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Thread: Would be shock move, but they should cut Tebow

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenWave View Post
    I see where you're coming from, but you can't make this move while Tebow is still the "phenomenon" (vomit) that he is right now. Teams are going to think that Tebow will be a difference-maker, and that will force them to gameplan for him each week. If that leads to 8-in-the-box like we saw today and defenses that are consistently looking in the backfield while Sanchez is hitting his guys 20 yards behind them, Tebow can stay.

    Only when teams stop caring about Tebow and the camera is no longer on him should he be sent packing. Besides, as others have said, Sanchez looked okay with the rotation today.
    I like what Sanchez and our WRs showed. Promise and potential. The full focus of the gameplan and during practices should be the conventional passing attack. I think wasting reps practicing wildcat or finding a way to use Tebow is a waste of time.

    Granted, today the flow was not disrupted, but against a bad D, did the wildcat add any value? I did not see any.

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    This MIGHT go down as one of the top 10 all time worst threads.

    I mean, just wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaSteve View Post
    This MIGHT go down as one of the top 10 all time worst threads.

    I mean, just wow.
    Great rebuke, glad you could add to the thread by contributing nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickBri481 View Post
    The full focus of the gameplan and during practices should be the conventional passing attack. I think wasting reps practicing wildcat or finding a way to use Tebow is a waste of time.
    Fully agree, but nothing says the Jets have to waste reps on Tebow. You just want other teams wasting their reps on defending Tebow. As long as that's a factor (and Bills players said they were ready for Tebow today), it definitely presents a gameplanning advantage for the Jets.

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    I'm sure they have Tebow pass packages, they just didn't go to any of them today - and for good reason, Sanchez was really strong, and a Tebow INT would have sunk our momentum.

    If they go run 80%-90% of the snaps Tebow's in the backfield, the 10%-20% of Tebow passes should be surprising and effective. Probably the best way to grind a good QB rating out of the guy.

    The downside is teams committing pass against Sanchez, which negates his play-action a bit, an enormous strength of his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickBri481 View Post
    Great rebuke, glad you could add to the thread by contributing nothing
    like dividing by zero, right?

    oh, yeah...dump.

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    The Wildcat is lame but not because of Tebow.

    Hopefully it's a work in progress that'll get redesigned.

    The problem I see is Tebow taking off too soon.

    The razzle-dazzle is ineffective and a waste of time.

    TT's best runs happen when he's back to pass like a normal pass play and takes off running when the D is spread thin.

    Otherwise, it's no better than a textbook run play.

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    I expected to read nonsense like this tomorrow from so-called experts who are going to criticize everything the Jets do because they predicted us to stink, but I wasn't ready for it yet on this forum. Maybe we didn't gain many yards out of the Wildcat, but we sure didn't disrupt anything. Sanchez came out for a handful of running plays, how horrible. Maybe the Bills spent a lot of time preparing for the Wildcat, and not enough time preparing for spreading the ball around to anybody with a pair of hands. Great game planning... Save the cut Tebow nonsense, just idiotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickBri481 View Post
    Would serve a few purposes:

    1) Ultimate vote of confidence for Sanchez and rewards one of the best throwing games of his career

    2) Would scrap Wildcat, which seemed very limited today and overall is not used by any great offense in the NFL

    3) Would allow more focus on a promising conventional passing game going forward

    4) Would end Tebow circus

    I would do it. Tannenbaum won't, but he should...
    Tebow being there is motivation for Sanchez. I don't care what the X's and O's thing is but if do anything with Tebow is trade him to a team who wants to sell tickets for a RB. I like how our receivers played today but you can never have enough of that either. Still no need to cut Tim ... doesn't make sense. I see the potential in the wildcat we just used it at the worst times. He's a big dude and hard to tackle. Eventually he'll throw the ball to loosen up the D or we'll have Kerley or Hill getting a reverse to get space in the outside. The potential is there only cause teams will overload the middle and it will give us chances to get huge outside runs. We didn't do any of that today or throw at all. We'll see how it goes.

    As for Sanchez ... he needs Tebow. Bringing in Tebow has lit a fire under him. Tebow is such a good dude he's working out with him early in the AM, helping Mark improve in anyway he can, and also keeping the attention off of him. There's just as much Tebow talk as there is anything else and it allows other things to not be maximized. Mark takes every throw seriously, even his warm up throws cause he knows Tebow is as hungry as any player in this league. Is Tebow good? NO ... not a good QB at all but he's a nice back up to have god forbid Mark misses anytime and he has Mark doing little subtle things that he's never done before. The offense looked great today.... Why cut anyone on that side of the ball? Whatever we did worked. No need to cut anyone after today ... even the O Lineman who played 3 snaps.

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    LOL ... only (certain) Jet fans could be looking to who should get cut after a WIN on opening day - a COMPREHENSIVE win at that - agaisnt a divisional opponent.


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    I dont like Tebow as QB (never did) but cut him? Get real. If we wanted to get him off the team there are some who would give something for him (maybe even a 4the round draft choice). He served a purpose yeaterday-kept the D off balance in the first quarter although I was concerned it woud disrupt the rhythm Mark estatblished.

    Remember he did make a nice catch on the onside kick.

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    Yeah, cut the guy that plays multiple positions, including the hands team where he had a text book recovery, the way it is taught. He also makes teams practice to defend the potential wildcat, which takes away from their prep for Sanchez.

    I stayed to the end yesterday and listened to fans complaining about the def... Amazing that some people are never happy.. Those pepole must be miserable SOB on a daily basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickBri481 View Post
    Would serve a few purposes:

    1) Ultimate vote of confidence for Sanchez and rewards one of the best throwing games of his career

    2) Would scrap Wildcat, which seemed very limited today and overall is not used by any great offense in the NFL

    3) Would allow more focus on a promising conventional passing game going forward

    4) Would end Tebow circus

    I would do it. Tannenbaum won't, but he should...

    You are crazy. Sanchez has always played well under pressure in the playoffs. Maybe Tebow being in NY is the pressure needed to get Mark to perform as well as he did vs Bills. Tebow is also an upgrade over Mark Brunnell as a backup QB.

    This should be a time to rejoice in a victory not bash tebow. Why are people so obsessed with seeing Tebow out of the league? It's odd.
    Last edited by Rangenius; 09-10-2012 at 07:51 AM. Reason: fix

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickBri481 View Post
    Would serve a few purposes:

    1) Ultimate vote of confidence for Sanchez and rewards one of the best throwing games of his career

    2) Would scrap Wildcat, which seemed very limited today and overall is not used by any great offense in the NFL

    3) Would allow more focus on a promising conventional passing game going forward

    4) Would end Tebow circus

    I would do it. Tannenbaum won't, but he should...

    We should cut you instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes9 View Post
    Not being inside the locker room, we don't know what effect Tebow has on it (one of the things many pundits talked about when Tebow was signed), we don't know what effect Tebow's presence has on Sanchez (possible motivation, which is another thing that pundits discussed).

    Additionally, we haven't seen much of the WC or what Sparano intends to do with it. The offense looked fine today, but next week might be a different story.

    With all that in mind, did you have some valid reason to even think about cutting Tebow, other than the fact that you apparently don't like the amount of publicity he generates ?
    Just stop it. I can't stand this notion that Tebow somehow has an effect on the fact Mark played well. It's just stupid and tiresome. Tim Tebow is not a very good NFL football player but he has his place on this team. Cutting him now would be silly. But the reasons Mark played well has everything to do with Mark himself and the much improved Offensive line play and NOTHING to do with the "presence" of Tim Tebow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickBri481 View Post
    Would serve a few purposes:

    1) Ultimate vote of confidence for Sanchez and rewards one of the best throwing games of his career

    2) Would scrap Wildcat, which seemed very limited today and overall is not used by any great offense in the NFL

    3) Would allow more focus on a promising conventional passing game going forward

    4) Would end Tebow circus

    I would do it. Tannenbaum won't, but he should...
    This is why fans and media are clowns. My Gosh. There will be days when Sanchez struggles because teams are throwing extra D-backs and having Tebow will help enormously.

    IT'S ONLY BEEN ONE GAME!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    A perfect example of "Fan-Based Madden 2013 GM'ing"

    Right, lets cut our #2 QB, Wildcat Specialist, Fake-Punt Threat and Running Game addition, and no worries about the 4th it cost to get him, lets cut him!

    To soothe an ego that in no way appears to need such kid-gloves treatement.

    Fans ftl.
    agree.

    ridiculous suggestion.

    the offense worked exactly how the coaches said they wanted it to all spring and summer -- and Tebow had none of the negative impact all the naysayers said he would -- and now we want to cut him?

    as the coaches have been saying, whether Tebow can help the offense by either gaining yards himself, or helping the rest of the O gain yards by forcing the D to use preparation time on him. Either way he's an excellent weapoing to have in the arsenal.

    some people just are not able to be comfortable with success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadainianIMnotDONE View Post
    Is Tebow good? NO ... not a good QB at all but he's a nice back up to have god forbid Mark misses anytime and he has Mark doing little subtle things that he's never done before. The offense looked great today.... Why cut anyone on that side of the ball? Whatever we did worked. No need to cut anyone after today ... even the O Lineman who played 3 snaps.
    You bring up a good point....if Mark goes down I rather a QB come in thats already in the flow of the game, taking snaps, getting hit, then some clipboard carrying QB who hasn't seen live action in weeks or months.

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