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    Ammo buys, what's it all about?

    This is the third time I have read about these ammo purchases (highlighted below). The future as the government sees it may not be so rosy


    http://www.infowars.com/social-secur...point-bullets/


    Social Security Administration To Purchase 174 Thousand Rounds Of Hollow Point Bullets

    Preparing for civil unrest? Ammunition to be delivered to 41 locations across U.S.
    Paul Joseph Watson
    Infowars.com
    Wednesday, August 15, 2012
    First it was the Department of Homeland Security, then it was the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and now the Social Security Administration is set to purchase 174,000 rounds of hollow point bullets that will be delivered to 41 locations across the country.

    A solicitation posted by the SSA on the FedBizOpps website asks for contractors to supply 174,000 rounds of “.357 Sig 125 grain bonded jacketed hollow point pistol ammunition.”
    An online ammunition retailer describes the bullets as suitable “for peak performance rivaling and sometimes surpassing handloads in many guns,” noting that the ammo is “a great personal defense bullet.”
    The synopsis to the solicitation adds that the ammunition is to be shipped to 41 locations within 60 days of purchase. A separate spreadsheet lists those locations, which include the Social Security headquarters in Baltimore, Maryland as well as major cities across the country including Los Angeles, Detroit, Oklahoma City, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, Denver, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and Seattle.
    Hollow point bullets are designed to expand as they enter the body, causing maximum damage by tearing apart internal organs.
    It’s not outlandish to suggest that the Social Security Administration is purchasing the bullets as part of preparations for civil unrest. Social security welfare is estimated to keep around 40 per cent of senior citizens out of poverty. Should the tap run dry in the aftermath of an economic collapse which the Federal Reserve has already told top banks to prepare for, domestic disorder could ensue if people are refused their benefits.

    Indeed, earlier this year the Department of Homeland Security ran a drill called Operation Shield which included turning the entrance of a Florida Social Security office into a checkpoint manned by Federal Protective Service officers armed with semiautomatic rifles.
    “With their blue and white SUVs circled around the Main Street office, at least one official was posted on the door with a semiautomatic rifle, randomly checking identifications. And other officers, some with K-9s, sifted through the building,” reported the Daily Commercial.
    A rash of solicitations by federal agencies for hollow point bullets in recent months has stoked fears that the government is preparing for civil unrest caused by a financial collapse on a scale similar or even larger to scenes already witnessed in Europe over the last two years.
    As we reported yesterday, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has put out a contract for 46,000 rounds of hollow point bullets along with 500 paper targets.
    Despite initially asking the bullets to be delivered to the National Weather Service, NOAA claimed this was a “clerical error” and insisted the ammunition was being sent to the Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement. Why powerful hollow point bullets that are designed to tear apart internal organs are needed for practice shooting at paper targets has not been explained.
    Back in March, Homeland Security purchased 450 million rounds of .40-caliber hollow point bullets that are designed to expand upon entry and cause maximum organ damage, prompting questions as to why the DHS needed such a large amount of powerful bullets merely for training purposes.
    This was followed by another DHS solicitation asking for a further 750 million rounds of assorted bullets, including 357 mag rounds that are able to penetrate walls.
    The DHS recently put out an order for riot gear in preparation for the upcoming DNC, RNC and presidential inauguration. The U.S. Army is also busy buying similar equipment.
    The DHS also recently purchased a number of bullet-proof checkpoint booths that include ‘stop and go’ lights.

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    Routine Riot Control prep?

    We'd need someone with inside knowledge of the depts in question to get a real answer tbqh. Sounds bad, but probably nothing.

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    Why 174,000?

    Why not 175,000?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlumberKhan View Post
    Why 174,000?

    Why not 175,000?
    Government Spreadsheets only have to balance to the nearest thousand?

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    Target ammo which is not generally hollow point, has different characteristics that makes it perform different then defense ammo.

    As a rule, those that carry a gun for defense need to train with there defensive ammunition.

    Most federal bureaus have an armed branch. Federal bureau of Farm, Labor, FFA, CDC, Indian affairs, Education, and so on and so forth. All employees of these bureaus by default are able to carry concealed anywhere legally, though most do not authorize the majority of there employees to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnails View Post
    Most federal bureaus have an armed branch.
    NOAA?

    Are they gonna shoot at threatening cumulonimbus clouds?




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    Quote Originally Posted by PlumberKhan View Post
    NOAA?

    Are they gonna shoot at threatening cumulonimbus clouds?



    lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlumberKhan View Post
    NOAA?

    Are they gonna shoot at threatening cumulonimbus clouds?



    ============================================

    Info,

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    NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE POLICY DIRECTIVE 30-51
    MAY 24, 2010
    Maintenance, Logistics and Facilities
    PHYSICAL SECURITY

    1. Physical Security is an integral part of field office operation. Effective October 1, 2009,
    the Department of Commerce (DOC) adopted the following Interagency Security Committee
    (ISC) standards: “Facility Security Level Determinations for Federal Facilities, Physical
    Security Criteria for Federal Facilities”, Use of Physical Security Performance Measures,
    Facility Level Determination for US Government Facilities as the DOC minimum security
    standards for all DOC controlled facilities. This policy directive supports the DOC Security
    program in implementing ISC standards that apply to National Weather Service (NWS) field
    offices.
    2. The objective of the NWS Physical Security Program is to achieve a reasonable degree of
    security relative to personnel and field office resources and operations. It is important for the
    NWS to be cognizant of threats and vulnerabilities at field offices.

    http://www.nws.noaa.gov/directives/sym/pd03051curr.pd

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    National Weather Service “ammunition” solicitation triggers confusion - Capital Weather Gang - The Washington Post

    NOAA says there was a “clerical error” in the FedBizOpps announcement stating the NWS required ammunition. The solicitation actually originated from the “NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement” not the National Weather Service.

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    Education Department buying 27 shotguns
    By Valerie Strauss
    Why is the Education Department purchasing 27 Remington Brand Model 870 police 12-gauge shotguns (all new, no re-manufactured products, thank you)?

    The guns are to replace old firearms used by Education’s Office of Inspector General, which is the law enforcement arm of the department.

    Here’s a statement from the office in response to a question about why need 27 shotguns with a 14-inch barrels:

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ans...27-shotgu.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnails View Post
    ============================================

    Info,

    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE POLICY DIRECTIVE 30-51
    MAY 24, 2010
    Maintenance, Logistics and Facilities
    PHYSICAL SECURITY

    1. Physical Security is an integral part of field office operation. Effective October 1, 2009,
    the Department of Commerce (DOC) adopted the following Interagency Security Committee
    (ISC) standards: “Facility Security Level Determinations for Federal Facilities, Physical
    Security Criteria for Federal Facilities”, Use of Physical Security Performance Measures,
    Facility Level Determination for US Government Facilities as the DOC minimum security
    standards for all DOC controlled facilities. This policy directive supports the DOC Security
    program in implementing ISC standards that apply to National Weather Service (NWS) field
    offices.
    2. The objective of the NWS Physical Security Program is to achieve a reasonable degree of
    security relative to personnel and field office resources and operations. It is important for the
    NWS to be cognizant of threats and vulnerabilities at field offices.

    http://www.nws.noaa.gov/directives/sym/pd03051curr.pd

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------
    National Weather Service “ammunition” solicitation triggers confusion - Capital Weather Gang - The Washington Post

    NOAA says there was a “clerical error” in the FedBizOpps announcement stating the NWS required ammunition. The solicitation actually originated from the “NOAA Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement” not the National Weather Service.
    Sounds like a bunch of small d*cked p*ssies using guns to make up for their comically small penises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlumberKhan View Post
    Sounds like a bunch of small d*cked p*ssies using guns to make up for their comically small penises.
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    You talk a lot about penises, LOL, You and me, we need to go shooting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnails View Post
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    You talk a lot about penises, LOL, You and me, we need to go shooting.



    Spent the weekend with the brother in law emptying the 75 round drum he got for his AK as a retirement gift.


    Sent from my Double-Wide using Semaphore...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlumberKhan View Post


    Spent the weekend with the brother in law emptying the 75 round drum he got for his AK as a retirement gift.


    Sent from my Double-Wide using Semaphore...
    You brother-in-law must have a microscopic penis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonhomme Richard View Post
    You brother-in-law must have a microscopic penis.
    This guy gets it








    *had to throw that one out there, Mike

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