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    Cutler
    Ware
    Stafford
    Rex
    Willis

    Hardest choice was Rex v Beli. The rest were easy assuming they are being made in a vacuum and not taking age and salary into question.


    Who's better?
    Ryan vs. Flacco?
    Eli vs. Big Ben?
    Ware vs. JPP?
    Fitz vs. AJ?
    Brees vs. ARodgers?
    DHarris vs. PWillis?

    Flacco
    Eli
    Ware
    Fitz
    Rodgers
    Willis

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    Here is an OL/TE version for y'all. In a vacuum. No age or salary or surrounding talent to be considered.

    Mangold or Maurkice Pouncey

    Brick or Joe Thomas

    Jhari Evans or Carl Nicks

    Gronk or Graham

    Hernandez or Finley

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    Cutler
    Ware
    Stafford
    Rex
    Willis

    Hardest choice was Rex v Beli. The rest were easy assuming they are being made in a vacuum and not taking age and salary into question.

    You'd take a clown with a big mouth over the best HC in the NFL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
    You'd take a clown with a big mouth over the best HC in the NFL?
    In a vaccuum without Brady, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    Cutler
    Ware
    Stafford

    Rex
    Willis

    Hardest choice was Rex v Beli. The rest were easy assuming they are being made in a vacuum and not taking age and salary into question.


    Flacco
    Eli
    Ware
    Fitz
    Rodgers
    Willis
    Reasons for Stafford over Cam and Ware over Revis?

    I don't think any of them are 'easy' based on fundamentals...but if you emphasis your perception over fundamentals, then they could be easy.

    Case in point, based on fundamental values such as mechanics, numbers, and hardware, I can't disagree with your choice of Eli.

    But to me, it's not a contest...I'm taking Big Ben right now.
    Last edited by greenwichjetfan; 09-15-2012 at 10:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    Here is an OL/TE version for y'all. In a vacuum. No age or salary or surrounding talent to be considered.

    Mangold or Maurkice Pouncey

    Brick or Joe Thomas

    Jhari Evans or Carl Nicks

    Gronk or Graham

    Hernandez or Finley
    Mangold

    Thomas

    Evans...nicks has only one (albeit, good) game under his belt without Brees.

    Hernandez...finly's got worse hands than MJFox (I love ole Marty McFly and I know its in bad taste...but it's true)

    Gronk vs Jimmy is tough...as our pal Jamaican said, today it's Gronk, ask me again tomorrow and it'll be Jimmy.

    Good ones!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
    You'd take a clown with a big mouth over the best HC in the NFL?
    See below.

    Quote Originally Posted by greenwichjetfan View Post
    In a vaccuum without Brady, yes.
    Exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by greenwichjetfan View Post
    Reasons for Stafford over Cam and Ware over Revis?

    I don't think any of them are 'easy' based on fundamentals...but if you emphasis your perception over fundamentals, then they could be easy.

    Case in point, based on fundamental values such as mechanics, numbers, and hardware, I can't disagree with your choice of Eli.

    But to me, it's not a contest...I'm taking Big Ben right now.
    Stafford over Cam is not that easy. I should have chosen better words. But I think Stafford is a more polished QB and is a better decision maker. At this point in time I take him over Cam. Next year or in two years that might change. But I need to see more from Cam.

    Ware over Revis is b.c I value pass rush more than coverage and Ware is also great against the run. Ware is involved in nearly every play.

    Eli over Big Ben b.c of his durability and football IQ. Big Ben is "durable" in that he doesn't miss many games but he is always getting hurt b.c of how he plays. Eli has never missed a start and like his brother he does not put himself in position to get hurt. I want a QB that I know is going to play every game for me. I think Eli has a better grasp of offensive concepts than Big Ben. Big Ben makes his name when there is chaos and he improvises. He excels after the play is broken down. I like a guy who can make the most out of the play that is called and doesn't have to improvise. Although I will say that Big Bens ability to improvise is a virtue and not a vice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwichjetfan View Post
    Mangold

    Thomas

    Evans...nicks has only one (albeit, good) game under his belt without Brees.

    Hernandez...finly's got worse hands than MJFox (I love ole Marty McFly and I know its in bad taste...but it's true)

    Gronk vs Jimmy is tough...as our pal Jamaican said, today it's Gronk, ask me again tomorrow and it'll be Jimmy.

    Good ones!


    In a vacuum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwichjetfan View Post
    In a vaccuum without Brady, yes.
    Rex hasn't won a damn thing in 3 years as a NFL HC.

    0 Division titles
    0 Conference championships
    0 Super Bowl titles

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwichjetfan View Post
    New leg of choices:

    Cutler vs. Sanchez (try to keep the scope of their careers and not just the most recent game both have played)

    Revis vs. Ware

    Stafford vs. Cam Newton (put them both on the browns for the exercise)

    ADP vs Arian Foster?

    Belichick vs. Rex (oh boy this should be fun...put em both on the neutral Titans for this one)

    DHarris vs. PWillis? (yes this is a serious question, and I'm leaving it up so that I can publicly stick up for the Hitman, and prove that he's not to be dismissed so callously)


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    Post your own along with your answers.
    Cutler. He's a good qb with a bad ol. Simply put, Sanchez needs to do a lot more to even be an above average qb. It could happen, but for now, Cutler.

    Revis is a better cb than Ware is a rusher. But I think ware has more value on a team

    Cam Newton on the Browns, Stafford on a good team with a good OL.

    Adrian Peterson. More talent

    Belichick. Rex is one of the best 10 coaches in the game right now. Belichick is a HOF coach with multiple visits the the SB. It's not close

    Willis - Harris is a good LB, Willis is an all-pro

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwichjetfan View Post
    Had some good responses in the first run, let's keep it going...

    Cutler vs. Sanchez (try to keep the scope of their careers and not just the most recent game both have played)

    Revis vs. Ware

    Stafford vs. Cam Newton (put them both on the browns for the exercise)

    ADP vs Arian Foster?

    Belichick vs. Rex (oh boy this should be fun...put em both on the neutral Titans for this one)

    DHarris vs. PWillis? (yes this is a serious question, and I'm leaving it up so that I can publicly stick up for the Hitman, and prove that he's not to be dismissed so callously)


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    Post your own along with your answers.
    Sanchez (Cutler has more arm talent, but hasn't showed improvement. I wonder about his work ethic)

    Revis (Ware is in his 30's and will begin to decline - I think)

    Cam (More durable and more potential)

    ADP (once a generation talent)

    Rex (BB was a crappy coach before Brady. He's 53 - 53 without Brady. If you consider Mark an avg QB, then Rex got to two AFCCG with less talent.)

    Willis (more speed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatsFanTX View Post
    Rex hasn't won a damn thing in 3 years as a NFL HC.

    0 Division titles
    0 Conference championships
    0 Super Bowl titles
    Cool story bro.

    In Rex's first three years as a HC, he's accomplished more than Beli's first three years as a HC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post


    In a vacuum.



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    Cutler
    Revis
    Newton
    Foster
    Belichick
    Willis

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenwichjetfan View Post
    Cool story bro.

    In Rex's first three years as a HC, he's accomplished more than Beli's first three years as a HC.
    Well now...20-28 isn't so bad, is it?
    Rex had the same numbers....just reversed.

    BB was 41-55 as a HC until Tom Brady showed up. So the whole 'in a vacuum' thing definitely makes this more of a debate than some might think, unless Tex is going to argue Sanchez is far better than Kosar was in CLE.

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