Wow, this thread has gone from disrespect of the Jets to Montana is better than Brady...talk about deflection
Go back and learn the law (maybe start with Con Law: First Amendment). If you think the NYP cartoon is actionable and you are, in fact, a lawyer, then I pity your clients.
You said that malice has nothing to do with defamation of a public figure.
That is the point you originally challenged.
Are you sticking by that?
Are you an attorney? If so, you might need a refresher course on defamation principles.
If I'm wrong about anything I said, I will admit it. You haven't shown me anything yet. Just attacks at me so far.
Last edited by Jordy; 09-05-2012 at 11:13 AM.
-AFCE crowns are not what NFL teams play for, so congrats on the grand achievement.
-Saints, Packers, Pats, Steelers, Ravens. These are the only teams with better records than the Jets over Rex's tenure (courtesy of eagle's thread).
-Other than the Packers, only the Jets have been to their conference title game more than once during Rex's tenure, indicating consistency.
-The Jets are the only team to feature a top 5 defense including #1 in his first year, in all three years of Rex.
***During Rex's time, neither the Jets nor Pats have had losing seasons, but they are tied for wins in the only category that matters: 0.***
Btw, he did all that with a raw QB, and while playing in the same division as one of the greatest QBs and HCs ever.
Meanwhile, the Giants are not on any of those lists, and when they were sitting pretty at 7-7 last christmas, this same NY media wanted to fire Coughlin. And then came an amazing 6 game stretch which allowed ignorance like this to run rampant, and have Jets fans like you putting down our team without being even a single game into the season.
Edit-Disclaimer: This post was not meant to defend JetNut because his act is just as tiresome as yours. But at the very least, he doesn't go out of his way to be negative when there's room for positivity at the start of a new season.
Last edited by greenwichjetfan; 09-05-2012 at 11:24 AM.
I am saying that if no factual assertions are made in a piece, then you can attack a public figure with as much malice as you like, to your heart's content. Again, thank God for that. Because no factual assertions were made in the NYP cartoon = not actionable. See, inter alia, Hustler Magazine v. Falwell.What I said was, If I were them, I would be on the phone to my attorneys. If they can prove actual malice, yes it could be actionable. ...
You said that malice has nothing to do with defamation of a public figure. Are you sticking by that?
No way you went to law school, bud. (Although it doesn't take a law degree to figure this out.)
Not sure I agree on Jet Nut. He positive about the team but negative in a pretty nasty way towards everyone who does not share his opinions.
As to the Post article. Prove them wrong and they will look stupid. Until then, these are all pretty much self inflicted wounds and so whining does not really help here. Just win baby.
Let's talk about you for a moment. So you're saying again that malice has nothing to do with defamation of a public figure? That's what you said in your first post to me.
And I never intimated that anyone has a slam dunk case. All I said was that I'd be on the phone. I also conceded that proving it would be difficult. So I don't know where your hard-on for me is coming from, but if you want to continue this, please, by all means.
By the way, I don't need to prove anything to you. I know what I have done and what I haven't done in my lifetime. And I did something that I doubt you could have accomplished in 2 1/2 years like I did. You want to talk law. Go to law school and learn a few things first. Then talk to me. Also, you might want to brush up on your reading comprehension while you're at it.
By the way, the law is not stagnant. It is ever-changing. I always loved the study of it. Do you know how laws have changed many times over the years? Case law.
Not everything is black and white.
That's how you exaggerated.
Yours? The Jets, what they've won wasn't the point now was it. I didn't bring the Jets up, thats your obsession. You're need to compare the Pats to the Jets as validation I guess.
I'm not shooting my mouth off like my team is the Giants or one of the other teams that has actually won something in 8 years.
That would your dance.