Bart Scott and Calvin Pace getting beat did discourage. Hopefully that'll clean up, and I bet it will.
That OL... it has too much talent in its prime to look that terrible. I mean, Sanchez AND Tebow were both rushed and it looked like last year all over again. They need time, especially Mark (at least Tebow can break some tackles and make people miss). I know it's preseason, but when some QBs can scratch their balls and blow kisses to their moms, dads, wives and kids before they throw, and ours look like scared chickens running around in circles, it's a bad thing.
Last edited by Dreamers; 08-12-2012 at 12:34 PM.
James Harrison and Woodley HARDLY EVER or NEVER cover (harrison 5 career ints in 9 years and woodley 4 in 5 years). The steelers defense works because Farrior and Timmons, their ILBs are excellent in coverage.
For the last time, our defense does not need pace to cover anyone, that isn't his job. We need our ILBs to cover and that is the problem and why davis needs to start playing over bart
As far as depth and personnel, are you honestly saying sergio kindle is better then what we have. He has never played and has a fractured skull????? Jason Worldis, was a talented college player but has doing zero in the nfl. Now he is being brought along in their defense very slowly, which is a big part of the reason pitts is so successful, but the jets are doing the same exact thing.
Who knows what we have with sapp, maybin, davis and dowtin. But they are all young, fast and talented. If 2 of them make it as starters thats a great job.
Scott should have been cut, and the Oline should have been reworked.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1...hero-blackburnNow where where the Ss on that play?In other words, if Chase Blackburn is making a play, it's usually going to be on a running back, or on Brady himself -- on a scramble. Not a pass.
And damn sure not a pass 50 yards down the field.
What was Chase Blackburn doing 50 yards off the line of scrimmage in the fourth quarter of Super Bowl XLVI? Well, he was doing his job. On this play, he was given the assignment of tracking Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski, and this play went haywire.
Last edited by Dreamers; 08-12-2012 at 07:04 PM.
So an OLB who is lined up on the LOS and a TE who is also on the line, the OLB should read him? How would you do that exactly? If you asked them to read the TE, and then decide to rush, it would be a ridiculous waste of talent. That is not the way a 3-4 defense is played. If you want to talk about a 4-3 weak side LB, deciding to rush or cover a TE then what you are saying makes sense. Can woodley and harrison cover, yes. Do they cover 5-10% of the time, yes. That does NOT mean they regularly are in coverage.
And if you are talking about bryan thomas' role in our defense then that also makes sense. But we do not run a traditional 3-4 and pace does not have TE coverage responsibility 85% of the time.
Will maybin be asked to occasionally cover, absolutely, but again...it will be 10% of the time or less.
Oh, and please don't forget, chase blackburn plays MLB in a 4-3, so that argument makes no sense.
Jets LBs need to be overhauled. Maybin, DD, Sapp need to start seeing some major playing time this year then the Jets cut bait with the overpaid fossils bext year.
Good thing we have such a (potentially) great DL. Wee need them to overwhelm the OL early and often, bludgeon the QB and RB to conceal the LBs weaknesses.
In Oakland Bush and Boss lead the team in yards vs us. NE game one we gave up 100 yards to TEs and RB. Gronk owned us in game 2 we gave up over 150 yards to TEs alone. Ray Rice and Ed Dickerson both lead Balt with 109 receiving vs us. Lance Ball and Dante Rosario had 44 yards combined almost 50% of Denvers production. Celek 156!! Witten 110 with anther 70 by RBs and other TEs. In SD both TE lead the game with a combined 99 yards and also 26 to Mathews. Scott Chandler in Buff had 9 of his 38 catches vs us thank god buff didn't have a good TE. Washington both Davis 99 Helu 42 lead the team that day. Yeah OK our DB are shutdown but that is a lot of yards by most of the TEs and RBs we faced last year. I'll say close to 40% of all the passing yards we did give up came from RBs or TEs. Part of that was bad Ss but a lot of it was just lack of LB coverage on quick passes that turned into big plays. That is a huge 5-10% if you ask me.
FIrst off, I appreciate the discussion....as for once on this board its actually about football, and I understand what you are talking about conceptually.
However you have to separate RBs and TEs.
We have been notoriously bad vs screen passes and that is because we do not have sideline to sideline LBs, which I will concede, but only 1 OLB can defend a screen, that falls more on the ILBs yet again.
As for as the TE....what LBs in the entire league cover Gronk/hernandez? That has been on our safeties, 100%