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    Conor Orr: Jets can't run from the truth, ground game coming up empty

    October 02, 2012 at 10:01 PM

    Jets offensive lineman Brandon Moore was up late Sunday night and couldn’t fall back asleep. He decided to pull out his computer and access the game film from that afternoon and watch as the Jets netted just 45 rushing yards on 17 carries in a 34-0 loss to the 49ers.

    It was the Jets’ third consecutive game of less than 100 yards on the ground and the catalyst for another drop in the league’s rushing rankings. The Jets are 30th in the NFL in yards per carry (3.2) and 24th in yards per game (86.5).

    Unfortunately, Moore admitted, he did not learn anything new from the late-night cram session.

    “It’s just the same things,” Moore said Monday. “When you look back at other games and you don’t run the ball well and some things come up, it’s just a matter of execution.

    “It’s a matter of us staying on our blocks longer, finishing guys, running backs knowing where to go and making the right reads and making plays. It just goes back to us being able to do these things in practice.”

    The Jets (2-2) are looking for solutions this week as they prepare to play host to the powerful Houston Texans (4-0) Monday night.

    A strong running game has been a hallmark in the careers of coach Rex Ryan and offensive coordinator Tony Sparano. It sets up the passing game and opens up the playbook. It also gives quarterback Mark Sanchez relief from a relentless rush and helps the Jets maintain possession (they are holding the ball an average of 28:17 per game, ranked 26th in the NFL).

    Ryan challenged his offensive line and running backs Monday after seeing the same thing Moore saw.

    “That didn’t happen (Sunday) to my satisfaction and to anybody’s satisfaction, including (the offensive line),” Ryan said of the rushing performance. “I’m sure they’ll be the first to tell you that we have to do a better job up front.”

    To assist in that department, the Jets added hybrid running back/fullback Lex Hilliard to the active roster today, possibly as a stop-gap solution if fullback John Conner’s strained hamstring is serious. Wide receiver Patrick Turner was cut in a corresponding move.

    In addition, receiver Jordan White was re-signed to the practice squad and defensive back Donnie Fletcher was released.

    As Ryan huddled with his coaches over the past two days, he was looking for an answer. He would not address whether that meant more playing time for backup QB Tim Tebow — the Broncos had less than 150 rushing yards just once last season when he was their starting quarterback.

    Running back Bilal Powell was in on the game’s first play and took a majority of the snaps — 32 to Shonn Greene’s 18.

    The Jets now await a new game plan. Ryan said they needed to have an answer ready.

    Moore, after watching the film, thinks he already knows.

    “There’s no other answer to it,” Moore said. “There’s no magic solution that’s going to make everything click. It’s just a matter of the execution portion of it.”

    Notes: Despite a report suggesting wide receiver Santonio Holmes will be sidelined for the remainder of the season with a foot injury, the Jets said the team would have no official update on his condition tonight.

    Holmes was most recently having his MRI results reviewed by a specialist in North Carolina.

    Though the Jets defense gave up 245 yards on the ground against the 49ers, defensive end Mike DeVito is not yet sounding the alarm.

    “I know it seems like the end of the world,” DeVito said today on WFAN radio. “But we’re still in first place in the division. We still can come back from this, but we need to get this fixed fast.

    “We just haven’t been able to put together the defense we had in training camp,” DeVito said. “We haven’t been able to get back to that.”

    http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/201...l#incart_river

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    i wanna see more of joe mcknight at rb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nike View Post
    i wanna see more of joe mcknight at rb.
    I wanna see more of him and anyone else not named Shonn Greene.

    I'm not sure what it will take, to be honest. They hitched their wagon to the wrong horse and now they are compounding the problem by stubbornly refusing to make a change.

    It's puzzling to say the least.

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    maybe when they sucked the fat out of rex they took some of his brains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nike View Post
    i wanna see more of joe mcknight at rb.
    that and more cowbell...

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    do you know who was ranked 1st, 3rd and 8th in rush defense last season? SF, MIA and PITT. Do you know who ranks 1st, 5th and 15th in rush D this season? That's right, MIA, SF and PITT. These are no slouch run defenses. Don't think the writer of the article mentions this.

    MIA held Foster to 3 ypc and McFadden to 22 yards. SF held Adrian Peterson to 3.4 yards per carry. After an early 64 yard TD run, the Steelers held McFadden to 49 yards on 17 carries. The writer of the article definitely doesn't mention this.

    We know Shonn Greene is not in this tier of backs, so why would we expect productive games? This opening schedule would be a killer for the best running team in the league.

    It was this time last season when the running game picked up. who knows, maybe it'll happen again
    Last edited by BamaJets; 10-03-2012 at 09:33 AM.

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    quote from Brandon Moore - "running backs knowing where to go and making the right reads and making plays."


    That's a comment on Greene's tendency to do nothing but run into the back of the OL and fall down after 2 yards. Even his own teammates think Greene sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lageman4ever View Post
    quote from Brandon Moore - "running backs knowing where to go and making the right reads and making plays."


    That's a comment on Greene's tendency to do nothing but run into the back of the OL and fall down after 2 yards. Even his own teammates think Greene sucks.
    I caught that too..Not to defend Greene but I think part (or most) of Greene's struggles this year is the new scheme from zone blocking to Sparano's new gap scheme...Possibly the OL too

    Greene is used to zone blocking..Iowa also ran zone blocking..JMO


    After being a primarily zone-running team with Brian Schottenheimer and Bill Callahan, Sparano is putting a greater emphasis on gap-scheme plays. He wants the Jets to thrive as a power running team, with the offensive linemen knocking defenders off the ball and the running backs plowing straight ahead at a designated gap.

    Zone runs ask the offensive linemen to move laterally, as the back reacts to the defense and chooses a crease among a few different reads. Gap-scheme plays, on the other hand, rely on the linemen driving back defenders and creating vertical push up the field, while the back takes off toward a single spot.

    There are benefits to both. But Sparano believes the gap-scheme plays best accompany his decree to be physical, by giving his linemen double teams at the point of attack and creating better angles and leverage against the defensive front. Zone plays, he explained, can sometimes isolate players in difficult one-on-one blocking situations.

    Sparano, a former offensive line coach, said his plan has been to create a system that fits the personnel, both on the line and in the backfield.
    Greene has fared well in zone schemes in college and his first three NFL seasons, but the 226-pound power back is no doubt well-suited for downhill, between-the tackles gap-scheme runs. Look for a lot of powers, counters and traps, Lynn said.

    “Shonn can run through the smoke,” Sparano said, using a favorite expression of his. “He is a guy who can get square, and he can make a hole. And when it looks muddy in there, he can run through it and all of a sudden create 3, 4 yards going forward. He is built right for that style of football.”

    http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/201...n_to_grou.html

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