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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowSubmarine View Post
    You repubs here incessantly bash Obama, which is your right. You watch Fox news, repeat everyone of their talking points, and discount any news outlet that dissents from what you've been programmed to believe. Again, your right to believe whatever you want. I have yet to hear from your posts what it is about Romney, not the republican party, why you'd vote for him. I've watched Romney in the debates, interviews, ads, read up on him and he is simply a compulsive liar, as is Ryan (I watched his RNC acceptance speech and what's notable is the brazen lies he tells, and he knows he's lying and he knows we know he's lying). Anyway, still interested in what it is about Romney that you feel he would be a good president. I read the article below today and still don't get how anyone can trust him.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...829?print=true

    I'm not a Repub, I voted for Obama in '08. I was hoping to choose the lesser of two bad choices and swung and missed. Only time I've ever voted R was in '10 midterms. Will not be pulling the D lever this year, for sure.

    I don't think Mittens is a great candidate, but he's better than the indumbant.

    My wife and I bust our asses in a very competitive environment, why can't all the moochers do the same. Spare me the Bain horror stories. What the hell has Obama EVER accomplished. Oh yeah, he "organized communities", whatever the hell that means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowSubmarine View Post
    You repubs here incessantly bash Obama, which is your right. You watch Fox news, repeat everyone of their talking points, and discount any news outlet that dissents from what you've been programmed to believe. Again, your right to believe whatever you want. I have yet to hear from your posts what it is about Romney, not the republican party, why you'd vote for him. I've watched Romney in the debates, interviews, ads, read up on him and he is simply a compulsive liar, as is Ryan (I watched his RNC acceptance speech and what's notable is the brazen lies he tells, and he knows he's lying and he knows we know he's lying). Anyway, still interested in what it is about Romney that you feel he would be a good president. I read the article below today and still don't get how anyone can trust him.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...829?print=true
    Tell us all how swapping in "Rolling Stone Magazine" for "Fox News" in this sentence makes any difference to its meaning.

    Thanks.

    While you're at it, swap in "Obama" for "Romney", "Biden" for "Ryan" and "Democrat" for "Republican" throughout this entire babbling nonsense. Not a thing changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brady's a catcher View Post
    I'm not a Repub, I voted for Obama in '08. I was hoping to choose the lesser of two bad choices and swung and missed. Only time I've ever voted R was in '10 midterms. Will not be pulling the D lever this year, for sure.

    I don't think Mittens is a great candidate, but he's better than the indumbant.

    My wife and I bust our asses in a very competitive environment, why can't all the moochers do the same. Spare me the Bain horror stories. What the hell has Obama EVER accomplished. Oh yeah, he "organized communities", whatever the hell that means.
    I think it was Pawlenty last night who said it best, many fail in their first job. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetswin View Post
    I think it was Pawlenty last night who said it best, many fail in their first job. lol
    Great book.


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    going to see the movie... http://2016themovie.com/

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    Getting back to the subject of this thread, day 2 of the GOP convention was epic. I had mentioned earlier in this thread about day one. I wasn't thrilled with the way they held Christie back. Night two was different. Condi Rice was spectacular. Her story is nothing short of inspirational. The way she went after the current admin for their lack of leadership in world affairs was brilliant. Martinez also had a great story to tell. Finally Ryan's speech literally destroyed Obama. What was impressive was how he delivered it in a way that showed dissapointment rather then anger. Mitt Romney made a brilliant choice for VP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefst2000 View Post
    Getting back to the subject of this thread, day 2 of the GOP convention was epic. I had mentioned earlier in this thread about day one. I wasn't thrilled with the way they held Christie back. Night two was different. Condi Rice was spectacular. Her story is nothing short of inspirational. The way she went after the current admin for their lack of leadership in world affairs was brilliant. Martinez also had a great story to tell. Finally Ryan's speech literally destroyed Obama. What was impressive was how he delivered it in a way that showed dissapointment rather then anger. Mitt Romney made a brilliant choice for VP.
    Rice's speech was outstanding, I liked her comments on education especially...

    And your greatest ally in controlling your response to your
    circumstances has been a quality education. But today, today,
    when I can look at your zip code and I can tell whether you're
    going to get a good education, can I honestly say it does not
    matter where you came from, it matters where you are going? The
    crisis in K-12 education is a threat to the very fabric of who
    we are.
    (APPLAUSE)
    My mom was a teacher. I respect the profession. We need
    great teachers, not poor ones and not mediocre ones. We have to
    have high standards for our kids, because self-esteem comes from
    achievement, not from lax standards and false praise.
    (APPLAUSE)
    And we need to give parents greater choice, particularly,
    particularly poor parents whose kids, very often minorities, are
    trapped in failing neighborhood schools. This is the civil
    rights issue of our day.
    (APPLAUSE)
    If we do anything less, we can damage generations to
    joblessness and hopelessness and life on the government dole
    (ph). If we do anything less, we will endanger our global
    imperatives for competitiveness. And if we do anything less, we
    will tear apart the fabric of who we are and cement the turn
    toward entitlement and grievance.
    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz252XjiVOj

    She nails it here imho...unfortunately this morning you can read about NYC easing discpiline code on infractions like cutting class

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/08/...t-suspensions/

    ...I guess NYC school chiefs missed the above part about minorities being trapped in failing schools, how is it possible to make it easier for kids to cut classes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetswin View Post
    Rice's speech was outstanding, I liked her comments on education especially...


    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz252XjiVOj

    She nails it here imho...unfortunately this morning you can read about NYC easing discpiline code on infractions like cutting class

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/08/...t-suspensions/

    ...I guess NYC school chiefs missed the above part about minorities being trapped in failing schools, how is it possible to make it easier for kids to cut classes?
    I think that Democrats fight against school choice because they want to keep inner city minorities down. They are afraid that success in the minority community will diminish the D power base of folks dependent on government for their subsistence. Alan West had some poignant comments on this topic.

    IMO the single greatest thing government could do for inner city poor and minorities is not more food stamps and free cell phones. School choice and the chance at a solid education is the ultimate equalizer. That scares the crap out of the power hungry Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefst2000 View Post
    I think that Democrats fight against school choice because they want to keep inner city minorities down.
    I don't buy into that.

    I think they do it, because of Political Pragmatism and Ideology.

    I think they truly belive, most of them, that a Workers Union and Government control is the greatest thing ever, and the best way to run any industry, regardless of industry. That collectivism (forced) will always be better than individualism, or individual options.

    And they're obviously aware that a Workers Union will (generally) support the party that is more Socialistic/central planned/unionistic in it's ideaology.

    I don't think they even think about the victims of Democrat dominated big city school systems, other than the ongoing "it's not fair, these poor kids are victims too, give US more money and better job benefits. That'll fix it all!!" chorus of every Union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    I noticed this last night and it was not a coincidence. I guess they didn't want to show Artur Davis since HE GETS IT now. Black Republicans are the Dems worst nightmare. Especially black female Republicans such as Mia Love who also gave a great speech. They show that it is OK to be a minority and be a Republican.
    More racism from NBC News... Showing white only speeches.

    I'm sure Tingles Matthews is outraged...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MnJetFan View Post
    Back to Chicago Obama there is a job somewhere for you.
    Job?

    Wouldn't that cut into his golf time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    I don't buy into that.

    I think they do it, because of Political Pragmatism and Ideology.

    I think they truly belive, most of them, that a Workers Union and Government control is the greatest thing ever, and the best way to run any industry, regardless of industry. That collectivism (forced) will always be better than individualism, or individual options.

    And they're obviously aware that a Workers Union will (generally) support the party that is more Socialistic/central planned/unionistic in it's ideaology.

    I don't think they even think about the victims of Democrat dominated big city school systems, other than the ongoing "it's not fair, these poor kids are victims too, give US more money and better job benefits. That'll fix it all!!" chorus of every Union.
    So you are saying here that Democrats are stupid, blinded by their ideology and lack common sense?

    I agree that most are but there are some bright ones too. They know that their power base is with the downtrodden. The strategy of keeping them dependent on the government teet is something that is a conscious one. It has been thought through and implemented. They know school choice is the only hope for real advancement in the inner cities. They actively rally against it particularly when statistical date show how much success those programs have had. DC and Louisiana are prime examples. As a bonus for leftists their anti-school choice ideology is a great way to pander to the largest public sector unions in the country. For Democrats this is a win win situation. They keep their inner city voter base dependent and pander to their union overlords all in one policy decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefst2000 View Post
    I think that Democrats fight against school choice because they want to keep inner city minorities down. They are afraid that success in the minority community will diminish the D power base of folks dependent on government for their subsistence. Alan West had some poignant comments on this topic.

    IMO the single greatest thing government could do for inner city poor and minorities is not more food stamps and free cell phones. School choice and the chance at a solid education is the ultimate equalizer. That scares the crap out of the power hungry Democrats.
    No Dems are not against school choice at all. They just dont see it as a serious solution to a very serious problem.

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    Have to protect the Teachers Union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefst2000 View Post
    So you are saying here that Democrats are stupid, blinded by their ideology and lack common sense?
    I try very hard not to call my Political opponents stupid, you or them tbqh.

    We simply disagree on the best way to do things. That does not inherantly make any of those involved stupid.

    They know that their power base is with the downtrodden.
    Their powerbase, best as I see it, is a combination of the lower classes, minorities, the upper-class educated elite, the media/hollywood, Workers Unionists, Socialists, Communists and Collectivists of all varieties, and public servants of all stripes (other than the Millitary).

    They know school choice is the only hope for real advancement in the inner cities.
    Thats your opinion. It's not a fact. Education is not a black/white, this solution or that only, scenario.

    As a bonus for leftists their anti-school choice ideology is a great way to pander to the largest public sector unions in the country.
    Right.

    And the fact that "School Choice" is a way for (R) to weaken a (D) support stronghold, whilst also promoting the "choice" of Religious-based schools currently denied public funds they desire, is just a coincidence, right?

    Both sides are strictly adhering to ideology on this issue. Yours included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefst2000 View Post
    I think that Democrats fight against school choice because they want to keep inner city minorities down. They are afraid that success in the minority community will diminish the D power base of folks dependent on government for their subsistence. Alan West had some poignant comments on this topic.

    IMO the single greatest thing government could do for inner city poor and minorities is not more food stamps and free cell phones. School choice and the chance at a solid education is the ultimate equalizer. That scares the crap out of the power hungry Democrats.
    How about we stop funding public schools through property taxes and funnel the money rich communities give to their schools to inner city schools through federal income tax.

    School choice is just another way to destroy the public school system and transfer funds to private schools.

    The teachers Union being SOJ is no reason to transfer funds to private schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    And the fact that "School Choice" is a way for (R) to weaken a (D) support stronghold, whilst also promoting the "choice" of Religious-based schools currently denied public funds they desire, is just a coincidence, right?

    Both sides are strictly adhering to ideology on this issue. Yours included.
    Pretty much agree. It's one thing to go after the teachers union and pensions, it's another thing entirely to transfer public funds to private schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winstonbiggs View Post
    How about we stop funding public schools through property taxes and funnel the money rich communities give to their schools to inner city schools through federal income tax.
    lol are you serious?

    My property taxes to pay for someone else's schooling? hahahaha...why not, my income tax is putting someone else's kid through college


    wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winstonbiggs View Post
    How about we stop funding public schools through property taxes and funnel the money rich communities give to their schools to inner city schools through federal income tax.

    School choice is just another way to destroy the public school system and transfer funds to private schools.

    The teachers Union being SOJ is no reason to transfer funds to private schools.
    I'd be vehemently against centralizing more power in the hands of the federal government. Particularly when it comes to hyper local issues like school funding. Who cares where funds go by the way. Your argument is irrational. The point is to give parents and kids a choice. When free market solutions are applied in this case everyone wins. The inner city public schools will have to work to improve themselves to compete with charters and private schools. If a charter school is doing a bad job parents can choose another one or the public school. Your argument that school choice would destroy public schools holds no water because the schools we are talking about have already failed. They couldn't get any worse. You appear willing to let generations of children suffer based on a pipe dream that somehow pouring more money in to inner city schools will make a difference. It wont. I can point to countless examples of failing inner city schools which recieve more dollars per student then successful top ranked suburban public schools.

    We are talking about inner city schools here by the way. No one is advocating giving rich kids in the suburbs a voucher. They already have the ability to choose schools with their pocketbook. We are talking about inner city kids that have the desire to learn and better themselves and are trapped like prisoners in failing schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowSubmarine View Post
    We need to get rid of the Republicans, we just don't need them in this country anymore, and they are so outdated, racist, bigoted, it's just pathetic
    Get rid of a political party? So we can have a dictatorship?
    You are a sick puppy. Want things like Nazi Germany? Or Stalin's Soviet Union? Or Mao's China? Or perhaps modern Uganda? Or one of the other African dictatorships.
    Dictatorship government for the STUPID. Does that fit YOUR personal profile?
    Please go back and get your GED. Or at least a 9th grade certificate.

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