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    Mark Sanchez Isn't Exactly Surrounded by Star Power

    Anxious Jets fans decry the team's lack of playmaking. Some point at quarterback Mark Sanchez (pictured); others blame the porous offensive line. But the answer may be more simple: Playmaking requires playmakers, and the Jets don't seem to have any.

    The Jets are the only NFL team without a single running back, wide receiver or tight end who has either scored nine or more touchdowns in a season or was a top 20 NFL draft pick, according to Stats LLC. And despite posting just 18 offensive plays of 30 or more yards, the team still opted for defensive lineman Quinton Coples with the 16th overall pick in the 2012 draft.

    General manager Mike Tannenbaum has failed to strike playmaking gold out of lower draft slots. Tight end Dustin Keller (30th overall pick in 2008) has never found the end zone more than five times in four Jets seasons, and his career touchdown total is less than the 17 registered just last season by New England Patriots 2010 second-round pick Rob Gronkowski. Tailback Shonn Greene (65th overall pick in 2009) relies on power, but he finished 30th in the league last season with just 2.23 yards after contact per rushing attempt.

    The Jets invested heavily in receiver Santonio Holmes when re-signing him as a free agent in 2011. Holmes rewarded them with a career-best eight touchdowns—a total still bettered 60 times by receivers since he entered the league in 2006. Furthermore, Holmes's 12.8 yards per reception ranked 43rd last season among receivers with 40-plus catches.

    The Jets did trade up in April for wide receiver Stephen Hill, a size (6-foot-4) and speed (4.3 40) freak who fell to the second round. But Hill seems unlikely to have the immediate playmaking impact that the Jets desperately need, considering he caught just 49 passes in his collegiate career.

    Source: WSJ, New York Section

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    It really is kinda amazing how much of a difference one player can make....

    I recall reading the Patsfans mssg board about how they were afraid of being able to cover both Braylon Edwards and Santonio Holmes... which also freed up Dustin Keller to make some plays.

    I bet Sanchez misses Edwards so bad.

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    One thread on this point wasn't enough for one day?


    http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=246647

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Nut View Post
    One thread on this point wasn't enough for one day?


    http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=246647
    Pats fan troll has to post trash like this every single day....I don't get it. The dude has no life

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    Either is Brady his star is his OL.

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    I somewhat agree with the title but you have to realize, the Jets traded up to take Sanchez. When you do that, you expect someone who makes those around him better and is able to carry an offense to some degree. Sure, Jets' offensive talent is not good but they drafted Sanchez to get into the right protections at the line, find the openings in a zone, and make perfect throws into coverages. You don't trade up to take a QB in the top 10 for someone who needs everything around him working to be effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonEJet View Post
    Pats fan troll has to post trash like this every single day....I don't get it. The dude has no life
    It's a life.

    A life of scan the internet for negative view, run to the Jets board to post.

    Why bother checking to see if its already there, its a feeding frenzy for him and too many others.

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    We need a dynamic wr(could be hill), a dynamic rb(not on the roster) and a dynamic tight end(not on the roster).

    Oh, and we need a franchise qb as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OlTimeGiantFanFromLongAgo View Post
    I somewhat agree with the title but you have to realize, the Jets traded up to take Sanchez. When you do that, you expect someone who makes those around him better and is able to carry an offense to some degree. Sure, Jets' offensive talent is not good but they drafted Sanchez to get into the right protections at the line, find the openings in a zone, and make perfect throws into coverages. You don't trade up to take a QB in the top 10 for someone who needs everything around him working to be effective.
    Not this early in his career, no QB in his first 3 years is expected to do this. Eventually yes, now, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OlTimeGiantFanFromLongAgo View Post
    I somewhat agree with the title but you have to realize, the Jets traded up to take Sanchez. When you do that, you expect someone who makes those around him better and is able to carry an offense to some degree. Sure, Jets' offensive talent is not good but they drafted Sanchez to get into the right protections at the line, find the openings in a zone, and make perfect throws into coverages. You don't trade up to take a QB in the top 10 for someone who needs everything around him working to be effective.
    look at the detroit lions. they used top picks on stafford and johnson. cincy took a qb early 2nd round but took a wr in the first. giants took nicks in the first and this year, wilson in the first. teams with good offenses tend to draft offense early, except for a few teams like the pats and saints who have such elite qbs that they can get away with modest talent at some skill positions at times. but for the rest of the teams they need to invest in offense. it just doesn't improve by itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by augustiniak View Post
    look at the detroit lions. they used top picks on stafford and johnson. cincy took a qb early 2nd round but took a wr in the first. giants took nicks in the first and this year, wilson in the first. teams with good offenses tend to draft offense early, except for a few teams like the pats and saints who have such elite qbs that they can get away with modest talent at some skill positions at times. but for the rest of the teams they need to invest in offense. it just doesn't improve by itself.
    Come on, the Giants took Nix in what Eli's 6th year?

    Has nothing in common with the Lions or the Jets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Nut View Post
    Not this early in his career, no QB in his first 3 years is expected to do this. Eventually yes, now, no.
    But in the last few years plenty of young QB's have been above average right from the start :

    Ryan
    Flacco
    Stafford
    Newton
    Dalton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Nut View Post
    Come on, the Giants took Nix in what Eli's 6th year?

    Has nothing in common with the Lions or the Jets.
    True, but they had Plax before that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Nut View Post
    Come on, the Giants took Nix in what Eli's 6th year?

    Has nothing in common with the Lions or the Jets.
    it does. the point is that even teams with very good qbs still draft offensive talent early in the draft. the qb is not expected to carry the entire burden of making the offense great. the nicks pick actually proves my point better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lageman4ever View Post
    But in the last few years plenty of young QB's have been above average right from the start :

    Ryan
    Flacco
    Stafford
    Newton
    Dalton
    All except for Flacco were given a stud WR since day one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Nut View Post
    Come on, the Giants took Nix in what Eli's 6th year?

    Has nothing in common with the Lions or the Jets.
    Because they lost Plax. Before Nix they had Toomer, and Plaxico in his prime who bailed out Eli so much early in his career. Once they lost their top Weapon, the Giants realized they needed to give their QB support.

    They also drafted Manningham, Steve Smith, Sinorice Moss, all WRs they drafted in the 2nd round. Again to make sure their QB had weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Funaz View Post
    Because they lost Plax. Before Nix they had Toomer, and Plaxico in his prime who bailed out Eli so much early in his career. Once they lost their top Weapon, the Giants realized they needed to give their QB support.

    They also drafted Manningham, Steve Smith, Sinorice Moss, all WRs they drafted in the 2nd round. Again to make sure their QB had weapons.
    don't forget shockey. and they had tiki too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sec.101row23 View Post
    All except for Flacco were given a stud WR since day one.
    And flacco got his in his 2nd year. Mark had one his first year with Braylon, they added a nice #2 with holmes, but let the best weapon we had leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Nut View Post
    Not this early in his career, no QB in his first 3 years is expected to do this. Eventually yes, now, no.
    Cam Newton was. In his first three years, he probably shouldn't be expected to carry his team but he should at least show you some signs of being able to do this such as a big passing game here when the run wasn't working or some big throws against a top defense. Sanchez hasn't shown any of this, he's been a game manager at best. I guess you can talk about the Cleveland game in '10 if you really want to strain for an example but that's not much to hang your hat on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by augustiniak View Post
    don't forget shockey. and they had tiki too.
    Good Point. They had a lot of offensive talent, and as they lost them they kept drafting to replace the talent that left. Jets on the other hand make bad personell decisions (Holmes) and draft a year too late instead of a year too early.

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