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    It could be the Wilder Effect: the media has declared that voting against Obama is racist, so people tell pollsters what they think they should say in public. We won't know the truth till after the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmetto defender View Post
    Especially with the Caliph in the WH?

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    Romney is doing just fine even though he is a bit stiff.
    Don't see no problems other than there has never been success running for President saying your going to cut the spending out.

    Obama won with 52 percent of voters. Romney should get 51

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    This idea that Romney should be ahead by alot is not based in political reality. In my lifetime only 2 sitting presidents have been unseated. Carter and Bush 1. Bush 1 was more about Perot then anything else. The reason is that people have a hard time admitting they were wrong. When you cast a vote for a candidate you mentally commit to them. To admit you made a mistake is difficult for people. They want to give their guy the benefit of the doubt. Meanwhile the election is basically tied at the moment. Rassmussen has Romney up by two. Gallup has Barry up by two. This election is looking eerily similar to the 1980 election. The economy continues to decelerate. The fed continues to print money with no end in sight and while that helps prop up the stock market temporarily it hasnt done much to help the economy. On the foreign policy front the islamists are bubbling up. Obama, like Carter before him, supported the ouster of our ally Mubarek in Egypt and helped hand that country over to Islamists. The administration has made it clear that they won't confront Iran in a serious way essentially paving the way for their acquisition of nukes and subsequent takeover of the middle east. The media has been giving Obama cover on this issue but eventually realitity will set in.

    The debates are the next major event. This thing can go either way but I'm still confident in my guy.
    Last edited by chiefst2000; 09-17-2012 at 09:44 PM.

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    Whatever party wins this election will lose the war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    Whatever party wins this election will lose the war.
    Correction: Whatever party wins this election, the voters will lose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    And yet, with all these factors against the President......Romney is still barely neck and neck (or behind) in most polling.

    This election, just based on the circumstances, should be an (R) cakewalk landslide.

    So how bad, uninspiring, and plain old unlikeable IS Romney, that with so much in his favor going in, he still stands where he stands now?
    Let's see ... across several "spontaneous" protests at US embassies over an obscure YouTube video (oh, it happened to be on Sept 11th) a US ambassador and 3 US employees are killed by a Libyan force.

    I say "force" because, according to a Libyan guard injured at the scene, one minute there was nobody there and the next it was 125+ armed to the teeth, this was not a march that got violent.

    The official US version says others.

    Anyway, the US press unanimously blamed Mitt Romney. And that same press owns most the polling companies announcing how poorly Romney is doing.

    It might work, too. It's not about ideas. It's not about being right or wrong or smart. National politics has devolved into "who's your daddy".

    Romney was right, the US foreign relations is a disgrace.

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    I think Romney may have took one step towards losing the election tonight with this video.

    Tailor made distraction from the embassy attacks for the Dems. Lib media will run with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDNYjets View Post
    I think Romney may have took one step towards losing the election tonight with this video.

    Tailor made distraction from the embassy attacks for the Dems. Lib media will run with this.
    Wait - distraction from the embassy attacks? Obama already got that. All the media wanted to talk about was some guy who made a movie in LA.

    You're implying that Obama was in some hot water? Well, maybe he is, but the media isn't going to cover it. Still waiting to see any stories about disaffected Obama voters, they just don't seem to come the pike despite a chronic unemployment problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kennyo7 View Post
    Fish, I , as most real liberals/socialists/collectiviist or whatever label you like to use, are very disappointed with Obama. Thing is, Romney is not an acceptable alternative. If real liberal/leftist were running, id probably vote for them. Too bad there isnt one.
    GUS HALL'S Your guy!!!

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    as a person not too involved with politics usually, but has paid attention quite a bit this election season. my opinion boils down to this. in Obama I see a guy who geniuinely wants to help the people of this country, I don't see that in Romney. I see him as a guy who has always had power, and the presidency is nothing more than another notch on his belt.

    see today's 47% comment for instance. I just don't believe the guy cares.

    (i know, you could say the same about obama. just my opinion.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanchez 3:16 View Post
    I just don't believe the guy cares.
    What's Romney's motivation then, to get rich? To get his friends rich?

    You know that while he's made many, many times over what either Obama or Biden has - he's also given huge sums of his money away. (In 2010-11, Obama gave about 1% charitable giving / Romney about 16% / Biden less than 1%)

    Read about the uncaring bastard here:
    http://harndenblog.dailymail.co.uk/2...he-taxman.html

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    I didn't mean it in the sense that he doesn't have compassion for others, I'm sure he's a swell guy in his everyday non-political life. But I feel that Mitt Romney the politician, not the charity-giving citizen, doesn't care about my situation as a mid 20's, middle class, unemployed graduate. He might say he does. You might think he does. I don't.

    Again, just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefst2000 View Post
    This idea that Romney should be ahead by alot is not based in political reality.


    No end to the excuses from the party shill types, what a suprise.

    Well, by logical extention, if the "political reality" is that Romney shouldn;t be ahead, then I guess Obama isn't so bad after all. Such an argument certainly doesn;t support your other usual rhetoric on Obama and the results of his term and policies, but I guess party loyalists have to use whatever rhetoric suits the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanchez 3:16 View Post
    as a person not too involved with politics usually, but has paid attention quite a bit this election season. my opinion boils down to this. in Obama I see a guy who geniuinely wants to help the people of this country, I don't see that in Romney. I see him as a guy who has always had power, and the presidency is nothing more than another notch on his belt.

    see today's 47% comment for instance. I just don't believe the guy cares.

    (i know, you could say the same about obama. just my opinion.)
    Your opinion seems to be based on who's the better actor not on facts.

    Romney is not an actor at all.

    Don't be another voter that bases their opinion on feelings emotions whos cooler or how the candidates do on late-night comedy shows.
    What actions do candidates say they support. Do they seem to care but not no what the hell they're doing. Is that possible. Of course.
    Did Obama accomplish cutting the debt or does he have a good excuse not to.
    Does Romney have good points to cut the debt. Does it even really matter to cut the debt is one issue.
    Get off the who seems to cares more and onto policy and facts is my suggestion.

    I personally think it's unjust for any government to confiscate(taxes) more than 25 to 30 percent of anybody's money. That city state and feds combined. This has a lot to do with how I vote

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    Romney is not likable within his own party. Just how can anyone expect him to get across to anyone else within the complete electorate?

    The latest misstatement just shows that he is not a candidate for ALL of the people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanchez 3:16 View Post
    as a person not too involved with politics usually, but has paid attention quite a bit this election season. my opinion boils down to this. in Obama I see a guy who geniuinely wants to help the people of this country, I don't see that in Romney. I see him as a guy who has always had power, and the presidency is nothing more than another notch on his belt.

    see today's 47% comment for instance. I just don't believe the guy cares.

    (i know, you could say the same about obama. just my opinion.)
    What exactly has Obama done to make you think he wants to help the people of this country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post


    No end to the excuses from the party shill types, what a suprise.

    Well, by logical extention, if the "political reality" is that Romney shouldn;t be ahead, then I guess Obama isn't so bad after all. Such an argument certainly doesn;t support your other usual rhetoric on Obama and the results of his term and policies, but I guess party loyalists have to use whatever rhetoric suits the moment.
    if you look at the polls, Obuttocks is getting by on his personal approval ratings, not approval as President. People allegedly "like" him, but not the job he's doing.

    Hopefully, these knuckleheads will realize that you need to separate nice guy from sucks-as-President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sackdance View Post
    What's Romney's motivation then, to get rich? To get his friends rich?

    You know that while he's made many, many times over what either Obama or Biden has - he's also given huge sums of his money away. (In 2010-11, Obama gave about 1% charitable giving / Romney about 16% / Biden less than 1%)

    Read about the uncaring bastard here:
    http://harndenblog.dailymail.co.uk/2...he-taxman.html
    His motivation is to pass policy that helps and protects him and his rich friends.
    That and there still is prestige with being president of the USA.

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