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    Quote Originally Posted by chirorob View Post
    I made him on Madden last year. He was awesome.

    Then Schotty tried to turn him into a TE when I wasn't looking, and he blew his knee out.
    maybe that's why jim brown doesn't like trent richardson - he gets up too fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSage View Post
    I guess you never saw the best back ever IMHO Jim Brown who at 225 (which was very big for a running back at the time) had sprinter speed and if one did not know about him would have thought he was getting up after a tackle to be put on a strethcher for a ride to the hospital.( Gale Sayers and Walter Payton weren't bad either but don't remember how they got up after a tackle)
    I saw Jim Brown play. He was great but you did not say that he never blocked anyone. He refused to block and his teammates did not like that fact about him! He would rather run away from defenders then take them headon. But if he had to get physical, he did. I have seen him taking his time getting up but I attributed it to all the distances he covered. Greene does not run as far and as fast as Jim Brown nor is he even remotely in the same class.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6cCXNBeVfc
    Last edited by Kentucky Jet; 09-10-2012 at 03:43 PM.

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    Shonn Greene being mentioned with Jim Brown!!!!!

    Good Grief!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentucky Jet View Post
    I saw Jim Brown play. He was great but you did not say that he never blocked anyone. He refused to block and his teammates did not like that fact about him! He would rather run away from defenders then take them headon. But if he had to get physical, he did. I have seen him taking his time getting up but I attributed it to all the distances he covered. Greene does not run as far and as fast as Jim Brown nor is he even remotely in the same class.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6cCXNBeVfc
    Kentucky thank you for posting the video!!!!!

    Jets fans are INSANE SOMETIMES!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmeyer52 View Post
    It looked like the OL was opening up some holes for Greene but that he just doesn't have the breakaway speed to leverage the gaps which close quickly. Do you believe he is going to have a good year ?
    i saw him bouncing around trying to get thru the line like thomas jones, only without the speed

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmeyer52 View Post
    It looked like the OL was opening up some holes for Greene but that he just doesn't have the breakaway speed to leverage the gaps which close quickly. Do you believe he is going to have a good year ?
    do you have any clue what your talking about? or did you just patch random things you heard and read together to create your own "opinion"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buzzsaw View Post
    Why is he always so slow to get up after every other tackle? Unless you're legitimately injured, get the eff back up and go back to the huddle.
    Jim Brown was slow to get up after every single tackle. Took his time getting up, then would go on to being the legendary RB he was. Think it was almost a mind game he played with the D. Like "oh man you see that he's getting up slow, we got him good...wait, ok nope he's still beasting it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegi5894 View Post
    Jim Brown was slow to get up after every single tackle. Took his time getting up, then would go on to being the legendary RB he was. Think it was almost a mind game he played with the D. Like "oh man you see that he's getting up slow, we got him good...wait, ok nope he's still beasting it."
    Yeah but that tactic doesn't work for average players like Greene.

    Please, everyone, never EVER compare Greene to Jim Brown. Even if it's a minor comparison. Just don't do it. Ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMikeIsHot View Post
    Yeah but that tactic doesn't work for average players like Greene.

    Please, everyone, never EVER compare Greene to Jim Brown. Even if it's a minor comparison. Just don't do it. Ever.
    Hahaha sorry just saw all the previous posts about JB. Look I didn't mean to make a "comparison" in terms of playing ability whatsoever, just a little side note.

    And I'm not saying it works for greene like it did JB, I just mean that imo, its not really noteworthy how fast or slow he gets up unless it turns out he got injured.

    Overall, he's an above average back who ain't nothing special but can grind through a season for us and do what we need him to, run down the D and open up the pass for Sanchez (solely by the AMOUNT of touches he gets, not because of his ability).

    Also, so far it's tough to make a decision on Powell, but I'll just say I like having him there as a #2 for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegi5894 View Post
    Hahaha sorry just saw all the previous posts about JB. Look I didn't mean to make a "comparison" in terms of playing ability whatsoever, just a little side note.

    And I'm not saying it works for greene like it did JB, I just mean that imo, its not really noteworthy how fast or slow he gets up unless it turns out he got injured.

    Overall, he's an above average back who ain't nothing special but can grind through a season for us and do what we need him to, run down the D and open up the pass for Sanchez (solely by the AMOUNT of touches he gets, not because of his ability).

    Also, so far it's tough to make a decision on Powell, but I'll just say I like having him there as a #2 for now.
    I like that he keeps pounding away. But I just don't see why Greene gets 27 carries while Powell gets 3 and McKnight gets 1. I would much rather see those 31 runs split up a little more. Powell should always get more than 3 carries, especially in a lopsided game like this one.

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    I'm okay with Green. I was stunned how many blocks JOHN CONNOR missed. It's almost like he doesn't really want to play. Get Connor out of there and have a two RB back field.

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    My big problem with Greene is his willingness or desire to go down on first contact. It seems to me that he runs with his head down and has an eye on a spot, usually about 2 yards in front of him. As soon as anyone touches him, he starts to stumble and goes down. He is obviously a strong man and can run. Just wish he had more "try" in him, to get those extra yards.

    I think if he put in the extra effort to stay up and get an extra yard here or there he would have an extra 200-300 yards at the end of a season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROPE View Post
    I'm okay with Green. I was stunned how many blocks JOHN CONNOR missed. It's almost like he doesn't really want to play. Get Connor out of there and have a two RB back field.
    Not a bad idea at all.

    If it's about having the best 11 on the field, Connor has no business out there.

    Is the FB really a necessary part of the offense? I don't think it is at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentucky Jet View Post
    I saw Jim Brown play.I have seen him taking his time getting up but I attributed it to all the distances he covered.
    Jim Brown said he was always slow to get up because then defenders would not know if they had really effected him with a hit. If you always get up slow, they can't tell if you are hurt, to paraphrase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMikeIsHot View Post
    I like that he keeps pounding away. But I just don't see why Greene gets 27 carries while Powell gets 3 and McKnight gets 1. I would much rather see those 31 runs split up a little more. Powell should always get more than 3 carries, especially in a lopsided game like this one.
    For sure, I am definitely down with a 2/3 for greene, 1/3 for powell (or even 3/4 and 1/4) with McKnight getting a 2-3 touches outside of the wildcat. Lets at least see what we have in Powell, him running the ball certainly doesn't look to be a huge dropoff from Greene, so let's see how each handles a nice load during the game and go from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by millsan1 View Post
    Jim Brown said he was always slow to get up because then defenders would not know if they had really effected him with a hit. If you always get up slow, they can't tell if you are hurt, to paraphrase.
    yeah that was pretty much what I was trying to get at. Not sure if that is Greene's motivation, just know I don't care too much about it honestly. Either he's fine or he's hurt, the time it takes him on average touches to get up is of no consequence to either.

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    here are week one stats for running backs in the a.f.c.

    Running Back
    Rk Player Team Pos Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% 20+ 40+ FUM
    1 C.J. Spiller BUF RB 14 14.0 169 12.1 169.0 1 56T 5 35.7 2 2 0
    2 Stevan Ridley NE RB 21 21.0 125 6.0 125.0 1 17 10 47.6 0 0 0
    3 Shonn Greene NYJ RB 27 27.0 94 3.5 94.0 1 14 4 14.8 0 0 2
    4 Jamaal Charles KC RB 16 16.0 87 5.4 87.0 0 46 4 25.0 1 1 0
    5 Arian Foster HOU RB 26 26.0 79 3.0 79.0 2 14T 2 7.7 0 0 0
    6 Maurice Jones-Drew JAC RB 19 19.0 77 4.1 77.0 0 11 4 21.1 0 0 0
    7 Reggie Bush MIA RB 14 14.0 69 4.9 69.0 0 13 5 35.7 0 0 1
    8 Willis McGahee DEN RB 16 16.0 64 4.0 64.0 0 12 3 18.8 0 0 1
    9 Donald Brown IND RB 9 9.0 48 5.3 48.0 1 18T 3 33.3 0 0 0
    10 Jonathan Dwyer PIT RB 9 9.0 43 4.8 43.0 0 11 0 0.0 0 0 0
    11 Trent Richardson CLE RB 19 19.0 39 2.1 39.0 0 9 1 5.3 0 0 0
    12 Rashad Jennings JAC RB 8 8.0 31 3.9 31.0 0 10 2 25.0 0 0 0
    13 Shaun Draughn KC RB 6 6.0 29 4.8 29.0 1 14 3 50.0 0 0 0
    14 Isaac Redman PIT RB 11 11.0 20 1.8 20.0 0 6 1 9.1 0 0 0
    14 Danny Woodhead NE RB 6 6.0 20 3.3 20.0 0 6 0 0.0 0 0 0
    16 Peyton Hillis KC RB 7 7.0 16 2.3 16.0 0 7 0 0.0 0 0 0
    17 Fred Jackson BUF RB 6 6.0 15 2.5 15.0 0 7 1 16.7 0 0 0
    18 Lance Ball DEN RB 2 2.0 14 7.0 14.0 0 11 1 50.0 0 0 0
    19 Knowshon Moreno DEN RB 5 5.0 13 2.6 13.0 1 7T 3 60.0 0 0 0
    20 Brandon Bolden NE RB 5 5.0 11 2.2 11.0 0 9 1 20.0 0 0 0
    20 Daniel Thomas MIA RB 3 3.0 11 3.7 11.0 0 8 1 33.3 0 0 1
    22 Bilal Powell NYJ RB 3 3.0 10 3.3 10.0 0 6 1 33.3 0 0 0
    23 Vick Ballard IND RB 4 4.0 6 1.5 6.0 0 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
    23 Ben Tate HOU RB 5 5.0 6 1.2 6.0 0 6 1 20.0 0 0 0
    25 Chris Rainey PIT RB 2 2.0 5 2.5 5.0 0 7 0 0.0 0 0 0
    26 Chris Johnson TEN RB 11 11.0 4 0.4 4.0 0 5 0 0.0 0 0 0
    27 Tashard Choice BUF RB 4 4.0 3 0.8 3.0 0 7 0 0.0 0 0 0
    27 Jamie Harper TEN RB 1 1.0 3 3.0 3.0 0 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
    27 Joe McKnight NYJ RB 1 1.0 3 3.0 3.0 0 3 0 0.0 0 0 0
    30 Jalen Parmele JAC RB 1 1.0 0 0.0 0.0 0 0 0 0.0 0 0 0
    31 Baron Batch PIT RB 1 1.0 -1 -1.0 -1.0 0 -1 0 0.0 0 0 0



    now i could be wrong but i would like to think that tennesee's defense should be the same as buffalo's. but yet the patriots running back has a better run average than shonne green. so is new england's offensive line better than the jets or is shonne green just not as good as he was his rookie year??? i'd like to think the latter is true.

    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...true&Submit=Go

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    Quote Originally Posted by millsan1 View Post
    Jim Brown said he was always slow to get up because then defenders would not know if they had really effected him with a hit. If you always get up slow, they can't tell if you are hurt, to paraphrase.
    +1 I saw him say that in a documentary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMikeIsHot View Post
    Not a bad idea at all.

    If it's about having the best 11 on the field, Connor has no business out there.

    Is the FB really a necessary part of the offense? I don't think it is at all.
    It is absolutely shocking that connor has a roster spot. He was awful sunday, and that is his ONLY job. A FB who cant block, should not be on a team.

    Id rather 2 TEs or 3 WRs then ever seen connor in the backfield again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglenj View Post
    It is absolutely shocking that connor has a roster spot. He was awful sunday, and that is his ONLY job.
    I wonder if the Jets will make some adjustments once they have a chance to see the film - like less Connor and Bart and more someone else . . .

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