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    The Republicans will massacre each other after Mitt Romney loses

    This week it was announced that Mormon supporters of Mitt Romney are promoting a day of mass fasting and prayer to seek divine help for the Republican candidate in the upcoming Presidential debates. He’ll need it.
    The question is no longer whether Mitt Romney loses the election. The really interesting conundrum is: what will happen to the Republican party when he does?

    When Barack Obama’s reelection is confirmed – at an increasingly early hour – on the night of 6 November, it will mean the GOP has managed to secure a popular majority only once in the past quarter of a century. When the Democrats had a similarly disastrous run from 1968 until 1992 they were seen to be flirting with extinction.

    Let’s glance a little deeper into the crystal ball. This election was held against the backdrop of a struggling economy. None of the predictions I have seen suggest the global or US economy is likely to still be teetering on the edge of recession in four years' time. Which means that the next Republican candidate is probably going to have to try wresting the White House from the grip of a Democratic party that can point to a strong and sustained record of growth. Given Mitt Romney’s abject failure to capitalise on an economic downturn, how confident are Republicans that their next candidate will prevail when it really is morning again in America?

    Peer deeper. If the Republicans were to lose in 2016, they then face the challenge of defeating an incumbent in 2020. By that point no sitting president would have been unseated for the best part of 40 years. Even George W Bush managed to hang on in there. If they can’t defy history, then by 2024 the Republicans will have won the popular vote once in eight elections. At that point they’re not in a political hole: they’re a Saturday Night Live punchline. Or even more of a punchline than usual.

    OK, that’s a lot of misfortune-telling. But don’t underestimate the extent of the shock wave this defeat is going to send through Republican ranks.
    For one thing, they’re not just going to lose the presidency: it looks like they’re going to lose the Senate as well. The nonpartisan Cook Political Report gives the GOP a 45 per cent chance of retaking the Senate, after reporting it at a 65-70 per cent chance at the beginning of the campaign.

    In fact, Republican officials are becoming so worried at what’s happening to their Senate that there are rumours that they’re about to start pulling money and resources from Mitt Romney’s floundering campaign and sending it “down the ticket”.

    Make no mistake, Romney is being lined up as the fall guy for this fiasco. And that in turn will create a round of internal bloodletting not seen since St Valentine's Day, 1929.

    Incredible as it may seem to most outside observers, Mitt Romney is actually what currently passes for a moderate in today’s Republican Party. Remember, this is a man who had to overcome front-runners including Newt Gingrich, who wanted to build a permanent colony on the moon; Herman Cain, who ran a campaign ad depicting a farmer being eaten alive by his own chickens, and Michelle Bachman, who said Hurricane Irene, which killed 26 people, was God’s way of getting the politicians' attention.

    Romney was sold – in the teeth of opposition from a significant section of the Republican grass roots – as the pragmatic choice, the compromise they had to make with ideology to secure victory. And when he loses, those activists are going to go as vengefully crazy as Cain’s Rhode Island Reds.

    Anyone who doubts the reaction of the GOP stalwarts to Romney’s impending defeat should bear in mind this single, if chilling, fact. Most of them still think he’s going to win. They genuinely believe the polls are fixed. They seriously think the surge in support for Obama is nothing more than an "MSM" conspiracy. Some of them clearly even believe the good Lord himself will appear in the spin room at the University of Denver next Wednesday.

    And when non of these things turn out to be true, the reaction will be truly terrible to behold. It will be like what happens inside one of those doomsday cults the morning after they all wake up and realise the world hasn’t ended after all. First the shock, then the denial, then finally the anger and retribution.

    The pinko, Marxist, Obama-loving side of me can’t wait for the fireworks to begin. But there’s another part of me that’s quite disheartened at the thought of the last few moderate elements of a once great political party vanishing beneath a tidal wave of post-election Tea Party hysteria. The majesty of Lincoln, boundless optimism of Reagan, dignity of McCain – swept from the pages of history by a bunch of moon-colonising, carnivorous chicken-touting, hurricane-summoning fruit loops.

    The last thing America and the world needs is President Romney. But when his final election poster has been consigned to the dustbin, America and the world are still going to need a sane and electable Republican party. Sadly, I suspect we won’t be getting one of those for some time.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/da...-romney-loses/


    Foreign nations can see the handwriting on the wall. When was the last time anyone here saw a story where Romney wins? It's going to be very ugly for the r's.

    They are just so extreme that they cannot sustain themselves. Just continue to deny the unreasonable thoughts and policies.......

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    None of the predictions I have seen suggest the global or US economy is likely to still be teetering on the edge of recession in four years' time. Which means that the next Republican candidate is probably going to have to try wresting the White House from the grip of a Democratic party that can point to a strong and sustained record of growth.
    That's an interesting piece - however pointing to the demise of the Republican Party before the election is run and done is perhaps a tad premature. The potshots at the extreme wing of the party are probably warranted.

    However, I, for one have an issue with the quote above; I'm predicting the global and US economy still likely to be teetering on the edge of the financial precipice in four years time - or more likely an even worse outcome. Whoever wins this time around won't be a shoe in for next time around IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soberphobia View Post
    That's an interesting piece - however pointing to the demise of the Republican Party before the election is run and done is perhaps a tad premature. The potshots at the extreme wing of the party are probably warranted.

    However, I, for one have an issue with the quote above; I'm predicting the global and US economy still likely to be teetering on the edge of the financial precipice in four years time - or more likely an even worse outcome. Whoever wins this time around won't be a shoe in for next time around IMO.
    I took it as the demise of the Rove Republicans, but I could be wrong. As for the economy, if congress does not work together we could very well be in dire straits.

    QE 3 (ugh) will help the banks and Wall St, but not the general public.

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    The Republican Party is not going anywhere. My hope is they start to take more moderate, common sense positions.

    Fiscally conservative
    Socially liberal
    Pro-science

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetdawgg View Post
    I took it as the demise of the Rove Republicans, but I could be wrong. As for the economy, if congress does not work together we could very well be in dire straits.

    QE 3 (ugh) will help the banks and Wall St, but not the general public.
    The issue is for me economically is the debt, obviously mainly public debt - that's not going away anytime soon unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soberphobia View Post
    The issue is for me economically is the debt, obviously mainly public debt - that's not going away anytime soon unfortunately.
    Me too. This is extremely important and QE 3 adds more to what is already an outrageous amount. Unpaid for tax cuts and wars don't help us with this issue.

    I do see a change in the American voting populace. Now if we only vote in those that decide to make the changes....

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    Quote Originally Posted by parafly View Post
    The Republican Party is not going anywhere. My hope is they start to take more moderate, common sense positions.

    Fiscally conservative
    Socially liberal
    Pro-science
    It's the neocons that will finally go away.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by parafly View Post
    The Republican Party is not going anywhere. My hope is they start to take more moderate, common sense positions.

    Fiscally conservative
    Socially liberal
    Pro-science
    I would absolutely LOVE for this to happen. THAT would be a party I could get behind.

    sadly, unless someone can rescue the party from those who think a political party should adhere to religious doctrine, it ain't neve gonna happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2® View Post
    I would absolutely LOVE for this to happen. THAT would be a party I could get behind.

    sadly, unless someone can rescue the party from those who think a political party should adhere to religious doctrine, it ain't neve gonna happen.
    Or maybe even accept people of other religions/beliefs

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    That will be great for the Obamanomics but the country will crash and the moochers will have to get a job. No more free cellphones to the porker in Cleveland!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetdawgg View Post
    I took it as the demise of the Rove Republicans, but I could be wrong. As for the economy, if congress does not work together we could very well be in dire straits.

    QE 3 (ugh) will help the banks and Wall St, but not the general public.
    You can count your chickens with the best of Jet fans, Jetdawgg. I'll give you that.

    Obama has not flipped a single McCain voter, Republican voters are more enthused than they were in '08 and more enthused than the Democratic voters; and despite ultra tight national polls, conventional wisdom points to swing state polls where Obama sports numerical spikes that defy any precedence. (Despite four horrendous economic years he's more popular than he was 4 years ago in the nine necessary states? Really?)

    And now we're going to see 4 heavily watched debates where he and Biden have to defend a Carter-like performance with very little media help to soften the blows.

    Obama is going down hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sackdance View Post
    You can count your chickens with the best of Jet fans, Jetdawgg. I'll give you that.

    Obama has not flipped a single McCain voter, Republican voters are more enthused than they were in '08 and more enthused than the Democratic voters; and despite ultra tight national polls, conventional wisdom points to swing state polls where Obama sports numerical spikes that defy any precedence. (Despite four horrendous economic years he's more popular than he was 4 years ago in the nine necessary states? Really?)

    And now we're going to see 4 heavily watched debates where he and Biden have to defend a Carter-like performance with very little media help to soften the blows.

    Obama is going down hard.
    Have you talked with any Ron Paul supporters? A great deal will not show up to vote for Romney. Instead of embracing Ron Paul and his supporters the neo cons put even more distance between them.

    Just how smart was that? Keep dividing the people and expect to win. What kind of strategy is that?

    Just another bumbling fumble by this camPAIN.

    And no, I am not counting my chickens.....I am voting

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    Quote Originally Posted by sackdance View Post

    Obama is going down hard.
    I'm sure you said this four years ago.

    There's just something unlikeable about Wilbert. It shouldn't really matter, Europeans (look at France and Italy) elect dicks all the time because they think they'll be effective. Wilfred is the stereotypical rich stiff villain you see in movies who gets azz raped in prison, and the crowd laughs. Obama will be cool and collected while Wilmont implodes, giving off that bad vibe. Three debates will finish him off.
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    It's just the media doing their job trying to steer the election. Tell all the Reps, it's over, no need in inconveniencing yourselves by going to vote. If they can keep a couple hundred R voters at home they feel they've done their job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy® View Post
    I'm sure you said this four years ago.
    No. I wished it, but in '08 I liked Romney best (again, a hands on founder of Bain Capital is a more impressive display of competence and vision to me than anything in either party - and Romney was on point when talking about - tada! - the economy during the '08 GOP primary) yet was an "anybody but McCain" for the nod - after that I just hoped McCain would win.

    But the Democratic win was in the books a year out.

    And this dead horse economy? Despite the media working overtime to anoint Obama 2.0 - it's not changed at all and history says the voters are going to vote for the guy they trust with it, Mitt Romney. This should be crystal clear after a debate or two.

    Polls and popularity contests are nice, though. So enjoy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmy® View Post
    I'm sure you said this four years ago.

    There's just something unlikeable about Wilbert. It shouldn't really matter, Europeans (look at France and Italy) elect dicks all the time because they think they'll be effective. Wilfred is the stereotypical rich stiff villain you see in movies who gets azz raped in prison, and the crowd laughs. Obama will be cool and collected while Wilmont implodes, giving off that bad vibe. Three debates will finish him off.
    No doubt that was the same lib "crowd" that just laughed when a stereotypical US ambassador got azz raped AND murdered in Libya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetdawgg View Post
    Have you talked with any Ron Paul supporters? A great deal will not show up to vote for Romney. Instead of embracing Ron Paul and his supporters the neo cons put even more distance between them.

    Just how smart was that? Keep dividing the people and expect to win. What kind of strategy is that?

    Just another bumbling fumble by this camPAIN.

    And no, I am not counting my chickens.....I am voting
    Im an R. I support Dr Paul. I will either write in Ron in November or.if that is not an option in my State I will submit a blank ballot.

    No way can I vote for the flipflopping Mormon founding father of the Individual Mandate health care TAX.

    We had our chance to beat Obama but foolishly rejected Dr Ron Paul for an unelectable unprincipled EMPTY SUIT

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    Quote Originally Posted by parafly View Post
    The Republican Party is not going anywhere. My hope is they start to take more moderate, common sense positions.

    Fiscally conservative
    Socially liberal
    Pro-science
    That's what I had hoped the tea party would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sg3 View Post
    Im an R. I support Dr Paul. I will either write in Ron in November or.if that is not an option in my State I will submit a blank ballot.

    No way can I vote for the flipflopping Mormon founding father of the Individual Mandate health care TAX.

    We had our chance to beat Obama but foolishly rejected Dr Ron Paul for an unelectable unprincipled EMPTY SUIT

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    Shows everyone here that there is only 1 party. How can any party come up with such lame candidates for highest office in the USA two elections in a row?

    This time from the other side?

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    Communists/Socialists Declare Capitalists/Corporatists Dead and Done, and a Golden Era of Communist/Socialist victories to come, eh?

    Nice to see some things never change.

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