He produced 18 sacks last year.

    Maybin had 6 in a fraction of the time.

    With these speed rushers, you sacrifice some discipline to get the big plays.

    They already have scrubs like McIntyre to hold the point of attack. Who needs that? This D needs players to sack and scare QBs into throwing early.

    It's a huge benefit to the whole D if the QB is worried about Maybin coming around the corner.

    Maybin should be a regular player this year. 10 sacks is the minimum if he's in for most of the snaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southparkcpa View Post
    OK, we like the sound of that BUT last year, many of his sacks , predominantly came from around the end not through the line. He literally was taken out of the play on many occasions by bigger players.

    I am hoping he becomes a player but last year he was a little too small to be a big time impact player other tyhan 3rd down.
    You don't have to be that big. What you need is some counter moves that look exactly the same. Maybe a swim move, which I hear he has developed pretty nicely, and a spin move on obvious passing situations. Maybe throw in a bull rush if the guy is really jumping on the outside move. From all accounts, he is really learning how to use his hands. Can't wait to see it live for myself. I agree with Rhodes as well. If we can get some movement up front this year it will turn those pressures into sacks.

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    Wayne Hunter dominated Cameron Wake last year, so lets hope Maybin turns out to be better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toooon View Post
    Wake also went to the CFL and dominated it. Maybin still hasn't proved he has any pass rush moves to beat an initial blocker. We can only hope he is anywhere close to Wake.
    Maybin led the team with sacks and didn't even start the season with us, not to mention got 10-12 snaps a game tops. He also had like 15 hurries and pressures or whatever Rex mentioned. He forced TO's with strip sacks and tackles. If he's a 1 trick pony he does that trick VERY good. He's also finally developing into his body. He came into the league way too young and was asked to play every down. Now he's 24 years old and it seems like he's a journey man who's topped out his potential but he's actually just starting to figure it out both physically and mentally. As for Wake he's on the decline and was thrown around last year left and right. If Maybin plays as much as Wake does he'll put up much better numbers this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath View Post
    They are nothing alike. Wake went undrafted and was not a highly thought of prospect. Maybin was the 11th pick in the draft and supposed to be a superstar.
    He didn't say that Maybin and Wake arrived in the NFL in the same manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsfan1983 View Post
    What does that even mean? It doesn't matter how you get to the QB, as long as you do it. Maybin showed last year he certainly has an ability to do that. How much of an ability, we'll find out more this season.

    He had 6 sacks last year, and a few turnovers forced given VERY minimal snaps. If he turns into a guy who can get double-digit sacks then he's an enormous find for this team.

    Really? There is no difference between a rusher who only ever gets to the QB on broken plays that take 6 seconds or more, and a rusher who can beat o-linemen 1-on-1, and forces offenses to think about double-teams and QBs to have one eye on him at all times? No difference between those things? Please.

    There is certainly a value to what Maybin brings in terms of speed and motor, and I love his attitude and potential. But don't compare him to elite rushers like Wake, Ware, et al, until he shows a lot more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NY's stepchild View Post
    Well apparently he has developed those moves and added strength to where they can't stop him in practice.

    That is great to hear. I hope it's more about Maybin's improvement and less about our O-line being shaky. I really look forward to seeing Maybin in these preseason games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsfan1983 View Post
    What does that even mean? It doesn't matter how you get to the QB, as long as you do it. Maybin showed last year he certainly has an ability to do that. How much of an ability, we'll find out more this season.

    He had 6 sacks last year, and a few turnovers forced given VERY minimal snaps. If he turns into a guy who can get double-digit sacks then he's an enormous find for this team.
    From reports Maybin has been tearing it up in camp and has been quite the studious pupil. Apparently he's been working on expanding his pass rushing repertoire. Double digit sacks over the season is definitely possible

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    Maybin will be fired up vs. Buffalo Game 1. Can't wait to see him line up on 3rd and longs.

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    I just did some research on Wake. He was on the Giants practice squad in 2005. Can you imagine had they held onto him.





    Thats why I am always in favor of taking the Giants and Steelers scrap.

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    So Maybin is a speed rush guy, agreed.

    But he is not with out skills to shed a blocker.

    Posted below, is this not called a swim move?

    (short video of Maybin sacking Grossman)
    http://www.newyorkjets.com/photos-an...d-07cc4815cbb1

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