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    Games are won before they're played

    I have been a Jets fan since the beginning and I've seen it all with this franchise. This franchise has been a rudderless ship since Leon Hess became the sole owner. I was hoping Woody would do a lot better job at putting a first rate NFL front office in place. This franchise lacks leadership from Woody down to the players. There has to be people in charge that demand accountability from the top down to be successful. Tanny is not a first rate NFL GM he is a bean counter first and foremost trying to be a GM. He is better than Gutman was but still doesn't belong running the football operation. When it comes to setting up a scouting dept. and making decisions on who to draft. The Jets need a GM who knows how to hire top rate scouts and have eyes for talent. Rex needs to do a lot better at demanding discipline and getting this team position to win games.
    No team has stars at every position. You practice like you play! Evidently the Jets don't put a lot of priority on preparing for games. If they did they wouldn't be good one week and terrible the next. Practice and preparation have to be like your playing the baddest team every week. I can only draw on my experience what I was taught by my second football coach in Jr. High. We were the smallest school in our league. We only had eight of us returning from the previous year. We were the doormats for years and didn't win a game the previous year. We were small but we had speed. The new couch worked us harder than the previous coach preaching conditioning and mental toughness. We ran laps and did wind sprints before and after practice. Sit ups, push ups, squats, jumping jacks etc. every day and blocking and tackling drills until he was satisfied that we were doing things right. We all hated him and thought he was nuts. We couldn't understand why we weren't running plays. A few guys quit and he told them not to bother trying out for other sports he was coaching. He didn't like quitters. Any way our practices were so hard we looked forward to game day (a day of rest). Well, he taught us well because we didn't lose a game. He is a very old man today and everyone who played for him will never forget the lessons he taught us about football and life. He always said if we shoot for perfection and practice hard the game would be easier. He said the games are won or lost before they're played. These are a few of the things that the Jet franchise lacks that our cross town rivals have.

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    Woody has only been at it for around 12 years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirt View Post
    I have been a Jets fan since the beginning and I've seen it all with this franchise. This franchise has been a rudderless ship since Leon Hess became the sole owner. I was hoping Woody would do a lot better job at putting a first rate NFL front office in place. This franchise lacks leadership from Woody down to the players. There has to be people in charge that demand accountability from the top down to be successful. Tanny is not a first rate NFL GM he is a bean counter first and foremost trying to be a GM. He is better than Gutman was but still doesn't belong running the football operation. When it comes to setting up a scouting dept. and making decisions on who to draft. The Jets need a GM who knows how to hire top rate scouts and have eyes for talent. Rex needs to do a lot better at demanding discipline and getting this team position to win games.
    No team has stars at every position. You practice like you play! Evidently the Jets don't put a lot of priority on preparing for games. If they did they wouldn't be good one week and terrible the next. Practice and preparation have to be like your playing the baddest team every week. I can only draw on my experience what I was taught by my second football coach in Jr. High. We were the smallest school in our league. We only had eight of us returning from the previous year. We were the doormats for years and didn't win a game the previous year. We were small but we had speed. The new couch worked us harder than the previous coach preaching conditioning and mental toughness. We ran laps and did wind sprints before and after practice. Sit ups, push ups, squats, jumping jacks etc. every day and blocking and tackling drills until he was satisfied that we were doing things right. We all hated him and thought he was nuts. We couldn't understand why we weren't running plays. A few guys quit and he told them not to bother trying out for other sports he was coaching. He didn't like quitters. Any way our practices were so hard we looked forward to game day (a day of rest). Well, he taught us well because we didn't lose a game. He is a very old man today and everyone who played for him will never forget the lessons he taught us about football and life. He always said if we shoot for perfection and practice hard the game would be easier. He said the games are won or lost before they're played. These are a few of the things that the Jet franchise lacks that our cross town rivals have.




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    So basically, if I am getting the gist, the Jets are already doomed to lose to the Dophlins tomorrow because of poor preparation by Rex?

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    Halftime adjustments win games.

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    Points win games. In particular, the team who scores the most.

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    Beer and hot dog consumption at the game wins games since that revenue goes to sign expensive free agents in the future.

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    I would have gone with "He always said if we shoot for perfection and practice hard the game would be easier"
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    Christ, punctuation and paragraphs please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snell41 View Post
    Christ, punctuation and paragraphs please!
    this guy gets it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snell41 View Post
    Christ, punctuation and paragraphs please!
    Not necessarily in that order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirt View Post
    I have been a Jets fan since the beginning and I've seen it all with this franchise. This franchise has been a rudderless ship since Leon Hess became the sole owner. I was hoping Woody would do a lot better job at putting a first rate NFL front office in place. This franchise lacks leadership from Woody down to the players. There has to be people in charge that demand accountability from the top down to be successful. Tanny is not a first rate NFL GM he is a bean counter first and foremost trying to be a GM. He is better than Gutman was but still doesn't belong running the football operation. When it comes to setting up a scouting dept. and making decisions on who to draft. The Jets need a GM who knows how to hire top rate scouts and have eyes for talent. Rex needs to do a lot better at demanding discipline and getting this team position to win games.
    No team has stars at every position. You practice like you play! Evidently the Jets don't put a lot of priority on preparing for games. If they did they wouldn't be good one week and terrible the next. Practice and preparation have to be like your playing the baddest team every week. I can only draw on my experience what I was taught by my second football coach in Jr. High. We were the smallest school in our league. We only had eight of us returning from the previous year. We were the doormats for years and didn't win a game the previous year. We were small but we had speed. The new couch worked us harder than the previous coach preaching conditioning and mental toughness. We ran laps and did wind sprints before and after practice. Sit ups, push ups, squats, jumping jacks etc. every day and blocking and tackling drills until he was satisfied that we were doing things right. We all hated him and thought he was nuts. We couldn't understand why we weren't running plays. A few guys quit and he told them not to bother trying out for other sports he was coaching. He didn't like quitters. Any way our practices were so hard we looked forward to game day (a day of rest). Well, he taught us well because we didn't lose a game. He is a very old man today and everyone who played for him will never forget the lessons he taught us about football and life. He always said if we shoot for perfection and practice hard the game would be easier. He said the games are won or lost before they're played. These are a few of the things that the Jet franchise lacks that our cross town rivals have.
    So I'm guessing you went on to a HOF career. Let me guess. Are you Jerry Rice?

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    You know alot of guys are cracking on Squirt about this thread and his post, but, there are some points he makes that ring true to me - particularly in this young season.

    I find myself questioning the mental and physical toughness of the Jets, especially after last week in Pitt. The Steelers (who I despise almost as much as the Patriots) played harder, they were mentally tougher, they were hitting harder, they seemed to want it more then the Jets did.

    The Jets defense has not been able to play 4 full quarters yet that I have seen. They will play very good for a half or even 3 quarters ALA the Buffalo game but then they seem to lose their intensity & focus and do not show the ability to CLOSE A GAME. Lack of conditioning and/or mental toughness/discipline could very well be contributing factors to this recurring problem.

    Now I am reading all of this about bringing in sleep specialists, letting the players get more rest, I don't know, this just sounds like Rex is letting things get soft to me - I hope I'm wrong.

    Squirt is right - practices should be tougher then the game and the Jets don't seem to have enough intensity in their practices - Rex even went so far as to say he wasn't happy with the week of practice leading up to the Pittsburgh game, which lead to this sleep specialist nonsense. I don't think that this is the answer....I guess we'll find out later today.

    The Jets are a better team then the Dolphins almost across the board talent-wise, (with the lone exception of the RB position). That being said, in my opinion, if the Jets lose to Miami, it will be an indictment that the Jets are getting soft, that they lack mental & physical toughness and are not practicing hard enough. If that happens, it will be time for Rex to really crack the whip or risk letting another season spiral out of control.
    Last edited by ARodFLKeysJetsFan; 09-23-2012 at 03:55 AM.

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    You had a good coach. Sometimes people need to be pushed to reach their potential, they just don't realize it until it pays off.

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    Rex believes sleeping in and not working as hard is the key to winning games

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARodFLKeysJetsFan View Post
    You know alot of guys are cracking on Squirt about this thread and his post, but, there are some points he makes that ring true to me - particularly in this young season.

    I find myself questioning the mental and physical toughness of the Jets, especially after last week in Pitt. The Steelers (who I despise almost as much as the Patriots) played harder, they were mentally tougher, they were hitting harder, they seemed to want it more then the Jets did.

    The Jets defense has not been able to play 4 full quarters yet that I have seen. They will play very good for a half or even 3 quarters ALA the Buffalo game but then they seem to lose their intensity & focus and do not show the ability to CLOSE A GAME. Lack of conditioning and/or mental toughness/discipline could very well be contributing factors to this recurring problem.

    Now I am reading all of this about bringing in sleep specialists, letting the players get more rest, I don't know, this just sounds like Rex is letting things get soft to me - I hope I'm wrong.

    Squirt is right - practices should be tougher then the game and the Jets don't seem to have enough intensity in their practices - Rex even went so far as to say he wasn't happy with the week of practice leading up to the Pittsburgh game, which lead to this sleep specialist nonsense. I don't think that this is the answer....I guess we'll find out later today.

    The Jets are a better team then the Dolphins almost across the board talent-wise, (with the lone exception of the RB position). That being said, in my opinion, if the Jets lose to Miami, it will be an indictment that the Jets are getting soft, that they lack mental & physical toughness and are not practicing hard enough. If that happens, it will be time for Rex to really crack the whip or risk letting another season spiral out of control.
    Agreed and well written! I also enjoyed reading and agreed with Squirt's post! The Jets seem to lack a killer instinct! They are soft! Look at the Buffalo game. We needed to step on their thoat and win the game easily in the second half. Did we? . NO we played it safe and let them back into the game. CJ Spiller looked like the best rb ever against our vaunted defense that REX says is top 5. Against Pittsburgh it was business as-usual vs Pittsburgh: Out-hit; out-coached;out-hustled! Why is that allowed to happen? As soon as we get hit in the nose we become soft! Look at our QB in the Pittsburgh game. Does anyone think that Miami "might" look to hit and intimidate Sanchez today? And if they are successful, will we get to see the infamous deer-in-the-headlights-look?

    I hope we CRUSH Miami. Run up the score. Hit Tannehill as many times as it takes to back him down! Enough with the nice guy act! We are on a mission to win the game! As Herm said" You play to win the game".
    Last edited by Kentucky Jet; 09-23-2012 at 08:20 AM.

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    No, a comfortable mattress and a favorite binky are the key to winning games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NY's stepchild View Post
    Not necessarily in that order.
    What's wrong with putting Christ first?!?!?!

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