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    Post game thoughts - Jets/Bengals

    First preason game, new offense, a lot of new players got looks in key spots on offense and defense.

    Offense.

    - OL was the bigger story, overall they struggled, pass protection was poor, blitz pick-up did not look good by the TE's. To me, the injuries on the OL, players playing out of position or rotating in and out of positions maded it hard for either of the 3 units to get any continuity. It's a new offense, a new system, new blocking schemes. People are panicking, but when you have players on the shelf or not at practice (i.e. Mangold) it's tough to establish that chemistry. Obviously, it's a unit that will need a lot of work, but we need to be patient, let the first and second units get healthy and back on the field with players at their positions.

    - Cumberland has shown the ability at TE, especially as a receiver, he too is coming off of injury, but the pass protection at this position was a huge issue last year, and it isn't off to a good start this year, this MUST improve. I'm still convinced there will be another move made at the position, but I think the players on the team have the ability, I like Cumberland as a #2 TE. I was hoping to see more Baker with first unit, but it's the first pre-season game, and the game plan was very vanilla, that much was obvious.

    - I thought McKnight looked very good, probably the best of the RB's out there. Powell had some trouble following his blockers, but it's hard to evaluate the RB and QB positions with the OL not playing well. I thought Ganaway flashed a lot in that 4th quarter, and showed good receiving ability.

    - Sanchez to me looked strong and confident, had nice zip the passes he did throw, his pocket awareness looked very good, and did a good job sliding when he had a little time, but again, with the OL not playing will in pass protection, it was tough for Sanchez to get into any kind of flow.

    - Tebow is going to be a big pick-up for this team, and will be a real weapon, he really has a nice feel at QB especially when the play breaks down. His elusiveness is pretty amazing, when you think the pocket and defense is collapsing on him, he still gets out of it, I can very easily see how valuable he will be in the wildcat package and in short distance packages, just love the pick-up. I was disappointed with McElroy, OL didn't give him much time either, but I thought McElroy held on to the ball too long, I was hoping Simms would get a look, but I get the feeling the team wants to hide him and stash him on the PS.

    - Hill flashed, and then dropped a ball on a play he has to have. Chalk it up to rookie jitters, he will need work, but I think he has a role on this team.

    - Patrick Turner can be a solid #4 WR on this team. The offense definitely missed Holmes and Kerley. I thought Pollard flashed a lot in the game tonight. Was hoping to see more from Schilens, I think it's a strong possibility that we could see the team make a move for a player at WR, is Harvin a legit possibility? Hoping Kerley gets back soon, Jets need a player at this position, defenses will not respect the passing game without one.


    Defense

    - Coples had a great night for his rookie debut, he played a lot, was gassed, but made plays, and made plays at every level, first team and then later in the game. Everyone who had concerns about this player should have come away thinking this kid already looks the part and looks to have the potential to be a special player

    - Jets look very strong and deep on the DL, they are fast and strong. Their #4/5 DE Jay Richardson had a strong night. Ellis flashed, Wilkerson stood out. This is going to be a fun unit to watch, they are young and deep. What was once the weakest unit on the team during Rex' first year, they look to be one of the strongest, a lot of upside with this unit, and a chance to be very good.

    - Jets have big decisions to make at LB. Pace I thought looked ok, I've read how some said he looked slow, not sure what you were watching, he was in the backfield, he was playing sideline to sideline. The player who I think could be in trouble is Bryan Thomas. With the Jets playing more 4-3 this year, it will be interesting to see how many LB's they keep on the roster. At OLB, as of right now, they have Pace, Thomas as starters, Maybin and then I guess Sapp as the possible top 4. McIntyre had a strong night, real strong. He looks quicker this year, more confident, I think he could actually give Bryan Thomas a push for a roster position, reason for this is because they are essentially the same kind of player, they play the strong side, McIntyre is the younger more hungry player, Thomas is the veteran coming off of an Achilles injury. Then the Jets have to consider players like Sapp and Dowtin. Dowtin is built like a truck, looks to be a great athlete, but probably a little raw. He was a big time prospect in college, before some problems got him kicked off the Georgia football program, but he can play, and looked real good on ST's tonight. Sapp has had a great camp, then hurt his ankle last week. How many OLB's do the Jets keep? If they keep 5, Pace, Thomas, Maybin, Sapp, and McIntyre? Maybe the team looks ahead to the future, and don't want to risk trying to slide Dowtin to the PS, and maybe they cut ties with Thomas, elevate McIntyre, and keep Dowtin on the team? Sapp and McIntyre battle out for the starting role, Maybin plays in his specialist role and in passing situations. The OLB position will be a real battle this pre-season.

    - ILB is another area where the Jets have talent. How many players do they keep, Harris, Scott, Davis, Bellore? What about Mauga? Do they keep 5 ILB's? Is there a battle between Mauga and Bellore? I got to think Harris, Scott, and Davis are definites, Mauga and Bellore battle for the final spot. If the Jets keep 5 OLB's, McIntyre is a player that can probably play inside, if Dowtin makes the team, he has versatility to play inside. The LB position is a fascinating position to watch this pre-season, a lot of competition there. I know Scott didn't look very good covering a RB out of the flat, to me that is a role that Scott is not going to have into the regular season.

    - Safety I think we're going to love the overhaul at safety. Looks like Smith will be alright, I know some want to see the Jets move on from Smith, but I don't think fans realize how valuable Smith is, in rotation as the #3 safety, and especially on ST's, he's far too valuable. Then we got the kids Allen and Bush, the Jets could keep 5 safeties on the roster this year, the last 3 years, they've only kept 4 players. The goal line stand where we held the Bengals to a FG, that was a big possession, I thought our safeties came up big, all 3. Landry made a nice play on 3rd down to force a throw to the back of the EZ by Dalton, his speed really showed on that play.

    - CB After Revis and Cro, to me, it's Wilson, Lankster, and Posey at CB. Trufant had a brutal night, and no other player stood out at CB. Steed could be a PS candidate, Fletcher might have potential, but I didn't see much from him tonight, Jets secondary is loaded. If I had to guess, they will keep 10, 5 CB, and 5 S's. Revis, Cro, Wilson, Lankster, Posey, Landry, Bell, Smith, Allen, and Bush.

    The kicker competition is another battle that not many are talking about, both Brown and Folk look good, and it's been a real tight race in camp. Folk has had almost a perfect camp, but Brown is said to have a slightly bigger leg, it's a bigger competition that nobody is talking about.

    Overall, a so-so performance, defense looked strong, offense had its moments, but OL play was shaky, as players return from injury and back into rotation, I think things will settle down, but like the WR position, it seems WR and OL, especially OT, are positions where we could see Tannenbaum make a move. It's a new offense, we should expect some of the issues on offense, especially with OL out of sync, and players missing at the WR position.

    Best part of the nigth, no injuries, and on a night where it seemed the Bengals lost 3 key players, and there have already been a lot of injuries throughout the league on the opening week of the pre-season, Jets came away unscathed!
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    Grades:

    Offense: F
    Defense: C (very impressed with Coples)
    Special Teams: D- (Had a punt blocked and shanked one 25 yards)
    Overall: D

    Not impressed. We look like a 5 win team with or without Santonio.

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    Do you think that McKnight could step up and possibly take the starting role?
    I'm getting sick of shonn green trying to going for 3,4 yards like he can never bust a big one. I don't think he has the explosiveness that Joe McKnight has

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TJ Sanchez View Post
    Do you think that McKnight could step up and possibly take the starting role?
    I'm getting sick of shonn green trying to going for 3,4 yards like he can never bust a big one. I don't think he has the explosiveness that Joe McKnight has
    No. He's not strong enough. If we had a line, Shonne Greene and Powell would be much better, which would allow a small guy like McKnight to break things.


    We should have picked up Lamar miller for 4th round pick, he would have helped us significantly, but.. without a line on the right side, we're stuck.....

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    This is the most talented Jets team in the last 30 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAR I View Post


    This is the most talented Jets team in the last 30 years.

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    Lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigragu View Post
    Lmao
    The Blind Homer Cult shall pay the price for their lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAR I View Post
    The Blind Homer Cult shall pay the price for their lies.

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    **** off attention whore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Ray19 View Post
    First preason game, new offense, a lot of new players got looks in key spots on offense and defense.

    Offense.

    - OL was the bigger story, overall they struggled, pass protection was poor, blitz pick-up did not look good by the TE's. To me, the injuries on the OL, players playing out of position or rotating in and out of positions maded it hard for either of the 3 units to get any continuity. It's a new offense, a new system, new blocking schemes. People are panicking, but when you have players on the shelf or not at practice (i.e. Mangold) it's tough to establish that chemistry. Obviously, it's a unit that will need a lot of work, but we need to be patient, let the first and second units get healthy and back on the field with players at their positions.

    - Cumberland has shown the ability at TE, especially as a receiver, he too is coming off of injury, but the pass protection at this position was a huge issue last year, and it isn't off to a good start this year, this MUST improve. I'm still convinced there will be another move made at the position, but I think the players on the team have the ability, I like Cumberland as a #2 TE. I was hoping to see more Baker with first unit, but it's the first pre-season game, and the game plan was very vanilla, that much was obvious.

    - I thought McKnight looked very good, probably the best of the RB's out there. Powell had some trouble following his blockers, but it's hard to evaluate the RB and QB positions with the OL not playing well. I thought Ganaway flashed a lot in that 4th quarter, and showed good receiving ability.

    - Sanchez to me looked strong and confident, had nice zip the passes he did throw, his pocket awareness looked very good, and did a good job sliding when he had a little time, but again, with the OL not playing will in pass protection, it was tough for Sanchez to get into any kind of flow.

    - Tebow is going to be a big pick-up for this team, and will be a real weapon, he really has a nice feel at QB especially when the play breaks down. His elusiveness is pretty amazing, when you think the pocket and defense is collapsing on him, he still gets out of it, I can very easily see how valuable he will be in the wildcat package and in short distance packages, just love the pick-up. I was disappointed with McElroy, OL didn't give him much time either, but I thought McElroy held on to the ball too long, I was hoping Simms would get a look, but I get the feeling the team wants to hide him and stash him on the PS.

    - Hill flashed, and then dropped a ball on a play he has to have. Chalk it up to rookie jitters, he will need work, but I think he has a role on this team.

    - Patrick Turner can be a solid #4 WR on this team. The offense definitely missed Holmes and Kerley. I thought Pollard flashed a lot in the game tonight. Was hoping to see more from Schilens, I think it's a strong possibility that we could see the team make a move for a player at WR, is Harvin a legit possibility? Hoping Kerley gets back soon, Jets need a player at this position, defenses will not respect the passing game without one.


    Defense

    - Coples had a great night for his rookie debut, he played a lot, was gassed, but made plays, and made plays at every level, first team and then later in the game. Everyone who had concerns about this player should have come away thinking this kid already looks the part and looks to have the potential to be a special player

    - Jets look very strong and deep on the DL, they are fast and strong. Their #4/5 DE Jay Richardson had a strong night. Ellis flashed, Wilkerson stood out. This is going to be a fun unit to watch, they are young and deep. What was once the weakest unit on the team during Rex' first year, they look to be one of the strongest, a lot of upside with this unit, and a chance to be very good.

    - Jets have big decisions to make at LB. Pace I thought looked ok, I've read how some said he looked slow, not sure what you were watching, he was in the backfield, he was playing sideline to sideline. The player who I think could be in trouble is Bryan Thomas. With the Jets playing more 4-3 this year, it will be interesting to see how many LB's they keep on the roster. At OLB, as of right now, they have Pace, Thomas as starters, Maybin and then I guess Sapp as the possible top 4. McIntyre had a strong night, real strong. He looks quicker this year, more confident, I think he could actually give Bryan Thomas a push for a roster position, reason for this is because they are essentially the same kind of player, they play the strong side, McIntyre is the younger more hungry player, Thomas is the veteran coming off of an Achilles injury. Then the Jets have to consider players like Sapp and Dowtin. Dowtin is built like a truck, looks to be a great athlete, but probably a little raw. He was a big time prospect in college, before some problems got him kicked off the Georgia football program, but he can play, and looked real good on ST's tonight. Sapp has had a great camp, then hurt his ankle last week. How many OLB's do the Jets keep? If they keep 5, Pace, Thomas, Maybin, Sapp, and McIntyre? Maybe the team looks ahead to the future, and don't want to risk trying to slide Dowtin to the PS, and maybe they cut ties with Thomas, elevate McIntyre, and keep Dowtin on the team? Sapp and McIntyre battle out for the starting role, Maybin plays in his specialist role and in passing situations. The OLB position will be a real battle this pre-season.

    - ILB is another area where the Jets have talent. How many players do they keep, Harris, Scott, Davis, Bellore? What about Mauga? Do they keep 5 ILB's? Is there a battle between Mauga and Bellore? I got to think Harris, Scott, and Davis are definites, Mauga and Bellore battle for the final spot. If the Jets keep 5 OLB's, McIntyre is a player that can probably play inside, if Dowtin makes the team, he has versatility to play inside. The LB position is a fascinating position to watch this pre-season, a lot of competition there. I know Scott didn't look very good covering a RB out of the flat, to me that is a role that Scott is not going to have into the regular season.

    - Safety I think we're going to love the overhaul at safety. Looks like Smith will be alright, I know some want to see the Jets move on from Smith, but I don't think fans realize how valuable Smith is, in rotation as the #3 safety, and especially on ST's, he's far too valuable. Then we got the kids Allen and Bush, the Jets could keep 5 safeties on the roster this year, the last 3 years, they've only kept 4 players. The goal line stand where we held the Bengals to a FG, that was a big possession, I thought our safeties came up big, all 3. Landry made a nice play on 3rd down to force a throw to the back of the EZ by Dalton, his speed really showed on that play.

    - CB After Revis and Cro, to me, it's Wilson, Lankster, and Posey at CB. Trufant had a brutal night, and no other player stood out at CB. Steed could be a PS candidate, Fletcher might have potential, but I didn't see much from him tonight, Jets secondary is loaded. If I had to guess, they will keep 10, 5 CB, and 5 S's. Revis, Cro, Wilson, Lankster, Posey, Landry, Bell, Smith, Allen, and Bush.

    The kicker competition is another battle that not many are talking about, both Brown and Folk look good, and it's been a real tight race in camp. Folk has had almost a perfect camp, but Brown is said to have a slightly bigger leg, it's a bigger competition that nobody is talking about.

    Overall, a so-so performance, defense looked strong, offense had its moments, but OL play was shaky, as players return from injury and back into rotation, I think things will settle down, but like the WR position, it seems WR and OL, especially OT, are positions where we could see Tannenbaum make a move. It's a new offense, we should expect some of the issues on offense, especially with OL out of sync, and players missing at the WR position.

    Best part of the nigth, no injuries, and on a night where it seemed the Bengals lost 3 key players, and there have already been a lot of injuries throughout the league on the opening week of the pre-season, Jets came away unscathed!
    Good post.

    Lots of good points and I agree with a lot, but...

    Defense was not strong, our ones especially at LB were weak. Cinci ran all day on us, they had time to pass with their 1's. Made catches as well.

    Cumberland cost us a sack, #2 TE needs to block. He looked silly. We need to upgrade this.

    OL -- poor, even the #1's could not run block on the left side, our strength.

    McKnight can not handle the big load, he'd get killed, he's #3 in my eyes behind Greene & Powell. could not handle the pounding.

    Sanchez laid down a couple of times shades of Ken O'brien, it was sad. Tebow looked confident with the second string line, that was horrible. Made things happen, which I like. I want a QB to make it happen and his legs work well. His arm, however... Tebow needs to learn to point his foot at the target, and throw through the target, he'd be 100X better if he gets that down. The other thing is, he telegraphs.

    Hill is going to be a Michael Irvine type, strong, big catches, glad he dropped it in preseason, to be expected, however, he's gonna be good barring injury.

    I'll take Brown as the new kicker, much stronger leg and dead on accurate.

    Db's need help, not sure we're good enough in our backups and safety is a concern even with the pickups,as we're thin if we get injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Ray19 View Post
    **** off attention whore.
    Looks like you'll have to pull your annual "run away and hide instead of facing the consequences of my stupid predictions" move much earlier this year.

    Since you won't be around in October, let me wish you a very happy Halloween.

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    Tebow is a real wild card. Not sure what to expect. Major concerns with the O line, along with the rest of the sane world

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    SAR your kind of rediculous. It's one preseason game. The starters played a quarter without 2 of their WRs and the RT ( I know it's hunter but he's the one who's been getting most of the reps and practice and may look like the hunter from '10 )

    It's also the first game for these guys in a new system. Not just Sanchez needs to adjust, the WRs, the RBs, and especially the OL. The blocking scheme changed and is not easy to switch after a few weeks of training camp. I expect the o-line to be in full form around week 3. Also the defense (besides scott who will be replaced by Davis) looked awesome. the dline may be able to wreak havoc this season which is something we couldn't say for a long time

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAR I View Post
    Looks like you'll have to pull your annual "run away and hide instead of facing the consequences of my stupid predictions" move much earlier this year.

    Since you won't be around in October, let me wish you a very happy Halloween.

    SAR I
    There was nothing wrong with the post, there was commentary, both good and bad, but you couldn't help yourself, another opportunity for you to jump in and wave your ass up high and shout for attention.

    Your post in this thread was unnecessary, yet typical. It exemplifies who you've become on this board, and there are MANY like me who think the same way.

    GFY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Ray19 View Post
    First preason game, new offense, a lot of new players got looks in key spots on offense and defense.

    Offense.

    - OL was the bigger story, overall they struggled, pass protection was poor, blitz pick-up did not look good by the TE's. To me, the injuries on the OL, players playing out of position or rotating in and out of positions maded it hard for either of the 3 units to get any continuity. It's a new offense, a new system, new blocking schemes. People are panicking, but when you have players on the shelf or not at practice (i.e. Mangold) it's tough to establish that chemistry. Obviously, it's a unit that will need a lot of work, but we need to be patient, let the first and second units get healthy and back on the field with players at their positions.

    - Cumberland has shown the ability at TE, especially as a receiver, he too is coming off of injury, but the pass protection at this position was a huge issue last year, and it isn't off to a good start this year, this MUST improve. I'm still convinced there will be another move made at the position, but I think the players on the team have the ability, I like Cumberland as a #2 TE. I was hoping to see more Baker with first unit, but it's the first pre-season game, and the game plan was very vanilla, that much was obvious.

    - I thought McKnight looked very good, probably the best of the RB's out there. Powell had some trouble following his blockers, but it's hard to evaluate the RB and QB positions with the OL not playing well. I thought Ganaway flashed a lot in that 4th quarter, and showed good receiving ability.

    - Sanchez to me looked strong and confident, had nice zip the passes he did throw, his pocket awareness looked very good, and did a good job sliding when he had a little time, but again, with the OL not playing will in pass protection, it was tough for Sanchez to get into any kind of flow.

    - Tebow is going to be a big pick-up for this team, and will be a real weapon, he really has a nice feel at QB especially when the play breaks down. His elusiveness is pretty amazing, when you think the pocket and defense is collapsing on him, he still gets out of it, I can very easily see how valuable he will be in the wildcat package and in short distance packages, just love the pick-up. I was disappointed with McElroy, OL didn't give him much time either, but I thought McElroy held on to the ball too long, I was hoping Simms would get a look, but I get the feeling the team wants to hide him and stash him on the PS.

    - Hill flashed, and then dropped a ball on a play he has to have. Chalk it up to rookie jitters, he will need work, but I think he has a role on this team.

    - Patrick Turner can be a solid #4 WR on this team. The offense definitely missed Holmes and Kerley. I thought Pollard flashed a lot in the game tonight. Was hoping to see more from Schilens, I think it's a strong possibility that we could see the team make a move for a player at WR, is Harvin a legit possibility? Hoping Kerley gets back soon, Jets need a player at this position, defenses will not respect the passing game without one.


    Defense

    - Coples had a great night for his rookie debut, he played a lot, was gassed, but made plays, and made plays at every level, first team and then later in the game. Everyone who had concerns about this player should have come away thinking this kid already looks the part and looks to have the potential to be a special player

    - Jets look very strong and deep on the DL, they are fast and strong. Their #4/5 DE Jay Richardson had a strong night. Ellis flashed, Wilkerson stood out. This is going to be a fun unit to watch, they are young and deep. What was once the weakest unit on the team during Rex' first year, they look to be one of the strongest, a lot of upside with this unit, and a chance to be very good.

    - Jets have big decisions to make at LB. Pace I thought looked ok, I've read how some said he looked slow, not sure what you were watching, he was in the backfield, he was playing sideline to sideline. The player who I think could be in trouble is Bryan Thomas. With the Jets playing more 4-3 this year, it will be interesting to see how many LB's they keep on the roster. At OLB, as of right now, they have Pace, Thomas as starters, Maybin and then I guess Sapp as the possible top 4. McIntyre had a strong night, real strong. He looks quicker this year, more confident, I think he could actually give Bryan Thomas a push for a roster position, reason for this is because they are essentially the same kind of player, they play the strong side, McIntyre is the younger more hungry player, Thomas is the veteran coming off of an Achilles injury. Then the Jets have to consider players like Sapp and Dowtin. Dowtin is built like a truck, looks to be a great athlete, but probably a little raw. He was a big time prospect in college, before some problems got him kicked off the Georgia football program, but he can play, and looked real good on ST's tonight. Sapp has had a great camp, then hurt his ankle last week. How many OLB's do the Jets keep? If they keep 5, Pace, Thomas, Maybin, Sapp, and McIntyre? Maybe the team looks ahead to the future, and don't want to risk trying to slide Dowtin to the PS, and maybe they cut ties with Thomas, elevate McIntyre, and keep Dowtin on the team? Sapp and McIntyre battle out for the starting role, Maybin plays in his specialist role and in passing situations. The OLB position will be a real battle this pre-season.

    - ILB is another area where the Jets have talent. How many players do they keep, Harris, Scott, Davis, Bellore? What about Mauga? Do they keep 5 ILB's? Is there a battle between Mauga and Bellore? I got to think Harris, Scott, and Davis are definites, Mauga and Bellore battle for the final spot. If the Jets keep 5 OLB's, McIntyre is a player that can probably play inside, if Dowtin makes the team, he has versatility to play inside. The LB position is a fascinating position to watch this pre-season, a lot of competition there. I know Scott didn't look very good covering a RB out of the flat, to me that is a role that Scott is not going to have into the regular season.

    - Safety I think we're going to love the overhaul at safety. Looks like Smith will be alright, I know some want to see the Jets move on from Smith, but I don't think fans realize how valuable Smith is, in rotation as the #3 safety, and especially on ST's, he's far too valuable. Then we got the kids Allen and Bush, the Jets could keep 5 safeties on the roster this year, the last 3 years, they've only kept 4 players. The goal line stand where we held the Bengals to a FG, that was a big possession, I thought our safeties came up big, all 3. Landry made a nice play on 3rd down to force a throw to the back of the EZ by Dalton, his speed really showed on that play.

    - CB After Revis and Cro, to me, it's Wilson, Lankster, and Posey at CB. Trufant had a brutal night, and no other player stood out at CB. Steed could be a PS candidate, Fletcher might have potential, but I didn't see much from him tonight, Jets secondary is loaded. If I had to guess, they will keep 10, 5 CB, and 5 S's. Revis, Cro, Wilson, Lankster, Posey, Landry, Bell, Smith, Allen, and Bush.

    The kicker competition is another battle that not many are talking about, both Brown and Folk look good, and it's been a real tight race in camp. Folk has had almost a perfect camp, but Brown is said to have a slightly bigger leg, it's a bigger competition that nobody is talking about.

    Overall, a so-so performance, defense looked strong, offense had its moments, but OL play was shaky, as players return from injury and back into rotation, I think things will settle down, but like the WR position, it seems WR and OL, especially OT, are positions where we could see Tannenbaum make a move. It's a new offense, we should expect some of the issues on offense, especially with OL out of sync, and players missing at the WR position.

    Best part of the nigth, no injuries, and on a night where it seemed the Bengals lost 3 key players, and there have already been a lot of injuries throughout the league on the opening week of the pre-season, Jets came away unscathed!

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    i dont think the issue with mcknight is he's too weeak - he just doesn't maximize his dynamism.

    he pushes too hard to be a in-btween the tackles rb. but when he kicks it outside there's never that second cut to find the cut-back lane successfully and seam it for a big gain.

    i dont get that about him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Ray19 View Post
    **** off attention whore.
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    You live in such a strange, happy, green-hued world Double Ray. The sad truth is, if Tebow had completed his bounce pass to Cumberland instead of it being picked off, I'd probably be right there with you drinking green beer and making Super Bowl predictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAR I View Post


    This is the most talented Jets team in the last 30 years.

    SAR I
    "after this game..not sure if we are gonna win another game"


    SAR 1- circa 2010

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TJ Sanchez View Post
    Do you think that McKnight could step up and possibly take the starting role?
    I'm getting sick of shonn green trying to going for 3,4 yards like he can never bust a big one. I don't think he has the explosiveness that Joe McKnight has
    Quote Originally Posted by SCITSCAT View Post
    No. He's not strong enough. If we had a line, Shonne Greene and Powell would be much better, which would allow a small guy like McKnight to break things.

    Shonne Greene has been living off one run 3 years ago in the playoffs against SD. He's slow, not particularly powerful, and has absolutely no moves at all. There was a play that Benjarvis Green Eliis made against us where we had penetration in the backfield by 4 yards yet he was still able to get around it and turn it into a solid positive gain. That's the difference between Shonne Greene and a relatively average at best RB. Greene can't make anything happen at all. Like SCITSCAT said, if we had a great OL maybe he'd be ok but then again so would a ****-ton of other crappy RB's. The fact is we NEED McKnight to figure it out and be the guy. When McKnight came out of HS he was considered the #1 prospect. Somehow he needs to regain that, mostly mentally IMO, and take the damn job that's sitting there on a platter for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfine350z View Post
    "after this game..not sure if we are gonna win another game"

    SAR 1- circa 2010
    That was the reverse jinx. It worked, too. You aren't too sharp now, are you.

    SAR I

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