Voting should require an ID, and that ID should be checked/confirmed at the time the vote is being cast. This is not an (R) position, this is my position, and I continue to believe it's the very LEAST we should be doing to ensure the process has any integrity/barriers to fraud.
If someone were to say to you, "I am confident that there will be tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of legitimate voter suppresion due to voter ID." I am pretty confident you would laugh that off and tell someone to provide proof.
The idea being that voters (i.e. people who will have to take action in order to vote) are apparently incappable (especially minorities) of also taking action in order to aquire the ONE piece of documentation you almost cannot get through life without in our modern society.
And yes, my confidenince re: bad votes is founded not on stats (because lol, how can we get stats if we're not checking anything to stat'ize?), but on basic logic. Checking ID's is what I call basic validation, security. Not checking ID's is what I call "lolo, trust us, no one would ever cheat, lol derp, derp".
And frankly, their is politics behind both sides. Yes, Republicans don't want fraud.....or lazy socially inept Democrats too stupid to get ID's (or walk and chew gum) to vote. Democrats WANT ignorant, stupid lazy and illegal voters to vote, hopefully multiple times, if that means their guy wins.
A pox on all your houses. When even a BASIC systematic function like "ID verification" becomes a Political football worth this type of fight.....the system isn't just broken, it's ass ****ed by a Donkey. A Pox.
And with respect, you may not care about the politics behind these investigations but that does not change the fact that politics is exactly what is driving this issue. If it benefited the Republicans to have the system remain status quo there would be zero investigations by their lawmakers, zero stories on their personal mega phones (murdoch owned media outlets) and zero threads posted here by the committed far-right.
Case in point; how many threads were started by conservative posters here relating to fiscal responsibility prior to 2008?
Agreed. Should NOT have rammed trhough for THIS election, but passed to take effect the day after Obama/Romney.it goes through a measurable trial period
Meh, States rights..... But I'd accept it at Federal tbh, if passed/done correctly.is federally instituted
Fully agreed.and is free or inexpensive and easy to obtain.
Meh, States rights..... But I'd accept it at Federal tbh, if passed/done correctly.
My only reason for this is I don't know if I like the idea of potentially having 50 different sets of rules for federal elections. If it were only for state elections then I think each state could do what they want.
I also think a federal ID would be better suited to handle the issue of voting in two states where you have property.
I also think you can't address ID without addressing absentee ballots. To me that is being penny-wise and dollar foolish
it stinks of politics, not of a real desire to curb voter fraud.Agreed. Should NOT have rammed trhough for THIS election, but passed to take effect the day after Obama/Romney.
Where there's smoke, there's fire.