Ryan's speech was filled with spin and carefully crafted innuendo, no different than we'll see in the upcoming DNC - yeah, he meant to tag Obama with the plant closing with anyone who didn't bother to check further, or rehash it as nauseum like we do, of course he did, but he didn't cross the line. He maintained 'plausible deniability', the good pols credo. It's when these guys accidentally break script and don't say what's been crafted/vetted that they get themselves into trouble.
And Clint Eastwood was just an utter embarrassment. I couldn't even sit through the whole speech. He's a nice metaphor for the current state of the Republican party. Old, outdated, washed up, bumbling, dying.
Last edited by MCBNY; 09-01-2012 at 01:52 PM.
Ryan voted against the Simpson-Bowles commission, a commission he was a part of, and then criticized the President for "shelving it".
And then the final kicker, blaming the credit downgrade on the President, when at the very least, the GOP Congress contributed to downgrade by ransoming the debt ceiling - and "contributed" is generous.
Mitt's a decent guy running for President in what may be the least important election in over a century. Spare us the hate it's not needed unless you have real skin in the game. As you pointed out Mitt is a moderate and no threat to the social safety net. There is no way he could screw up the tax code any worse then it is today and our foreign policy is a complete mess right now with little direction and a war going very badly. We have a leadership vacuum and regardless of which of these 2 guys gets in, its likely to continue.
Last edited by Winstonbiggs; 09-01-2012 at 04:00 PM.
The ****ing country in the crapper. Our dominant position in the world is currently at risk. The most obvious and forseeable financial debt crisis is approaching. Lets elect the cool guy?
http://www.businessweek.com/articles...-from-medicareHey Paul Ryan, Obamacare Doesn't Steal From Medicare
To hear Paul Ryan’s speech at the Republican convention Wednesday night, you’d think President Obama was robbing from the elderly. “The greatest threat to Medicare is Obamacare, and we’re going to stop it,” Ryan told the crowd.
He went on: “Even with all the hidden taxes to pay for the health-care takeover, even with new taxes on nearly a million small businesses, the planners in Washington still didn’t have enough money. They needed more. They needed hundreds of billions more. So they just took it all away from Medicare. Seven hundred and sixteen billion dollars, funneled out of Medicare by President Obama.”
The Romney campaign has been making this argument a lot lately. The $716 billion line gets people pretty riled up. When Ryan delivered it Wednesday, the convention floor roared. The problem is, the claim is flat-out wrong. “The Affordable Care Act doesn’t steal anything from Medicare,” Henry Aaron, a health-care expert at the Brookings Institution, tells me. “It actually improves Medicare’s finances. No matter how you slice it, the Affordable Care Act strengthens medical hospital insurance.”
Here’s how: Money in the Medicare trust fund comes mostly from payroll taxes, premiums, and general revenue. The trust fund then pays that money out to health-care providers. Part of the trust fund was expected to go bankrupt by 2016. Obamacare actually saves it money in a variety of ways. From 2010 to 2019, Obamacare trims payments to providers by $196 billion. They agreed to take a cut because they will get so many new patients, thanks to the individual mandate. Another $210 billion will be generated by raising Medicare taxes on the wealthy (that’s households earning more than $250,000). Another $145 billion comes from phasing out overpayments to Medicare Advantage. About 25 percent of seniors use the program—in which private plans compete for Medicare dollars—instead of traditional fee-for-service Medicare. Under Obamacare, the government has to keep Medicare Advantage costs in line with those of traditional Medicare. More savings come from streamlining administrative costs.
Paul Ryan is conflating cutting Medicare spending, which Obamacare does reduce, with cutting Medicare benefits—which Obamacare preserves. The spending cuts are in place to keep the system from going bankrupt. When the Congressional Budget Office scored the health-care law, it found that the law keeps Medicare’s trust fund solvent for eight more years, until 2024.
Mitt Romney’s Medicare plan would also cap spending, for the same reason—to keep the program going. Romney would just do in a different way—by giving seniors the choice of traditional fee-for-service Medicare or a fixed benefit for purchasing private insurance. When Ryan proposed a very similar plan last year, the CBO said it would add a few thousand dollars to seniors’ out-of-pocket costs.
Ryan said Wednesday night that “Medicare is a promise, and we will honor it.” What he didn’t say is that he proposed a policy that would … take money from seniors.
Little Johnny is the Doctor and little Suzi is the patient, Little suzi's uncle Sam pays the doctor for a visit, the visit cost 1.00 of which 97 cent is costs and overhead for doctor Litte Johnny. Now Dear leader and supreme being of the world,Chairman Maobama tells little Suzi's uncle Sam he WILL now only pay Doctor little Johnny 92 cents for little Suzi's doctor's visit. Now what will Doctor Little Johnny do????
Mitt Milktoast Romney is as centrist RINO as you can get.
And no, thats not a compliment.
Trying to label him an "extreme Right Winger" is like trying to Label Mark Sanchez "An Extreme Hall of Famer".
Anyone who pays attention (as in't in the pocket of (R) or (D)) will laugh at such sillyness.
Indeed, and The Occupy Movement is a perfect exemplar of the current state of the (D) party, ignorant, collectivist, and blaming everyone but themselves for everything.And Clint Eastwood was just an utter embarrassment. I couldn't even sit through the whole speech. He's a nice metaphor for the current state of the Republican party. Old, outdated, washed up, bumbling, dying.
LOL! How sad to see Clint turn himself into such a joke. He was always came across as someone with a basic sense of common sense and avoided adopting the hysteria or open hate and bigotry of the fringes. He must have sipped the Kool Aid. Sad!