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    Dilfer's film study on Jets/Sanchez

    He's been breaking down game tape of QB's from last week, he's up to Sanchez now:

    Trent Dilfer ‏@TDESPN

    #filmstudy Sanchez Biggest thing that jumped off tape was how decisive he played. Saw pictures clearly, processed quickly & #Dealt

    Sanchez His timing & anticipation were as good as I've seen from him. 1st two TD's he utilized nice pump fakes & anticipated well

    Sanchez=Excellent on 3rd down making the correct decision "quickly" & getting to weakness of D. Also,very good location on passes

    Sanchez One of the best plays was flea flicker to Hill to open up 3rd. D had soft cov on corner route & 6 throws back shoulder

    Sanchez showed some #GraduateLevelQuarterbacking with quick eyes, pump fakes, & shoulder nods to help open up receivers. Surgeon?

    Sanchez/Jets Lots of credit to Oline for clean pocket on most throws, but Sanchez also got ball out really quick. Combo=effecient

    Sanchez Concerns are when he has to play 2nd reaction game. Ball security is brutal & wasted movement. Pocket conflict=breakdown

    Sanchez Also concerned he hasn't fixed over stride w/front leg when climbing forward in pocket=inconsistent location & ball speed

    Jets Holmes struggled w/tough bump & run cov. Tebow plays had a chance, but poor execution of blocking, & Hill has nice feel 4 gm

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDL_JET View Post
    He's been breaking down game tape of QB's from last week, he's up to Sanchez now:

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    Several references to the quickness of Sanchez's movements during the game. Then you remember Sparano's "get the ball out in 3 seconds" drill, and you realize the kind of difference a new OC can make.

    Would be nice to see the difference in the amount of plays that utilized pre-snap motion on Sunday vs. what we saw on average in the prior six years. Run the original play call (or the "kill" option) and let the QB focus on getting the ball out quickly. What a novel concept.

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    "Jets Holmes struggled w/tough bump & run cov."

    What's new? The epitome of a #2 WR, a guy that can make plays and be a force if the other team is preoccupied with true #1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenWave View Post
    Several references to the quickness of Sanchez's movements during the game. Then you remember Sparano's "get the ball out in 3 seconds" drill, and you realize the kind of difference a new OC can make.

    Would be nice to see the difference in the amount of plays that utilized pre-snap motion on Sunday vs. what we saw on average in the prior six years. Run the original play call (or the "kill" option) and let the QB focus on getting the ball out quickly. What a novel concept.
    What I liked most was that the ball was coming out quickly BUT it was also going downfield some. Its one thing to get rid of the ball quickly on a little flare pattern. Its another thing to be able to find a guy 10 - 15 yards downfield. For whatever reason, the Jets O last year didn't seem to be able to find those guys with any regularity.

    The Oline did a great job keeping him clean but Sanchez helped them out by simply not requiring them to block for 5 seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenWave View Post
    Several references to the quickness of Sanchez's movements during the game. Then you remember Sparano's "get the ball out in 3 seconds" drill, and you realize the kind of difference a new OC can make.

    Would be nice to see the difference in the amount of plays that utilized pre-snap motion on Sunday vs. what we saw on average in the prior six years. Run the original play call (or the "kill" option) and let the QB focus on getting the ball out quickly. What a novel concept.
    Yeah right an O-coordinator means nothing. Coaches coach and players play.



































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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    "Jets Holmes struggled w/tough bump & run cov."

    What's new? The epitome of a #2 WR, a guy that can make plays and be a force if the other team is preoccupied with true #1.
    Holmes could have had over 100 yards vs the Bills. Sanchez missed him wide open on one play, where he might have been able to take it for 6. Then he just missed a nice TD grab, if only he held his hand back for a second longer he would have had both feet in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    "Jets Holmes struggled w/tough bump & run cov."

    What's new? The epitome of a #2 WR, a guy that can make plays and be a force if the other team is preoccupied with true #1.
    There's probably 3 WR who don't struggle with tough bump & run coverage.

    We get it you hate him, but he's a number 1.

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    Agree with Dilfer's analysis. Sanchez is good when the o-line gives him time and his 1st/2nd reads are there. It's when the play breaks down that he needs to show better poise.

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    Sanchez Also concerned he hasn't fixed over stride w/front leg when climbing forward in pocket=inconsistent location & ball speed
    Probably his biggest problem other than accuracy. Although according to Dilfer they are linked.

    He is only 6'2" but he has high release point which helps make up for that. However, the long stride almost negates what he gets from the high release. But that isn't what the main issue is. If the pocket is pushed back, Sanchez is in trouble. The long stride means he is closer to the defense when he releases the ball which results in more tipped balls at the LOS.



    As for Holmes, nearly all WRs his size struggle with a really good press coverage. The reason why teams don't always do it is b.c CBs are afraid of missing their press and getting torched.

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    So it would appear Mark's upper extremity (head) is progressing quicker than his lower ones (feet)?

    I'll take that in a hearbeat . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    "Jets Holmes struggled w/tough bump & run cov."

    What's new? The epitome of a #2 WR, a guy that can make plays and be a force if the other team is preoccupied with true #1.
    If I remember correctly Santonio played as the Z a lot too.

    Off the line and still getting caught up in the jam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crasherino View Post
    ....you realize the kind of difference a new OC can make.
    Did we ever score 48 points in the 5+ years with Schotty as OC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    "Jets Holmes struggled w/tough bump & run cov."

    What's new? The epitome of a #2 WR, a guy that can make plays and be a force if the other team is preoccupied with true #1.
    Well, hopefully Hill can be a #1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Nut View Post
    There's probably 3 WR who don't struggle with tough bump & run coverage.

    We get it you hate him, but he's a number 1.
    Not in my books he isn't. Look at his production and his play the last two years. He is in no way shape or form a proper #1, and this is totally disregarding his character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    Not in my books he isn't. Look at his production and his play the last two years. He is in no way shape or form a proper #1, and this is totally disregarding his character.
    JMO, but its not necessary to get caught up in who's a proper #1 receiver. For me, I'd rather look at the entire receiving corp. If they can be effective and complement each other well and the offense is productive, I don't care if Holmes gets the receptions, if Hill does or Glass Joe Schilens is getting them. As long as the ball is moving.

    To me, there are only about 7-10 #1 WRs in the league anyway so its not really feasible for every team to have a #1 WR. Even every playoff team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Nut View Post
    There's probably 3 WR who don't struggle with tough bump & run coverage.



    We get it you hate him, but he's a number 1.
    Holmes is NOT a number one. He's a nice number two ala manningham type of player. Def not worth 1/3 of the salary we are paying him



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    Trent Dilfer ‏@TDESPN
    #filmstudy Everybody wants to know lists. This is the golden era of QB play. Most of these guys r amazing, but have different unique traits

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    Trent Dilfer ‏@TDESPN
    #filmstudy Everybody wants to know lists. This is the golden era of QB play. Most of these guys r amazing, but have different unique traits
    He's right. You go back like 7 or 8 years and it was just Manning, Brady and maybe Favre.

    Coaching has gotten better at every level. Most high schools throw the ball a ton nowadays.

    Not to mention the rule changes.
    Last edited by DDNYjets; 09-13-2012 at 05:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k.Rhodes25 View Post
    Holmes could have had over 100 yards vs the Bills. Sanchez missed him wide open on one play, where he might have been able to take it for 6. Then he just missed a nice TD grab, if only he held his hand back for a second longer he would have had both feet in.

    Drew ‏@DrewfromJersey @TDESPN
    What was the issue on the wide open Holmes overthrow up the sideline? Foot work or just bad throw? #Jets #FilmStudy

    Trent Dilfer ‏@TDESPN @DrewfromJersey
    The almost TD? It was a really good throw. He had to pipe it to beat safety and Holmes slowed down a hair after 1st move

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