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    NY Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez hardly great in loss to 49ers, but all blame can't b

    From today's Daily News....

    In the end, the outcome of the Jetsí game against San Francisco had nothing to do with them missing their best defensive player, Darrelle Revis. As it always does with the Jets, it came down to what the quarterback did or didnít do.

    Mark Sanchez had two costly turnovers - an interception and a fumble. He didnít do anything to produce points.

    But the 34-0 whipping that the Niners administered at MetLife Stadium on Sunday canít be put solely on Sanchezís shoulders. That would be wrong. Sanchez didnít make this mess. Heís just caught in the middle of it, and he doesnít have the tools to dig the Jets out.

    The Jets unraveled with four turnovers and a lack of execution in all three phases. No NFL team is going to overcome that.

    The Jets were never in this game, despite being down just 10-0 at halftime. And when they lost receiver Santonio Holmes, their only game-breaker, to a foot injury in the fourth quarter their lack of talent was evident for all to see.

    With the loss of Revis and the potential loss of Holmes for a few games, the Jets donít have a leg to stand on - on either side of the ball.

    "Right now weíre not even close to being one of the better teams in the league," said Rex Ryan, who was seething after the game.

    The current state of the Jets and the lack of talent at the skill positions must be laid at the feet of Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum and his player personnel department. If you believe the Jets have the necessary talent to compete with the likes of San Francisco, then youíre deluding yourself. And if you want to remain delusional, then you have to say that the coaching staff canít put together a game plan to utilize the talent they have.

    Ryan said there needs to be some soul-searching among the players and coaches to determine just what kind of team the Jets will be. Thatís simple: not a playoff team.

    There will be calls for Tim Tebow to replace Sanchez at quarterback. That might feel good at the moment. Change for changeís sake. But Tebow would face the same thing that Sanchez is facing ó a supporting cast that offers little help.

    Ryan wasnít blinded by his anger. He can see that such a switch would be foolish at this point.

    "I donít think thatís the answer," Ryan said. "I think Mark is the answer at quarterback."

    You look at the stat line, it says Sanchez is a lousy quarterback. He was 13-of-29 for 103 yards, had an interception, lost a fumble and didnít have a drive into the red zone. You look at the wreckage that is the Jets offense and you wonder just how Sanchez, a quarterback who was good enough to help get the Jets to two AFC title games in his first two seasons, could have fallen this far this fast.

    It has less to do with an erosion of Sanchezís skills than it does the way the Jets have undermined him. While other teams have supported their young quarterbacks with weapons and confidence, the Jets have taken an opposite approach with Sanchez.

    They have allowed the talent around him to slowly erode, saddling him with a running game that is subpar, an offensive line that is inadequate and just one quality NFL-caliber receiver in Holmes. And oh, donít forget they brought in the most popular backup QB in the history of the NFL to play tricks with his mind.

    And with all that, they have the nerve to slap a tag of "Ground and Pound" on how they view their offense. Disgraceful.

    Sanchez went far in the playoffs with the likes of Thomas Jones, Tony Richardson, Leon Washington and LaDainian Tomlinson in the backfield.

    Heís had Braylon Edwards, Jerricho Cotchery and Plaxico Burress running pass routes.

    Compare those guys to what they have now.

    The addition of Tebow as a backup, which was supposed to light a fire under Sanchez and give the Jets an element of surprise on offense, hasnít done anything other than demonstrate a lack of confidence in Sanchez.

    You look at how Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco has progressed from an offensive caretaker on a defense-dominated team in Baltimore to a legitimate big-game passer with a power runner in Ray Rice.

    Sanchez has nothing remotely close to Rice.

    Instead, you have Sanchez standing at a podium in the bowels of MetLife Stadium for the 1,000th time, saying that it all starts with him and heís got to improve and blah, blah, blah.

    Instead Sanchez should be standing there saying, "A little help here, please!"

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...#ixzz2844wWEIz

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    Wow media supporting Sanchez! Love the last line.

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    I think the fair conclusion is that there are many problems on this team and that Sanchez is one of them. Sanchez is all but done as a franchise QB. He'll be trotted out there for the remaining games of the season, but he's absolutely toast. Mediocrity at WR and RB are also major problems. Watch the Jets pursue a new QB in the draft. They'll have a high enough pick to do it.

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    Outside of the media talking heads, is there any serious calls for Tebow to replace Sanchez? I have not heard anyone say it.

    For those at the stadium yesterday, were there chants of Tebow?

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    Bull, more excuses for Sanchez. More bull. Right now he is the worst QB in the league. The Jets screwed up badly when they messed with the Wr group laat year. Talent is not great but his many many grievous errors have little to do with talent a lot of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    Bull, more excuses for Sanchez. More bull. Right now he is the worst QB in the league. The Jets screwed up badly when they messed with the Wr group laat year. Talent is not great but his many many grievous errors have little to do with talent a lot of the time.
    This. He has been making poor throws, and a different set of WRs doesn't change that. Gonna look at the 22-tape, but I doubt it shows much different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerfish View Post
    Bull, more excuses for Sanchez. More bull. Right now he is the worst QB in the league. The Jets screwed up badly when they messed with the Wr group laat year. Talent is not great but his many many grievous errors have little to do with talent a lot of the time.
    I keep arguing this with my friend who is a huge Sanchez supporter. Both turnovers yesterday were not the result of us having a lousy WR group, they were mental errors by Sanchez on plays that should have been throwaways. The first one the Niners get some good pressure which forces Mark to scramble. At this point internal clock should kick in, at the very least he should tuck the ball and just try to pick up whatever yards he can get with his legs. Instead he keeps trying to extend play, but he is not Aaron Rodgers, he is not going to magically turn this busted play into a TD pass. And he's waving the ball out for anyone to strip it. Result is game-changing fumble.

    Second turnover, you have to expect pressure on a screen pass, the whole point is to let the D run by the line to clear space for the RB. Mark got the pressure but didn't loft the ball over it. If he felt the pressure was too much, he should have just thrown it at Greene's feet. Dumb decision leads to a turnover. An athletic front 7 like SF has can turn a weak throw there into an INT. Maybe you get away with it against a bad D. You have to know the opponent.

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    A poor supporting cast didn't miss a wide open Santonio Holmes in the end zone against Pitt.
    A poor supporting cast didn't miss a wide open Chaz Schilens in the end zone against Miami.
    A poor supporting cast didn't throw two hospital passes back-to-back, fumble away the team's best scoring opportunity, and throw another (another!) INT on a screen pass against San Fran.

    We know the Jets are not strong at the skill positions. But that doesn't absolve Sanchez from his decision-making and overall accuracy. If he's hitting the easy throws and making good decisions regularly, then this article has merit. But he's not.

    There was a 3rd-down play yesterday where Santonio was going to be open on a 15-yard out. Sanchez had great protection, but rushed the throw and chucked it 10 yards over Holmes' head. Unless Dwight Howard is going to change sports and sign with the Jets, what difference is a better receiver corps going to make?

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    [QUOTE=rmeyer52;4624673]From today's Daily News....

    The Jets unraveled with four turnovers and a lack of execution in all three phases. No NFL team is going to overcome that.

    2 by Mark, both when they were driving down the field. How many games have you seen Sanchez just give the other team points? I've lost count.

    The current state of the Jets and the lack of talent at the skill positions must be laid at the feet of Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum and his player personnel department. If you believe the Jets have the necessary talent to compete with the likes of San Francisco, then you’re deluding yourself. And if you want to remain delusional, then you have to say that the coaching staff can’t put together a game plan to utilize the talent they have.

    Not arguing with this but the 5th overall pick in the 1st round, you kind of expect a QB that elevates the play of people around him. Who wants a QB who has a ceiling of average when he does have talented players around him?

    It has less to do with an erosion of Sanchez’s skills than it does the way the Jets have undermined him. While other teams have supported their young quarterbacks with weapons and confidence, the Jets have taken an opposite approach with Sanchez.

    Hey guess what, Sanchez was given the job. No competition what so ever for 3 years. Despite multiple horrendous performances Ryan still is behind Sanchez. How much more "confidence" from the Jets does he need? He's finally challenged for his starting spot and he crumbles.

    Sanchez is the QB version of Shonn Greene. Riding off "pretty good" performances in the playoffs. He's the biggest thief since Vernon Gholston.

    Someone post that .gif of the disappointed Jets fans when Sanchez was drafted. They were right all along.
    Last edited by bobby2times; 10-01-2012 at 03:50 PM.

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    Bull effing S**t

    This loss is 100% on Sanchez. This game was 7-0 with 1:30 to go in the first half, with us in possession, deep in SF territory going for a half ending FG when he fumbled trying to do too much as he always has in the past, instead of just throwing the ball out of bounds like a real QB would have. Then on the next posession to start the second half, we had Shonn Green wide open and Sanchez could not complete a screen pass to a wide open RB.
    He made a lazy incompetent throw that was picked off by Pat Willis and it was, for all intensive purposes, lights out right there.

    Sanchez is not an NFL QB. He belongs on TV as a pretty boy actor or model, but not on an NFL roster as a starting QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASH_1962 View Post
    Bull effing S**t

    This loss is 100% on Sanchez. This game was 7-0 with 1:30 to go in the first half, with us in possession, deep in SF territory going for a half ending FG when he fumbled trying to do too much as he always has in the past, instead of just throwing the ball out of bounds like a real QB would have. Then on the next posession to start the second half, we had Shonn Green wide open and Sanchez could not complete a screen pass to a wide open RB.
    He made a lazy incompetent throw that was picked off by Pat Willis and it was, for all intensive purposes, lights out right there.

    Sanchez is not an NFL QB. He belongs on TV as a pretty boy actor or model, but not on an NFL roster as a starting QB.
    it's not all on sanchez, but he's the main reason. hasn't learned a thing since his rookie year about protecting the ball when there's pressure. he didn't have the presense of mind to know that a fg was more important than trying to make the miracle play. has no feel for the game or the circumstances in year 4. should not be the starting qb. good qbs would make more of the minimal weapons this team fields.

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