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    Game Tape Observations

    - Jason Smith played quite a few snaps as the "Jumbo TE" yesterday. And
    I'm still puzzled why he's been considered a bust. In the two games he's
    played for the Jets all he's done is keep his man away from Sanchez. We
    may actually have decent O-Line depth and to think we got him for
    Wayne "Turnstile" Hunter

    - Impressed with the way Sparano moved the multiple personnel groupings
    on and off the field. Other than a stray hiccup it was like we were making
    line changes in hockey

    - With all the hysteria about those "crucial" pre-season games a couple of
    things about Sanchez got overlooked. First his completion percentage was
    around 70% and his accuracy was much improved, good to see that carry
    over

    - The development of Austin Howard is going to be fascinating to watch.
    The media consider him a "journeyman" but he's not. He converted to OT
    late in his college career and needed extra grooming on the practice squad
    before he was ready. To destroy the 100 million dollar man in the season
    opener was more than I could've hoped for

    - One promising thing to look forward to is getting Keller back up to speed.
    Because even though he played yesterday he was more of a decoy than a
    target

    - Once they got up 41-7 the defense took their foot off the gas. Its human
    nature and it happens in every sport but if you want to be the best defense
    in the game you can't do it

    - Is Mario Williams serious? Crying like a little girl that he was getting hit in
    the face? Last time I looked isn't he 6-7 and over 300 pounds try earning
    your $$$ and hit Howard back. The closest Williams got to Sanchez was in
    the post-game handshake

    - What's BUF doing with Brad Smith? They signed him to a 4 year 15 million
    $$$ contract and he never played a down. What a waste of talent and
    money

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRL View Post
    - Jason Smith played quite a few snaps as the "Jumbo TE" yesterday. And
    I'm still puzzled why he's been considered a bust. In the two games he's
    played for the Jets all he's done is keep his man away from Sanchez. We
    may actually have decent O-Line depth and to think we got him for
    Wayne "Turnstile" Hunter

    - Impressed with the way Sparano moved the multiple personnel groupings
    on and off the field. Other than a stray hiccup it was like we were making
    line changes in hockey

    - With all the hysteria about those "crucial" pre-season games a couple of
    things about Sanchez got overlooked. First his completion percentage was
    around 70% and his accuracy was much improved, good to see that carry
    over

    - The development of Austin Howard is going to be fascinating to watch.
    The media consider him a "journeyman" but he's not. He converted to OT
    late in his college career and needed extra grooming on the practice squad
    before he was ready. To destroy the 100 million dollar man in the season
    opener was more than I could've hoped for

    - One promising thing to look forward to is getting Keller back up to speed.
    Because even though he played yesterday he was more of a decoy than a
    target

    - Once they got up 41-7 the defense took their foot off the gas. Its human
    nature and it happens in every sport but if you want to be the best defense
    in the game you can't do it

    - Is Mario Williams serious? Crying like a little girl that he was getting hit in
    the face? Last time I looked isn't he 6-7 and over 300 pounds try earning
    your $$$ and hit Howard back. The closest Williams got to Sanchez was in
    the post-game handshake

    - What's BUF doing with Brad Smith? They signed him to a 4 year 15 million
    $$$ contract and he never played a down. What a waste of talent and
    money
    I think Brad Smith was Hurt?

    Agree about Howard converted TE plus he came from a small school

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    My favorite is Mario Williams complaining.

    What's each sack worth so far? Money up front?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRL View Post
    - Jason Smith played quite a few snaps as the "Jumbo TE" yesterday. And
    I'm still puzzled why he's been considered a bust. In the two games he's
    played for the Jets all he's done is keep his man away from Sanchez. We
    may actually have decent O-Line depth and to think we got him for
    Wayne "Turnstile" Hunter

    - Impressed with the way Sparano moved the multiple personnel groupings
    on and off the field. Other than a stray hiccup it was like we were making
    line changes in hockey

    - With all the hysteria about those "crucial" pre-season games a couple of
    things about Sanchez got overlooked. First his completion percentage was
    around 70% and his accuracy was much improved, good to see that carry
    over

    - The development of Austin Howard is going to be fascinating to watch.
    The media consider him a "journeyman" but he's not. He converted to OT
    late in his college career and needed extra grooming on the practice squad
    before he was ready. To destroy the 100 million dollar man in the season
    opener was more than I could've hoped for

    - One promising thing to look forward to is getting Keller back up to speed.
    Because even though he played yesterday he was more of a decoy than a
    target

    - Once they got up 41-7 the defense took their foot off the gas. Its human
    nature and it happens in every sport but if you want to be the best defense
    in the game you can't do it

    - Is Mario Williams serious? Crying like a little girl that he was getting hit in
    the face? Last time I looked isn't he 6-7 and over 300 pounds try earning
    your $$$ and hit Howard back. The closest Williams got to Sanchez was in
    the post-game handshake

    - What's BUF doing with Brad Smith? They signed him to a 4 year 15 million
    $$$ contract and he never played a down. What a waste of talent and
    money
    Excellent post and surely I agree! Got to love the development of Howard. The guy played his butt off against pro bowl competition at DE. All he did was make the pro bowler cry!

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    I agree with every one of the OP's statements but just thought I'd throw one more in there. How about the safety play??

    Landry recorded multiple monster hits (ok so maybe one was a tad bit illegal) as did bell jarring the ball loose. They both play faster than our old sludge we had back there and their physical talent is refreshing to say the least. In short - beastness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegi5894 View Post
    I agree with every one of the OP's statements but just thought I'd throw one more in there. How about the safety play??

    Landry recorded multiple monster hits (ok so maybe one was a tad bit illegal) as did bell jarring the ball loose. They both play faster than our old sludge we had back there and their physical talent is refreshing to say the least. In short - beastness.
    Bell recovered the fumble, he wasn't the one who forced it.

    But I agree with what you're saying. The safeties, if healthy, will be our biggest improvement on D.

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    Nice observations, I'm rewatching the game now.


    A few things about the first long Spiller run (9:17 left in the 1st quarter):

    1) 3-3-5, with Wilson in the slot and Bell playing up near the line, Landry as the Deep safety.

    2) The run was intended to be right up the gut, based on the blocking. Coples was the right end was taken 1 on 1 by the LT, Devito was the NT and was doubled by the C and LG, Dixon was the left end and was doubled by the RG and RT. Harris read the play correctly and was in the "right" hole, which was opened by the double teams. Spiller escaped through a hole that opened between Coples and Devito.

    3) Devito was lined up as the NT and got a double team. He got pushed back a yard or two while Coples held his position, creating another hole for Spiller. Maybe Coples should have played it tighter, I don't know.

    4) Coples had a chance to make the tackle, but missed. There was some holding by the LT (Glenn), but I can't blame the refs for missing it.

    5) Dixon got destroyed on the backside. The run went to the other side, but Dixon got knocked so far back that he cut off Scott's path to the ball carrier. Scott had to run around him to begin his pursuit.

    6) Scott then proceeded to make a pitiful tackle attempt, going for the strip instead of wrapping up.

    7) The All-22 tape isn't available yet, but when it is I want to see how Landry positioned himself. He was the deep safety on the play, and should have been able to make the tackle. It seemed like he was trying not to get beat to the outside.


    I must have watched this play about 40 times by now. Moving on to long run # 2.

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    Let's remember that Wayne Hunter had one or two good performance in the playoffs before his contract and subsequent meltdown. He shut down some major pass rushing talent. Touching wood here and crossing fingers that Austin Howard's performance on Sunday is different for the jets this time around.

    Pretty soon there will be a book on him and opponents will attack his weaknesses. Let's see how he responds to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRL View Post

    - Is Mario Williams serious? Crying like a little girl that he was getting hit in
    the face? Last time I looked isn't he 6-7 and over 300 pounds try earning
    your $$$ and hit Howard back. The closest Williams got to Sanchez was in
    the post-game handshake

    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_0515 View Post
    My favorite is Mario Williams complaining.

    What's each sack worth so far? Money up front?
    I'm sure he got plenty sacks in preseason ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EM31 View Post
    Let's remember that Wayne Hunter had one or two good performance in the playoffs before his contract and subsequent meltdown. He shut down some major pass rushing talent. Touching wood here and crossing fingers that Austin Howard's performance on Sunday is different for the jets this time around.

    Pretty soon there will be a book on him and opponents will attack his weaknesses. Let's see how he responds to that.
    I still maintain Hunter's problems were more mental than physical -- you don't go to a therapist to get help with your technique.

    Should we proclaim Howard a pro-bowler? Of course not. But we don't need him to be. There's a WIDE gap between dominant RT and WH clone -- Howard needs to find a home somewhere in between . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwichjetfan View Post
    Bell recovered the fumble, he wasn't the one who forced it.

    But I agree with what you're saying. The safeties, if healthy, will be our biggest improvement on D.
    Not the play he's talking about. The TE made a 15+ yard catch over the middle and Bell drilled him clear in the chest after the reception, jarred the ball loose and negated what would have been a big gain and key first down.
    Last edited by JMJ; 09-11-2012 at 07:59 AM.

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    I paid over $100 for internet time to stream the game on my vacation on a cruise to Bermuda and it was worth EVERY PENNY!!!!!

    J-E-T-S JETS! JETS!! JETS!!!

    BTW, Hill and Kerley looked very good from what I saw. Loved how Kerley weaved through defenders on that punt return for a TD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EM31 View Post
    Let's remember that Wayne Hunter had one or two good performance in the playoffs before his contract and subsequent meltdown. He shut down some major pass rushing talent. Touching wood here and crossing fingers that Austin Howard's performance on Sunday is different for the jets this time around.

    Pretty soon there will be a book on him and opponents will attack his weaknesses. Let's see how he responds to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaPZ187 View Post
    I paid over $100 for internet time to stream the game on my vacation on a cruise to Bermuda and it was worth EVERY PENNY!!!!!

    J-E-T-S JETS! JETS!! JETS!!!

    BTW, Hill and Kerley looked very good from what I saw. Loved how Kerley weaved through defenders on that punt return for a TD!
    Where did you get the stream?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB1089 View Post
    Nice observations, I'm rewatching the game now.


    A few things about the first long Spiller run (9:17 left in the 1st quarter):

    1) 3-3-5, with Wilson in the slot and Bell playing up near the line, Landry as the Deep safety.

    2) The run was intended to be right up the gut, based on the blocking. Coples was the right end was taken 1 on 1 by the LT, Devito was the NT and was doubled by the C and LG, Dixon was the left end and was doubled by the RG and RT. Harris read the play correctly and was in the "right" hole, which was opened by the double teams. Spiller escaped through a hole that opened between Coples and Devito.

    3) Devito was lined up as the NT and got a double team. He got pushed back a yard or two while Coples held his position, creating another hole for Spiller. Maybe Coples should have played it tighter, I don't know.

    4) Coples had a chance to make the tackle, but missed. There was some holding by the LT (Glenn), but I can't blame the refs for missing it.

    5) Dixon got destroyed on the backside. The run went to the other side, but Dixon got knocked so far back that he cut off Scott's path to the ball carrier. Scott had to run around him to begin his pursuit.

    6) Scott then proceeded to make a pitiful tackle attempt, going for the strip instead of wrapping up.

    7) The All-22 tape isn't available yet, but when it is I want to see how Landry positioned himself. He was the deep safety on the play, and should have been able to make the tackle. It seemed like he was trying not to get beat to the outside.


    I must have watched this play about 40 times by now. Moving on to long run # 2.
    If anybody can get this stuff fixed it is Dunbar. Dixon, who I stick up for, did not have a good game. But as a whole on the DL I think there was a lack of discipline. I wasn't happy with Ellis either who I was boasting about the day before.

    I think Scott went for the ball and was also trying to protect himself b.c he saw that Landry was coming in low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB1089 View Post
    Nice observations, I'm rewatching the game now.


    7) The All-22 tape isn't available yet, but when it is I want to see how Landry positioned himself. He was the deep safety on the play, and should have been able to make the tackle. It seemed like he was trying not to get beat to the outside.
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    Where could I find this or the "coaches tape" like KRL described. I have a semi going just thinking about the prospects. No homo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
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    I dunno. I think Hunter is very sound with his technique.

    He uses feet well. He doesn't lunge and get off balance. And he gets his hands on the guys. He is also a very big man and it is hard to over power him. Williams is one of the bigger rushers in the league and Howard did not get pushed.

    But I think this week we will learn more. Woodley and Harrison are both strong and athletic. They each have multiple moves. I am excited to see how this one plays out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    I dunno. I think Hunter is very sound with his technique.

    He uses feet well. He doesn't lunge and get off balance. And he gets his hands on the guys. He is also a very big man and it is hard to over power him. Williams is one of the bigger rushers in the league and Howard did not get pushed.

    But I think this week we will learn more. Woodley and Harrison are both strong and athletic. They each have multiple moves. I am excited to see how this one plays out.
    Not saying he isn't (I'm sure you mean Howard)..But there is very little tape of him..So let's see what happens once other teams start scouting/watching him on tape identifying his tendencies/weaknesses.

    And..everyone now knows who he is because of Mario Williams post-game claim..So I'm sure the refs will be watching him closer now..

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