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    Cimini: Roster analysis: Curious and surprising

    1. Releasing Marcus Dixon. Unless I'm missing something, this makes no sense. The Jets finally had developed some quality depth on the defensive line -- a must in the NFL, as the Giants have proven -- but they cut their fourth- or fifth-best lineman. Dixon isn't a budding star, but he's a versatile backup, capable of playing inside or outside. Clearly, they think Kenrick Ellis is ready to become a major contributor, but Dixon still had value. It's hard to imagine his modest salary ($540,000) was a factor, but I'm telling you, the Jets are pinching pennies even though they have cap room.

    2. Another pick bites the dust. S Antonio Allen (seventh-round pick) was waived Saturday, bringing the total of waived draft picks to four -- half the draft. He joined RB Terrance Ganaway, OT Robert Griffin and WR Jordan White. Either the Jets did a poor job of drafting, or GM Mike Tannenbaum has developed a different philosophy with regard to roster management. You don't want to go crazy over a bunch of sixth- and seventh-round picks, but in the past, Tannenbaum treated draft picks like gold bars. In his previous six drafts (a total of 33 selections), he cut only three picks before opening day -- WR Scotty McKnight (2011), OT Nate Garner (2008) and DT Titus Adams (2006). He esclipsed that total in 24 hours this year.

    3. Swinging Gates. The headline acquisition of the day -- if you could call it that -- is former Dolphins WR/KR Clyde Gates, whom they acquired on waivers. He will be reunited with Tony Sparano. Gates was a fourth-round pick with sub-4.4 speed. With him and rookie Stephen Hill, the Jets have a pair of burners on the outside. But ask yourself this: Why did the receiver-needy Dolphins cut him? He could contribute as a kickoff returner, but one personnel executive questioned whether Gates will be a good fit for special teams coach Mike Westhoff. The knock on Gates, a former basketball player, is that he doesn't have a football mentality.

    4. Another BFF from the OC. The new McKnight is TE Konrad Reuland, who played high-school ball with Mark Sanchez in Orange County's Mission Viejo, Calf. The Jets got him on waivers from the 49ers. They needed a No. 3 tight end to replace the injured Josh Baker; to make room for Reuland, they released Dedrick Epps, according to The Star-Ledger. If they re-sign McKnight, they can have a Mission Viejo reunion.

    5. Tony's take. Obviously Sparano had an impact, even on the defensive side of the ball. They acquired NT Isaako Aaitui on waivers from Miami, where he spent time last season on the practice squad under Sparano. Aaitui had a solid preseason -- four tackles, one sack and three QB hits. He could end up dressing for games as the sixth lineman.

    6. Practice squad. The Jets re-signed TE Hayden Smith, the former rugby player, and added him to the practice squad. Smith loved the move, even though he'll be making about $17,000 less per week than a roster player. "Great way for me to keep working toward making this dream a reality," he tweeted. The Jets also re-signed CB Donnie Fletcher to the practice squad, and they hope to do the same with Allen if he clears waivers.

    7. The Saturday recap. Summarizing the "mini-draft," the Jets added Gates, Aaitui and Reuland and released Dixon, Epps and Allen. They have 25 players on offense, 25 on defense, plus three specialists -- and there could be more moves to come.

    The Jets confirmed the three acquisitions and three releases. They also announced their practice squad: OT Paul Cornick, LB Marcus Dowtin, DB Donnie Fletcher, WR Royce Pollard, LB Ricky Sapp, TE Hayden Smith and WR Jordan White.

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    Hey Rich, doesn't #5 explain #1???
    Last edited by C Mart; 09-01-2012 at 06:28 PM.

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    points 1 and 2 are valid and reak of poor front office.

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    I know we have to let the season play out, but I really feel that the Jet FO does not have a clue what they are doing. I do hope they prove me wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southparkcpa View Post
    points 1 and 2 are valid and reak of poor front office.
    I didn't see any MIA preseason games but Aaitui seemed to have produced..Dixon, who I like, was quiet..

    I also think as I stated earlier, Aaitu is protection with DeVito and Pouha banged up..

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    I didn't see any MIA preseason games but Aaitui seemed to have produced..Dixon, who I like, was quiet..

    I also think as I stated earlier, Aaitu is protection with DeVito and Pouha banged up..
    thoughts on 4 wasted picks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    I didn't see any MIA preseason games but Aaitui seemed to have produced..Dixon, who I like, was quiet..

    I also think as I stated earlier, Aaitu is protection with DeVito and Pouha banged up..
    How are we supposed to moan about our pathetic FO when you keep throwing unwanted logic into the thread?

    I mean, c'mon, it's MARCUS FRICKIN' DIXON -- how can you possibly even attempt to excuse such a monumental blunder?

    And sure he's kept most of his draft picks over the years, but that's irrelevant -- three were cut this year and NO organization succeeds without quality draft picks (cough, cough, NE, cough, cough)

    We're just gonna have to hope we luck into a good season, because Lord knows if we have one Rex and Tanny will deserve NO credit for it . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by southparkcpa View Post
    points 1 and 2 are valid and reak of poor front office.
    No, no it doesn't, not at all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    I didn't see any MIA preseason games but Aaitui seemed to have produced..Dixon, who I like, was quiet..

    I also think as I stated earlier, Aaitu is protection with DeVito and Pouha banged up..
    Dixon has 2+ years in the system and was versatile. IMO not worth $150K in savings to go with a new guy who was also waived BTW.

    A strange off season got even stranger today. Some minor moves that I wish had gone another way. Again, I am not claiming that any of these will destroy the franchise (well maybe Tebow .

    - Marquice Cole - Groomed for 3 season only to let the Pats pick him him up. Our DB depth has looked poor this pre season. Also a valuable STs player.

    - Guaranteeing Hunter's salary. Even Smith isn't worth it.

    - Stanton/Tebow. We will see how this one turns out. I would rather have Stanton plus the 4th round pick and money.

    - Waiving Dixon and Allen. Dixon has been discussed. I admit I am partial to him b.c I am fascinated by his story. Eric Smith is injured and Landry is an injury waiting to happen. Bell has been durable but he is old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southparkcpa View Post
    thoughts on 4 wasted picks?
    4 comp picks in 6 and 7 rounds

    2 on the PS right now, Allen would figure to be added tomorrow if he clears...

    Next..

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    Quote Originally Posted by southparkcpa View Post
    thoughts on 4 wasted picks?
    You mean picks 202, 203, 242 & 244?

    1 is on the PS...AAllen, if he clears waivers, will also be on the PS..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray Ray19 View Post
    4 comp picks in 6 and 7 rounds

    2 on the PS right now, Allen would figure to be added tomorrow if he clears...

    Next..
    Bush on the 53

    White on the PS

    Ganaway & Griffen both completely gone

    Allen on the PS tomorrow ?

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    Last year, Rex an Co got schidt on for hanging on to non productive players to "save face" because they were hand picked. This year....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    Dixon has 2+ years in the system and was versatile. IMO not worth $150K in savings to go with a new guy who was also waived BTW.
    Do we know that is the reason or are we just believing the media speculation???

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    Do we know that is the reason or are we just believing the media speculation???
    I can't believe the $150 K savings argument. It just doesn't make any sense.

    The Jets must believe the new NT will be a better player and better fit given recent injuries & DeVito leaving next season

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    Again, I am not claiming that any of these will destroy the franchise (well maybe Tebow ..
    Tebow will end up being your savior.

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    Rich Cimini ‏@RichCimini
    Been getting a lot of questions about possible #Jets interest in James Ihedigbo. Wouldn't rule it out, but I'd say unlikely.




    I hope Richie is right..

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    Do we know that is the reason or are we just believing the media speculation???
    Has to be part of it. I don't think he hurt his shoulder too bad and if there was something behavioral we would have heard about it.

    What I will say is that I have a lot of faith in Dunbar and his coaching ability.

    But it still doesn't add up for me. I hope we find out some more info soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lageman4ever View Post
    I can't believe the $150 K savings argument. It just doesn't make any sense.

    The Jets must believe the new NT will be a better player and better fit given recent injuries & DeVito leaving next season
    Exactly..

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    Exactly..
    Obviously they must feel that way.

    The question is whether or not they are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    Obviously they must feel that way.

    The question is whether or not they are correct.
    So it's now that's their logic behind the move not the $150K?

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