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    The problems in New England*

    This discussion must begin with the acknowledgement that the combination of Belichick and Brady has been one of the most successful coach-qb tandem's the league has ever seen. Brady's accuracy and determination combined with Belichick's wisdom (yeah, I said it) has notched win after win while piling up the offensive stats.

    But at the same time, the second thing all must acknowledge in any discussion of the Patriots is the tainted legacy. Three super bowl victories that became asterisks if not question marks after arrogance was left unchecked, with major breakdowns in every season since Belichick went too far.

    The simple facts are that procedures were used in New England that were found to be against the rules, and the team and coach were fined heavily for employing them. And now comes a new chapter that must raise eyebrows, especially now that the man who was quoted as saying "cheating was practiced and coached" there has again assumed the reins of the offense.

    An recent article on Boston.com let slip a very telling comment from safety Tavon Wilson:
    The Patriots’ defenders, especially the linebackers and “money” player Tavon Wilson, have been given keys to the Bills’ plays by the coaching staff. “If player X does this, then look for this.”

    http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal..._at_bil_1.html

    Sure, it's possible to interpret this comment as the NE coaching staff picking up on "tells" or other cues they've noticed on tapes. After three games...
    But it strikes me as emblematic of the overall philosophy in New England that has prevented them from achieving un-tainted glory. Win at all costs? When you spend your time building a foundation on sand, eventually it crumbles away. It is not easy building the solid granite that leads to success in the NFL, but relying on tips, cheats and tricks will ultimately expose you for what you are - a trick pony in a race with thoroughbreds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiseOldWalt View Post
    This discussion must begin with the acknowledgement that the combination of Belichick and Brady has been one of the most successful coach-qb tandem's the league has ever seen. Brady's accuracy and determination combined with Belichick's wisdom (yeah, I said it) has notched win after win while piling up the offensive stats.

    But at the same time, the second thing all must acknowledge in any discussion of the Patriots is the tainted legacy. Three super bowl victories that became asterisks if not question marks after arrogance was left unchecked, with major breakdowns in every season since Belichick went too far.

    The simple facts are that procedures were used in New England that were found to be against the rules, and the team and coach were fined heavily for employing them. And now comes a new chapter that must raise eyebrows, especially now that the man who was quoted as saying "cheating was practiced and coached" there has again assumed the reins of the offense.

    An recent article on Boston.com let slip a very telling comment from safety Tavon Wilson:
    The Patriots’ defenders, especially the linebackers and “money” player Tavon Wilson, have been given keys to the Bills’ plays by the coaching staff. “If player X does this, then look for this.”

    http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal..._at_bil_1.html

    Sure, it's possible to interpret this comment as the NE coaching staff picking up on "tells" or other cues they've noticed on tapes. After three games...
    But it strikes me as emblematic of the overall philosophy in New England that has prevented them from achieving un-tainted glory. Win at all costs? When you spend your time building a foundation on sand, eventually it crumbles away. It is not easy building the solid granite that leads to success in the NFL, but relying on tips, cheats and tricks will ultimately expose you for what you are - a trick pony in a race with thoroughbreds.

    LOL. What a crock of chit. Pats special ops know the plays when player X scratches his ass. Brilliant!

    The Jets DO have a game today right?

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    The time is right for the Jets to come in and take the division for a lot of years but down in Miami they have the same idea and I believe they are only a few players away from becoming very competitive. The Jets need more talent no argument there and need to release some of their has been players to get younger

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    The pig is ripe.

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    Yes, the sandy foundation upon which they've built 12 years of winning.

    It's one of the three strongest foundations in NFL history.


    Some of the posts on here are just so ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuidoYaztremski View Post
    LOL. What a crock of chit. Pats special ops know the plays when player X scratches his ass. Brilliant!

    The Jets DO have a game today right?
    You're the idiot on a Jets site when the Pasts have another game to lose today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB1089 View Post
    Yes, the sandy foundation upon which they've built 12 years of winning.

    It's one of the three strongest foundations in NFL history.


    Some of the posts on here are just so ridiculous.
    The foundation of Brady?

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    other than being a bunch of cheating arrogant **** faces that is

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiseOldWalt View Post
    This discussion must begin with the acknowledgement that the combination of Belichick and Brady has been one of the most successful coach-qb tandem's the league has ever seen. Brady's accuracy and determination combined with Belichick's wisdom (yeah, I said it) has notched win after win while piling up the offensive stats.

    But at the same time, the second thing all must acknowledge in any discussion of the Patriots is the tainted legacy. Three super bowl victories that became asterisks if not question marks after arrogance was left unchecked, with major breakdowns in every season since Belichick went too far.

    The simple facts are that procedures were used in New England that were found to be against the rules, and the team and coach were fined heavily for employing them. And now comes a new chapter that must raise eyebrows, especially now that the man who was quoted as saying "cheating was practiced and coached" there has again assumed the reins of the offense.

    An recent article on Boston.com let slip a very telling comment from safety Tavon Wilson:
    The Patriots’ defenders, especially the linebackers and “money” player Tavon Wilson, have been given keys to the Bills’ plays by the coaching staff. “If player X does this, then look for this.”

    http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal..._at_bil_1.html

    Sure, it's possible to interpret this comment as the NE coaching staff picking up on "tells" or other cues they've noticed on tapes. After three games...
    But it strikes me as emblematic of the overall philosophy in New England that has prevented them from achieving un-tainted glory. Win at all costs? When you spend your time building a foundation on sand, eventually it crumbles away. It is not easy building the solid granite that leads to success in the NFL, but relying on tips, cheats and tricks will ultimately expose you for what you are - a trick pony in a race with thoroughbreds.
    Does Wise Old Walt have Dimensia?

    Run your mouth all you choose about the Patsies, the fact is they will win the division AGAIN this season will no competition from the Jets. So I guess maybe from a Jets fans perspective the Patsies are a juggernaut and not so much of a one trick pony?

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    A pigeon took a chit in Harvard yard this morning...tipping off that the Pats will be leaning heavy on the running game today.

    You heard it here first!

    Actually second, the pigeon's ass told you first.

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    When Tebow picks his nose, it's a run to the left.

    True story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FF2® View Post
    When Tebow picks his nose, it's a run to the left.

    True story.
    Nosepicking is underrated. Fatboy.

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    AFC East looks wide open. Patriots offense and special teams continue to be atrocious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFCEastFan View Post
    AFC East looks wide open. Patriots offense and special teams continue to be atrocious.
    Yeah, good call AFCE.


    And to the OP, what was that problem with Pats again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuidoYaztremski View Post
    Yeah, good call AFCE.


    And to the OP, what was that problem with Pats again?

    You don't like reverse jinxes, Vinnie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFCEastFan View Post
    You don't like reverse jinxes, Vinnie?

    Faker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuidoYaztremski View Post
    Faker.
    Awww, poor Vinnie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFCEastFan View Post
    Awww, poor Vinnie.
    Nothing poor about me. The team I root for won decisively. The team you (secretly) root for put a goose egg on the board. No issues here. But don't try to back track on a bad post.


    You're better than that (says FF2).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetstream23 View Post
    A pigeon took a chit in Harvard yard this morning...tipping off that the Pats will be leaning heavy on the running game today.

    You heard it here first!

    Actually second, the pigeon's ass told you first.
    Two backs rushing for over a hundred yards each, so the tale of the pigeon poop appears accurate.

    Why can't I shake this image of Belichick up on his roof wearing his hoodie, and raising pigeons like Brando in On The Waterfront. I won't be able to shake this image from my dreams for weeks.

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    the Patriots should see what they have in Mallet, give him 12 weeks. this Brady guy clearly doesn't have it.


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