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    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoastOffensive View Post
    BS Slauson is getting his ass kicked; the NT from the BIlls and now in PIT. He was callahan's guy; is something up? Was there a scheme change? Slauson seems to have dropped off noticeably.
    Yes. There was a scheme change. Jenny Vrentas wrote about it a couple of weeks ago and was posted in here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C Mart View Post
    Yes. There was a scheme change. Jenny Vrentas wrote about it a couple of weeks ago and was posted in here.
    Thanks for the reply, CM

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    Quote Originally Posted by augustiniak View Post
    starters don't typically get benched if they're not hurt and not sucking. it sounds like ducasse could be improving enough in pass protection such that he's not the liability he was, and his run blocking in between brick and mangold could help the run game this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoastOffensive View Post
    Thanks for the reply, CM

    Vrentas: Jets looking to return to ground-and-pound roots under Tony Sparano

    You got me curious about Green

    Analysis Positives: Stout frame with good overall musculature, but especially in his lower body. Good initial quickness off the snap. Downhill runner who attacks the line of scrimmage. Quick to recognize the hole and takes what the defense gives him. Rare flexibility and use of leverage for a back of his size. Runs with a very low pad level, giving defenders little to hit between his knees and shoulder pads, which is one of the reasons why he bounces off of some many tackles. Very good leg drive to take defenders for extra yardage. Finishes his runs. Falls forward to gain additional yardage to end each attempt. Good vision for the cutback. Surprisingly quick feet to bounce laterally and accelerate into the open field. Stout pass blocker who will provide a pop to the rusher and gives a good effort. At least adequate hands for the reception. Despite his relatively advanced age, should have fresh legs due to only one season as the starter.

    Negatives: Lacks the speed to consistently get to the outside or to be a true breakaway threat. Appears to have at soft hands, but lacks experience out of the backfield as a receiver, with only 11 career receptions (for 72 yards). Only one dominant season, so must convince scouts he will be productive over the long term. Might struggle with a complicated playbook. Turns 24 on August 21.

    Mayock's top prospects at each position

    By Mike Mayock
    Published: April 24, 2009 at 01:43 p.m.

    Shonn Greene*/RB/Iowa: Greene, who came out of nowhere, is one of the hottest names in scouting circles. He sat on the sidelines last season with academic issues and was a part-time player his first two years with the program. Greene even moved to defensive back for a short time but has been a dominant force at his natural position. He possesses the size, speed and skill to eventually develop into a feature runner in the NFL.

    Jason Smith/OT/Baylor: Smith is a sensational athlete whose game is drawing comparisons to former All-Pro Jonathan Ogden. He's a terrific pass protector and displays great potential when blocking in motion. Smith has moved into the draft's top-20 selections, as scouts love his productions this season, along with the great upside he possesses.
    Last edited by C Mart; 09-18-2012 at 05:00 PM.

  5. #25
    One more article on Shonn pre-draft..Iowa ran a zone blocking scheme like the Jets primarily did under Callahan...As per the article above Sparano wants to go to more of a power gap scheme..Perhaps it doesn't fit Shonn's game???

    Greene has detractors, but he’s confident

    IOWA CITY — Shonn Greene unanimously was declared the nation’s best running back last fall.

    He won the Doak Walker Award, which annually is given to college football’s best running back. He was named the Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year.

    He was a consensus All-American.

    Greene, 23, finished with 1,850 yards and 20 touchdowns, both school records at Iowa. He ran for at least 100 yards in all 13 Iowa games last season and combined both speed and power rarely found in collegiate running backs.

    “I like his running skills. I wish he were a better receiver,” ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. said. “Catching the football out of the backfield is something he needs to work. If he was a little more complete, he’d be guaranteed a second-round pick.”

    Kiper lists Greene anywhere from the NFL draft’s second through fourth rounds. Dan Shonka, general manager and national scout for Ourlads Scouting Service, LLC., lists Greene as the fourth-best running back entering the draft.

    Like Kiper, Shonka is concerned about Greene’s pass-catching skills.

    But Greene’s downhill running style and experience of running the ball in a zone-blocking scheme could elevate him into the second round.

    “A lot of teams run a zone-blocking scheme, and Shonn is perfect because that’s what they teach at Iowa,” Shonka said. “The offensive line is taught pro techniques at Iowa. Shonn is a downhill one-cut runner, so he’s going to fit in a lot of different schemes.

    “Obviously, I think the thing that concerns people about Shonn is his ability to block and to catch ball out of the backfield. But they just didn’t throw it to him a lot. And when they did, he kind of fumbled it or double caught it, or he wasn’t smooth catching the ball.”

    Greene caught eight passes for 49 yards last season.

    In February, Greene struggled in measurable categories at the NFL Combine.

    He ran the 40-yard dash in 4.66 seconds, but then cut that time to anywhere from 4.59 to 4.50 seconds at Iowa’s pro day, depending on the stopwatches. He also increased his 225-pound bench press repetitions from 19 at the NFL Combine to 23 at Iowa’s pro day.

    “I feel like I had a very good day,” Greene said after his pro day workout. “I did everything better than I did at the combine. I ran faster, lifted more reps with the bench, did pro agility faster. I think I did pretty good, caught the ball well.”

    Shonka slotted Greene as a second-round pick to Houston and provide a 1-2 punch with second-year running back Steve Slaton. Kiper raved about Greene’s intangibles when running the football.

    “Greene, I think, is a running back,” Kiper said. “You like his determination. I like the low center of gravity, the way he ran with power between the tackles, good balance as well. I like his running skills; I wish he were a better receiver.”

    Greene, a junior last season, was ruled academically ineligible for the 2007 season and went to Kirkwood Community College to regain his eligibility. He was on pace to graduate before he declared to enter the NFL draft.
    Greene shrugs off the experts’ criticism and instead points to his production last year.

    “If you look at the stats and all that, it will tell you that I’m the top back,” Greene said. “You look at some of those guys that I went head-to-head with and some of them I faced the same defense, and I did much better.

    I’m not worried about that. Whoever takes me is going to get a good running back.”

    “He’s fast, and he’s big, and he’s a pro,” said former Purdue defensive coordinator Brock Spack, who now is the head coach at Illinois State. “He’s the best back in this conference — bar none. There’s no contest.”

    Greene’s college accolades have failed to vault him into the NFL first-round draft discussion. Whether it’s his size (5 feet, 9 inches, 227 pounds), a year of academic ineligibility, only one proven collegiate season or difficulty catching the ball out of the backfield, someone always has something negative to say about Greene.
    Last edited by C Mart; 09-18-2012 at 05:22 PM.


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